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The Jesus Seminar Takes on Paul
NC Register ^ | June 7, 2010 | Matthew Archbold

Posted on 06/07/2010 10:18:21 AM PDT by NYer

Remember the Jesus Seminar? They were those scholars who voted away all of Jesus’ miracles and much of what He said because it didn’t seem plausible to them. You know, things like the resurrection and that kind of weird stuff. They voted on whether they thought Jesus REALLY said that or did that. Pretty much, miracles and all that oogedy-boogedy stuff were scorned.

One of the more well known books coming out of the seminar was the infamously color-coded “The Five Gospels,” which had its own translations of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John from the New Testament but they also threw in the Gospel of Thomas for good measure. Jesus’ sayings appeared in red ink if the seminar deemed them historically reliable, pink if they were maybe a teensy bit reliable, gray if they were possible but pretty darned unreliable and black if they were improbable. Members of the Jesus Seminar used colored beads to vote on which kind of font would be used.

You might remember it was kind of a big deal for a while but year after year of demoting Jesus to a hippie from the Mideast only gets so much press nowadays as much of their “scholarship” has sadly seeped into the mainstream and they’re just not as radical or press worthy as they once were. So while bashing Jesus is so 90’s some of the Jesus Seminar folks have something new planned.

I don’t know if those folks are planning on getting their beads out again to vote on what Paul actually said and did, but according to Oregon Live Polebridge Press will be publishing “The Authentic Letters of Paul,” an original translation of some of Paul’s letters.

I’m thinking that Paul had a horse will get a pink text but falling off his horse on the road to Damascus will be downright gray and pretty much everything else that happened on the road to Damascus will get big fat black printing.

According to the website of Willamette University -the home of the seminar, the book claims that Paul did not write all the letters attributed to him in the New Testament.

I’m also thinking that all those things that Paul said about homosexuality might not make it to pink, never mind red.

You know, in the Bible there were those who walked away from Jesus saying “these teachings are too hard.” But somehow I think that’s better than those who pretend to stay and say, “Oh that’s not what Jesus really meant. Here’s what he really really meant.”

Those who hear but cannot accept still have a chance. Those who wont hear may be lost.


TOPICS: Activism; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; liberaltheology; scripture
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1 posted on 06/07/2010 10:18:21 AM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...
The Jesus Seminar is a group of about 150 individuals, including scholars with advanced degrees in biblical studies, religious studies or related fields.

IMHO, the higher the degree the greater the possibility they will consider themselves more knowledgeable than Jesus.

2 posted on 06/07/2010 10:22:06 AM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

Something about “professing to be wise, they became fools”


3 posted on 06/07/2010 10:24:19 AM PDT by dartuser ("Palin 2012 ... nothing else will do.")
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To: NYer

“the higher the degree the greater the possibility they will consider themselves more knowledgeable than Jesus.”

Last I heard, Jesus didn’t even graduate from eighth grade...


4 posted on 06/07/2010 10:25:08 AM PDT by DrC
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To: NYer

I remember these guys and their color-coded Bible. Not sure what to think of them other than they’re nuts.


5 posted on 06/07/2010 10:25:32 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: NYer

The whole universe isn’t probable.


6 posted on 06/07/2010 10:27:05 AM PDT by ex-snook ("You will know they are Christians by their love.")
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To: NYer

The higher the degree, the greater chance they have of thinking they are god...


7 posted on 06/07/2010 10:28:07 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: NYer

Apostates, heretics, and the spirit of anti-Christ.


8 posted on 06/07/2010 10:35:13 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: ex-snook

“The whole universe isn’t probable.”

Well said.


9 posted on 06/07/2010 10:37:04 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: scripter

remember these guys and their color-coded Bible. Not sure what to think of them other than they’re nuts.

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They’re not nuts...they’re just laying the groundwork for Anti-Christ.


10 posted on 06/07/2010 10:44:37 AM PDT by pgkdan (I Miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: NYer

I only scanned the article....imho they sound like a bunch of dumb asses.


11 posted on 06/07/2010 10:48:28 AM PDT by gitmogrunt
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To: pgkdan
The Jesus Seminar Takes on Paul

As Paul said to the circumcisers, "Hey, why don't you just whack the whole thing off?" I've got to wonder about folks who seem so intent on cutting out the entire historical ground of their faith.

I'm looking forward to getting the books about Paul by N.T. Wright, who wrote the stupendous Resurrection of the Son of God (Christian Origins and the Question of God, Vol. 3.
12 posted on 06/07/2010 10:55:18 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: NYer

bttt

Basic Issues in Defense of the Authenticity of the Gospels
http://www.tektonics.org/ntdocdef/gospdefhub.html

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Presuppositions and Pretensions of the Jesus Seminar
http://www.leaderu.com/offices/billcraig/docs/rediscover1.html

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The Jesus Seminar and the social sciences
http://www.tektonics.org/qt/talkinhead.html


13 posted on 06/07/2010 10:56:14 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("If Obama Won, Then Why Won't Democrats Run on His Agenda?" ~ Rush Limbaugh - May 19, 2010)
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To: NYer
GREAT POST --

These "Jesus Seminar" guys break me up...

Using totally absurd set of impositions and false assumptions...

They argue more about "the rules" for evaluating contemporaneous writings and literature --- than application of Biblical truths....

By the time they are finished with each session...

Our Lord and Savior -- resembles a middle-aged 20th century theology major with a major infusion of smooth "California Cool"....

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The same thing happened in 19th century Western europe...
Their version of the "seminar" made Christ look like a beneficent, kind-faced, perfectly polite & impossible-to-crucify German theologian...

Until the good Dr. Schweitzer took them on...

All their similar and irrelevant silly historiographic assumptions were blown away in short order.

Just my humble opinion...

14 posted on 06/07/2010 10:59:40 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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These people are presuppositions wrapped in skin.

As useful as staph in a surgical ward.

I want to know who is funding this grand display of ignorance.


15 posted on 06/07/2010 11:02:01 AM PDT by lurk
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To: lurk

I want to know how they are going to look/feel when they do meet Christ and have to realize how ignorant (at the least) and how remarkably foolish they are. Christ being the Son of God is most likely to carry the ultimate authority...however- each to their own.


16 posted on 06/07/2010 11:08:52 AM PDT by handmade
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To: NYer

Let’s just get to the really important question: How can environmentalism be fitted into Paul’s words. The “Great Minds” are working on it, I’m sure.


17 posted on 06/07/2010 11:29:26 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: ex-snook

Great words


18 posted on 06/07/2010 11:31:50 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Yep


19 posted on 06/07/2010 11:34:26 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: NYer

Paul’s horse? Is that that the one named Isme? Paul did say, “Whoa, Isme!” didn’t he?


20 posted on 06/07/2010 11:38:21 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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