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1 posted on 02/21/2010 1:44:48 PM PST by SmithL
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Yep, deal breaker, but the church has been going that way for a long time now.


2 posted on 02/21/2010 1:49:11 PM PST by Gnomad
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To: SmithL
Brooks said the decision by the assembly just offers congregations another option for calling pastors.

Like saying that going bisexual "just offers another option for Saturday night." Like Obamanoid Robert Gibbs, the arrogance of these leftwing secular pseudochristian posers is nauseating.

3 posted on 02/21/2010 1:51:07 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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“God is far more open than us on lots of things.”


No...He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. God never contradicts what he has written. He also warns never to add or take away from his word.


4 posted on 02/21/2010 1:51:41 PM PST by Spudx7
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To: SmithL

Sins committed and or tolerated in the name of “equality and civil rights” are subject to God’s “Supra-constitutional” oversight. Christians may have to choose between what is “constitutional” and what is Biblical...and the chasm is getting wider and harder to bridge.


5 posted on 02/21/2010 1:54:26 PM PST by mdmathis6
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To: SmithL
if you as a congregation want to have a married or civil-unioned or long-term, faithful, monogamous gay or lesbian pastor, you can. You don’t have to, but if you want to, you can give it a try.”

You can have a homosexual preacher who enjoys doing a little fisting on Sunday morning, before he uses the same hand to give you the body of Christ at Holy Communion. You don't have to, but if you want to, you can give it a try.

6 posted on 02/21/2010 2:02:14 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: SmithL

These are the same reasons raised by those that accepted and endorsed women’s ordination: (1) It is an issue of equality and justice (2) The church has to change with the times (3) God’s grace means that you can ignore the law (Gospel Reductionism). Using those reasons, you can justify or rationalize anything. It is nothing other than cultural relativism. The contemporary culture determines what is meant by equality and justice, and what is moral. There is nothing objectively or intrinsically good or bad. Many ancient societies accepted and promoted pedophilia. It was considered a virtue by the Spartans as was killing slaves as long as you did not get caught. Getting caught was bad. I could justify these acts using the same arguments that you find in the ELCA.


7 posted on 02/21/2010 2:05:33 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: lightman

Exodua Ping


8 posted on 02/21/2010 2:06:31 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

“Come out from among them”-St. Paul


9 posted on 02/21/2010 2:07:55 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: SmithL

This is NOT a matter of equality and civil rights - it’s a matter of the Gospel of Jesus Christ!


10 posted on 02/21/2010 4:37:08 PM PST by Gumdrop
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To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...


Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

Keep a Good Lent!

12 posted on 02/21/2010 6:40:16 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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“Some churches are seeking to live in a day that no longer exists,” he added.

Pastor Vaswig, may I refer you to Malachi 3:6a?

"For I am the LORD, I change not."

Seems pretty clear to me.

13 posted on 02/21/2010 6:50:26 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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Exposing the ELCA
19 posted on 02/23/2010 5:25:24 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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This is an old article from Jan 6

It is begging for an update.

Pilgrim Lutheran Church took a vote and a number of members, including the acting senior pastor, chose to break off and form their own congregation. They established a new congregation which now meets at Ballou Junior High School.

Now we are two churches instead of one,” said Mike Deal, a Pilgrim Lutheran parishoner who spoke as an individual and not on behalf of the church.

He and his wife have made the decision to stay with the original Pilgrim Lutheran Church.

“I feel very strongly that it is a matter of equality and civil rights,” he added.

I will have you know that I (right way right) am a member of this church, (the portion that split and left) and it has has been nothing but a genuine blessing to those that did leave!

It has been absolutely incredible what God has done in blessing our holding to His WORD and set out into the wilderness as we have done.

To God be the Glory!

This is a link to the home page of Living word Lutheran Church.

http://livingwordlutheranchurch.com/index.html

The "we are now two churches" statement made by Mike Deal in this article is ridiculous!

The have their clubhouse at Pilgrim, and we have church!

Even though it meets at a school, we just truck it all there, it takes an hour to set up and we are very happy and at peace with doing so.

There has already been tremendous growth and there will be more.

The whole assumption that this is all about a sexual issue is wrong.

What this is about is the ELCA taking up every left wing liberal political social cause placing it over the authority of God and ramming it down the throats of the membership. Well, now they are hitting the gag reflex!

It's been over due!

20 posted on 02/25/2010 2:27:42 AM PST by right way right
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