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Brother Brigham forces the LDS reader to ponder some uncomfortable thoughts
Ogden Standard-Examiner ^
| April 22, 2010
| Doug Gibson
Posted on 04/23/2010 9:33:26 AM PDT by Colofornian
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From the article: Brother Brigham is not a book critical of the LDS faith, but its very plot forces the honest Mormon reader to confront two uncomfortable thoughts. How many of us, if we had lived in the time of Joseph Smith, would have believed a 14-year-old boy had been visted by Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ? And, a question perhaps even more difficult to answer, is: Had we been members of the early LDS Church, how many of us would have agreed to ditch our matrimonial covenants and pursue wives half our age? Would we have thought that was of God, or a product of lust? These are not questions that todays Mormons ponder often. In fact, most of us have become quite comfortable scorning fundamentalist polygamist Mormons for their sinful lifestyles.
To: Colofornian
God has never encouraged people to divorce.
Such thoughts show the sin beneath Mormonism.
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posted on
04/23/2010 9:37:23 AM PDT
by
ConservativeMind
(Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
To: All
From the article:
One day, out of the blue, Brigham Young appears to C.H. and tells him that the LDS Church has slipped into apostasy and that he, C.H., has been called of God to restore the Gospel. Brigham informs C.H. that polygamy must also be restored. Brigham leads C.H. to hidden away money in the desert west of Salt Lake City. The angel, using the same type of language as the Prophet Joseph Smith records in Mormon accounts, pushes C.H. to get things rolling. C.H. reluctantly agrees. He manages to convince his skeptical wife, and then follows the angels commandment to marry Satan-dabbler Sheila, who perhaps not surprisingly given her personality, accepts C.H.s offer. Things start to spiral out of control when Brigham commands C.H. to take an underage ward teen, Cyndy, as a second plural wife.Hmm...sounds like a 19th century story line...
...Brigham replaces an unnamed "personage"...
...$ instead of "gold plates"...
..."angel, using same type of language as the prophet" replaces gold plates using same type of language as KJV Bible (even though supposedly KJV published thousands of years after some of the BoM gold plate writings)...
underage ward teen...well, that was a direct import...Smith's first plural wife was an underage ward teen living at their house. Even Lds apologists say Smith was sleeping with her by 1831.
To: ConservativeMind
/yawn
Typical anti-Mormon TWIST.
Who said to “ditch matrimonal covenants” means divorce. I am sure it was quite uncomfortable for many of them in the early days to have to change from the covenant of having the one wife to having more (which would probably and hopefully include the original) as it had been done before in bibical times.
What a faith test that would have to be.
I envy them not.
To: Colofornian
It always comes back to the matter of authority. The members of the LDS will believe whatever the Mormon hierarchy tells them to believe. If it comes to believing what you say versus what the Mormon hierarchy says, they will always choose the latter.
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posted on
04/23/2010 9:56:10 AM PDT
by
Nosterrex
To: ConservativeMind
God has never encouraged people to divorce.
_______________________________________
Not divorce...
Worse..
“ditch our matrimonial covenants” means to commit adultery...
Polygtamy is bigamy...adultery...
To: Colofornian
Who’s uncomfortable? I’m not.
To: Colofornian
How many of us, if we had lived in the time of Joseph Smith, would have believed a 14-year-old boy had been visted by Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ?I thought you always preached that mormons don't believe in the trinity and that they only believe that Jesus is God? Then how could a 14-year-old boy be "visted by Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ"? I think you accidently exposed a constradiction in your zealotry. Doh!
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posted on
04/23/2010 10:34:01 AM PDT
by
999replies
(Thune/Rubio 2012)
To: 999replies; Colofornian
Oh my! SOMEbody was exposed and it wasn’t Colofornian.
999, Do you know what the trinity is? Are there two personages in the Holy Trinity?
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posted on
04/23/2010 10:35:27 AM PDT
by
colorcountry
( Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it.)
To: colorcountry
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posted on
04/23/2010 10:46:31 AM PDT
by
ejonesie22
( Tagline being renovated under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act...)
To: 999replies
Brilliant.
Not.
The old "better to remain silent..." meme comes to mind...
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posted on
04/23/2010 10:48:39 AM PDT
by
ejonesie22
( Tagline being renovated under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act...)
To: ejonesie22; 999replies; Colofornian
999 said:
I thought you always preached that mormons don't believe in the trinity and that they only believe that Jesus is God?
He shows just how confused he is regarding Mormons. What Mormons believe is that are three separate but equal Gods that make-up the godhead.....there is the flesh and bone God the Father, the Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit who somehow became a God without ever getting a body of flesh and bone. Mormons do NOT believe in the Trinity and Colofornian has NEVER preached that Mormons believe Jesus is God - they certainly do NOT.
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posted on
04/23/2010 10:56:37 AM PDT
by
colorcountry
( Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it.)
To: colorcountry
Just proving that his only purpose is to disrupt with hypocritical “anti bullying” bullying. There is not one wit of intellectual curiosity or interest in the facts.
Like I said:
Brilliant.
We now officially know the score on this one and can act accordingly.
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posted on
04/23/2010 11:05:21 AM PDT
by
ejonesie22
( Tagline being renovated under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act...)
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To: ConservativeMind
The first wife becomes a ‘plural wife’, the FIRST plural wife, as soon as the second wife is enjoied. When a third wife is married into the circle, she is the third plural wife since the first wife has been relegated to first/only one on a list.
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posted on
04/23/2010 11:15:42 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
To: 999replies; Colofornian
I thought you always preached that mormons don't believe in the trinity and that they only believe that Jesus is God? Then how could a 14-year-old boy be "visted by Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ"? I think you accidently exposed a constradiction in your zealotry. Doh!
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posted on
04/23/2010 11:16:05 AM PDT
by
Godzilla
(3-7-77)
To: colorcountry; All
Best to place a nasty littleman agitprop is on the ignore list. Feeding responses only enlivens the already ‘found wanting’ life. This n00b will persist in absurdities, trying to goad response to feed its sickness.
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posted on
04/23/2010 11:20:48 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
To: Colofornian
How many of us, if we had lived in the time of Joseph Smith, would have believed a 14-year-old boy had been visted by Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ?And yet, you are so much more sophisticated that you believe the entire world was populated by two people. And you believe that a guy literally parted the Red Sea or that a baby was born from a virgin. Or maybe you believe we came from monkeys? In the big picture, God visiting a boy ain't very extreme, but the sack you have to make fun of it because it is far fetched, is priceless.
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posted on
04/23/2010 11:22:14 AM PDT
by
999replies
(Thune/Rubio 2012)
To: MHGinTN
I find him particularly entertaining though.
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posted on
04/23/2010 11:23:20 AM PDT
by
ejonesie22
( Tagline being renovated under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act...)
To: 999replies
The other day I asked what your your backgound with mormonism is http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2495971/posts?page=166#166 . I didn’t accuse you of being a Mormon only of having some sort of association with it - most people have some sort of background regarding Mormonism - they’ve run into missionaries, have family members or friends or work associates that are LDS . Now I know you were never a Mormon or close to a Mormon, you have no understanding of it. You don’t have a clue about their beliefs OR Christianity. I still wonder what your motivation is in inserting yourself into the discussion of Christian dogma. It looks like you are simply a disruptor.
At least you’ve exposed yourself here.
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posted on
04/23/2010 11:24:19 AM PDT
by
colorcountry
( Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it.)
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