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To: flowerplough; aruanan
Um, are you Desdemona? Is she(?) your puppet?

I am NO ONE's puppet. Aruanan is a screen name I see here and it seems that we have some common interests and, probably a common faith.

Relic hoaxes have been around for centuries. Knowing that one is really authentic takes a continuous provenance. It's the same way with art. What makes the relics from the Passion different is that they do have a continuous presence in written tradition. The Shroud, the Veil, the Crown of Thorns (currently in Notre Dame in Paris) and the facial cloth in Spain, all have been documented in Europe since the crusades. They were, for all intents and purposes, confiscated. Before that, all were documented in the middle east. Modern science also tells us that the same man's blood is on each of these. I'll have to double check on the Veil, but the other three, yes. I don't need the physical proof that so many seem to think is crucial.

20 posted on 05/08/2010 8:47:13 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Desdemona

Thanks for the previous link, when I asked, and the “puppet” dig wasn’t meant to be directed your way. Sorry if you’re feeling what Bush and Obama both call collateral damage. You’ve gone an made another fairly weighty claim, though, that “Modern science also tells us that the same man’s blood is on each of these” relics; wonder if you can tell me which modern scientist(s) tell us so?


22 posted on 05/08/2010 9:58:02 AM PDT by flowerplough ( Pennsylvania today - New New Jersey meets North West Virginia.)
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