Um, are you Desdemona? Is she(?) your puppet? Why didn’t you jump in, all “Do my work for me” when blackpacific asked sonic109 for specifics on the churches’ many, many previous false relics and hoaxes? Shoe on the other foot now? And are you ignoring the last sentence of my first post?
Doubledown throwdown, yo. C-14 Retest,
Winner
Takes
All.
Turin Cathedral, once bitten, twice shy, literally hasn’t got the balls to retest.
I am NO ONE's puppet. Aruanan is a screen name I see here and it seems that we have some common interests and, probably a common faith.
Relic hoaxes have been around for centuries. Knowing that one is really authentic takes a continuous provenance. It's the same way with art. What makes the relics from the Passion different is that they do have a continuous presence in written tradition. The Shroud, the Veil, the Crown of Thorns (currently in Notre Dame in Paris) and the facial cloth in Spain, all have been documented in Europe since the crusades. They were, for all intents and purposes, confiscated. Before that, all were documented in the middle east. Modern science also tells us that the same man's blood is on each of these. I'll have to double check on the Veil, but the other three, yes. I don't need the physical proof that so many seem to think is crucial.
I just asked for one example of another shroud, since Sonic109 made the claim that many places in Europe claimed to have a shroud.
I never got an answer.