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McKay Coppins: Why do they hate us? Try asking
Mormon Times ^ | 2/5/2010 | McKay Coppins

Posted on 02/13/2010 7:10:15 PM PST by svcw

If there's one thing a BYU religion professor likes to talk about, I suppose it's the gospel. But if there are TWO things a BYU religion professor likes to talk about, you've got to add his son's mission to the list.

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1 posted on 02/13/2010 7:10:16 PM PST by svcw
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To: svcw

This is an OPEN thread.


2 posted on 02/13/2010 7:15:33 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: svcw

I don’t know anybody who hates Mormons. I would ADVISE them to become a more normal Christian religion and drop the 1830’s vision of scifi theology, particularly after the thing about the “book of Abraham” and the Rosette stone has become known.


3 posted on 02/13/2010 7:18:15 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: svcw

This is an OPEN thread.
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Then I will OPENLY say...

Mormonism is not Christianity...

There is only one way to God the Father...Jesus...

Jesus said to the mormons, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man or woman comes to the father, except by me. John 14:6

For God so loved the world that he GAVE His ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, that whosoever believeth in HIM should no perish buth have EVERLASTING LIFE John 3:16

Jesus answered and said to him, Verily, verily, I say to thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:3


4 posted on 02/13/2010 7:24:00 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: wendy1946

You are correct. The theology sounds very similar to scientology, sometimes I wonder if Hubbard got his theory from Joe Smith.


5 posted on 02/13/2010 7:27:12 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: svcw

Mormons are nice people and make great neighbors. Just don’t agree with the theology.


6 posted on 02/13/2010 7:38:26 PM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

AMEN


7 posted on 02/13/2010 7:38:39 PM PST by exnavy (May the Lord grant our troops protection and endurance.)
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To: svcw

There is an underlying assumption that anyone who disagrees with Mormon theology automatically ‘hates’ individual Mormons.

I have several friends who are LDS and while I vehemently speak out against LDS theology and the practice of whitewashing their history, I love individual LDS very much.

However, that does not stop many of them from thinking that an attack on ‘the church’ is an attack personally.

I am beginning to think that this is partly due to the fact that members lives are so tightly wrapped up in the LDS church. “The church” is their life, social circle, and identity in many ways that it is hard to identify themselves outside of it. I think this is also part of the reason that it is so hard to leave the LDS church.


8 posted on 02/13/2010 7:41:02 PM PST by reaganaut ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: svcw
Maybe this could be approached like a Letterman's Top 10 list?

6. those skinny little ties!

9 posted on 02/13/2010 7:48:50 PM PST by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to both variation & deviation)
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To: svcw
I read what he wrote, and although I can't disprove what he wrote, I find the experiences he's relating from other missionaries to be a bit over the top.

A stranger starts berating them in an airport?

A passenger on a plane requests to be moved because he doesn't want to sit next to them?

These just don't sound credible and even if they are, how do these actions relate to "hate"?

10 posted on 02/13/2010 7:49:02 PM PST by SZonian (I see people who claim they are victims of "hatred", Alinsky's tactics are alive and well on FR.)
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I agree it is unbelievable. However, if true it could be the person did not want to sit next to the young man for hours listening to his memorized speech about Joe Smith.
11 posted on 02/13/2010 7:56:28 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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In his stories, I didn't see where any of the missionaries were told they were "hated" because they were mormon.

If they were "berated" in the airport, we don't know the motive of the person allegedly doing so. We don't have that person's side of the story. There are many possible motives, but to ascribe "hate" to the encounter is pure conjecture on the author's part.

Is this "writer" trying to relate any and all resistance to discussion, any engagement that is not receptive to the lds message, any theological disagreement, etc. as "hate"?

It sounds like it.

12 posted on 02/13/2010 8:09:04 PM PST by SZonian (I see people who claim they are victims of "hatred", Alinsky's tactics are alive and well on FR.)
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To: SZonian

Its like playing the race card.


13 posted on 02/13/2010 8:12:50 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: greyfoxx39; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; Tennessee Nana; ..

Ping to this article written previous to the “why do they hate us? The Responses article posted here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2449952/posts


14 posted on 02/13/2010 8:27:06 PM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: SZonian

If they were “berated” in the airport, we don’t know the motive of the person allegedly doing so
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Probably no more so than another cult that is harrassing at airports, the Hari Krishnas...

They used to chase after people trying to put their literature in carry ons etc...


15 posted on 02/13/2010 8:30:23 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: svcw

hate cards Because there is no shortage of _______.


16 posted on 02/13/2010 8:31:53 PM PST by BlueMoose
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To: SZonian

A passenger on a plane requests to be moved because he doesn’t want to sit next to them?

These just don’t sound credible and even if they are, how do these actions relate to “hate”?
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Do mormons readily sit next to homosexuals or drunks without complaining ???


17 posted on 02/13/2010 8:32:34 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: BlueMoose

Let us be honest, however: we are human beings; we love and we hate.


18 posted on 02/13/2010 8:35:30 PM PST by BlueMoose
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To: SZonian

A sister missionary from my Ward had a bucket of water thrown on her while serving in Germany. If that wasn’t a hateful act, I don’t know what was.

Some anti Mormons think that it was funny that my friend had a bucket of water thrown on her. We are a peculiar people; that’s true. But my young friend who has given up so much to serve the Savior did not deserve to have that happen to her.

On the other hand, when our missionaries are abused and dishonored and mocked, after the sting wears off, there is rejoicing because they realize they are suffering persecution for the sake of the Redeemer and Savior of the world.

Hallelujah!!!

I am a Mormon. I used to be an anti Mormon until I let the Holy Ghost speak to my heart.


19 posted on 02/13/2010 8:35:38 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: svcw

Why do they hate us?

“What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world”
- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 270

“...all the priests who adhere to the sectarian religions of the day with all their followers, without one exception, receive their portion with the devil and his angels.”
- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. , The Elders Journal, v. 1, no. 4, p. 60

“When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was groveling in darkness.”
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 5, p. 73

“With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world.”
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p. 199

“The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God”
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p. 171

“What! Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute beast.”
- Prophet John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, v. 13, p. 225

“Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls.”
- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, see pp. 45-46

“... all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ.... in large part the worship of apostate Christendom is performed in ignorance, as much so as was the worship of the Athenians who bowed the Unknown Gods.”
- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pp. 269, 374-375


20 posted on 02/13/2010 8:41:11 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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