Posted on 05/31/2010 4:54:56 AM PDT by CalvaryJohn
Here’s a snippet from Glenn Beck’s radio show 5/27/10 – this one clip should eternally disqualify Glenn Beck as a commentator on religion in the eyes of all informed listeners:
Here is a transcript provided by RazorKiss that starts at about 38 seconds into the clip (link):
Glenn: “…the Dead Sea Scrolls, you know what they are? Stu, do you know what the Dead Sea Scrolls are? Stu: Well, of course I do… Glenn: Now, c’mon, most people don’t. Stu: Well, I heard of them, I don’t really know Glenn: You don’t really know. You have no idea why they were there. Sara average person doesn’t know. Any idea, take a guess on why the Dead Sea Scrolls were there, or anything else. Sara(?): Something religious. Glenn: Okay, good. Even though I’ve explained this on this program a couple of times, I’m glad to see that even the people that work with me don’t even listen. So here’s what happened. When Constantine decided that he was going to cobble together an army, he did the Council of Nicea, right, Pat? Pat: Yea. Glenn: The Council of Nicea, and what they did is brought all of the religious figures together, all the Christians and then they said, “Ok, let’s put together the Apostles’ Creed, let’s you know, you guys do it.” So they brought all their religious scripture together, that’s when the Bible was first bound and everything else. And then they said, “Anybody that disagrees with this is a heretic and off with their head!” Well, that’s what the Dead Sea Scrolls are. The Dead Sea Scrolls are those scriptures that people had at the time that they said, “They are destroying all of this truth.” Whether it’s truth or not is up to the individual, but at that time those people thought that this was something that needed to be preserved and so they rolled up the scrolls and put them in clay pots and they put them in the back of caves where no one could find them. They were hidden scripture because everything was being destroyed that disagreed with the Council of Nicea and Constantine. That’s what those things are.”
Schleitheim has done a hilarious analysis here. Glenn Beck is simply too stupid for words. It is little wonder that Liberty University thought he was a worthy choice to speak at their commencement ceremony.
The Mormons have significant documentation issues across the board. It’s not surprising that he would try to paint Christendom with the same brush.
Oh, haha..I happened to catch that show and now I see his mistake, it wasn’t the “Dead Sea Scrolls” it was the Nag Hamadi writings including Plutarch...
Beck mixed up Nag Hamadi with Qumran, though his concept, that religious people hid their dearly held writings in the face of an enemy that would destroy them, the scrolls were deposited in the caves to prevent there destruction.
In general, I like Glenn Beck....but his explanation of the Dead Sea Scrolls is beyond ridiculous and is not academically supported.
So can someone tell us what IS the correct origin and history of these Dead Sea Scrolls?
Beck should stick to what he knows and leave religious history alone. “A man’s gotta know his limitations”.
I wasn’t familiar with Nag Hammadi. That history actually gives GB a little cover.
It’s common knowledge:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_sea_scrolls
“common knowledge” is an oxymoron, like common sense.
Yeah, too stupid for words.
Beck confused some ancient texts, most of which people are clueless about. So that sure makes him stupid.
This article and the commentary proves that the war against Beck is now a Holy War of the Jihad stripe.
Why?
Because Beck is trying to warn people about how many of the mainstay churches and synagogues were taken over by Socialists.
The theological seminaries were infiltrated by Marxists/Statists at about the same time that they infiltrated academe. It originated in Germany, spread to the major European universities and then to the American universities.
When they infiltrated the theological seminaries, they replaced the Christian message of individual salvation that changes a person to perform good works to one of collective salvation that arises only through good works (good works as defined by Socialists, redistributing not only wealth but earnings, not “judging” even behavior that is an abomination to God, suicidal pacifism, etc.).
Beck is demonstrating regularly now how most churches are nothing more than arms of Socialism hidden with feel-good terms like “economic justice” and “social justice.”
So it is natural that churches and “religious” people who are Socialists first would want to destroy Beck. Their view of God’s kingdom is that of a totalitarian State. And Statism is their true religion.
Thus, they are fighting a Holy War with someone who is simply warning people of the wolves in sheep’s clothing WHILE HE IS ALSO ADVISING THEM TO TURN TO GOD TO PREPARE FOR THE DARK TIMES AHEAD.
Incidentally, I listen to Beck daily. I never heard him refer to Socialist Christians as “stupid” or as “morons” just misguided or misguiding based upon their Statist message.
The Dead Sea Scrolls were portions of the Old Testament written down by a Jewish sect called the Essenes (Sp?) in the first century AD, probably during the time of Masada, or the Roman destruction of the Jewish Temple at Jerusalem...
They were found hidden in a cave in the late 1940’s.
They contained the book of Isaiah, the Psalms, and I can't recall what other books of the Bible...
They are vastly important because they confirm our modern translations of the Bible down to a single word.
Meaning, there were no mistakes made in our modern translations of these books! Especially when one considers how much of the New Testament story is contained in Isaiah and the Psalms, the Dead Sea Scrolls take on an even more important place in history. (Isaiah 53 is a prophecy about the birth of Christ, Psalms is filled with messianic prophecies fulfilled in the coming of Jesus...)
Since the Bible was always a hand copied text until the advent of the printing press in the 11 century, the evidence that the Bible we have is reliable, (at least those books of the OT that were in the Dead Sea Scrolls) the discovery of the Scrolls is a wonderful find for Jews and Christians alike.
I could be remembering some of the above incorrectly, but this is I believe a good overview.
Glenn’s “jump the shark” moment? His credibility is on the wane.
I visited Qumran in 2000, so perhaps my knowledge of the subject is a little more “common” that the average bear.
Well instead of posturing on some holy alter, and calling him “stupid”, like some 10 year old, just write him and tell him where he is in error, and he will gladly correct himself on his next show.
Like somehow THIS is something 99.9999% of people would honestly give a riff about someone getting wrong.
It’s not like Christ will give you an extra gold star for being so pompous about it.
Actually, the Dead Sea Scrolls are what each of the 57 states created at their inception, then hid from the illegal immigrant invaders.
“Glenn’s “jump the shark” moment? His credibility is on the wane.”
Yeah because he has been so wrong on things lately.
/sarcasm
I wouldn’t go that far. Rush has had a few factual errors and more than a few embarrassing malapropisms and has survived just fine. I just thought it was not a good moment for the show.
Credibility? Did you see Friday’s show on the black founders?
He threw so many facts at me I couldn’t keep up, all backed by good scholars and research; I wish I’d Tivo’d it.
If this is what Beck said, then Beck is woefully ignorant of the history of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
That does not make him ignorant in other areas.
I did not accuse him of being generally ignorant. I repeat, I am a huge fan. I chose this source, partially, to show what anti Beck people are thinking.
HA HA yea! Glenn it TOO SToooPID FOR WORDS... hee hee hee.. that’s it for him then, huh?
duhhhhh he made a questionalble mistake about some ancient manuscripts in the context of a description of why they would be hidden in a cave (to prevent destruction) and THAT’S IT HE’S DONE FOR - every thing he has ever said and done is now in question!
- Beck is doing more for this country than many people combined (including YOU if this is your contribution)
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