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The Sacraments (why don't Catholics, who disagree with teachings of the Church, just leave)
CERC ^ | Peter Kreeft

Posted on 01/18/2010 1:27:51 PM PST by NYer

Adult conversion to Catholicism involves more than adding a few new beliefs. It means a whole new world and life view. No ingredient in that new perspective was more of a shock to my old Protestant sensibilities when I became a Catholic than the idea that the God-man is really present in, and not just symbolized by, what appears to be a wafer of bread and a cup of wine. It seemed scandalous!

It has ceased to scandalize me, though it has not ceased to amaze me, that Almighty God suffers me to touch him, move him and eat him! Imagine! When I move my hand to my mouth with the Host, I move God through space. When I put him here, he is here. When I put him there, he is there. The Prime Mover lets me move him where I will. It is as amazing as the Incarnation itself, for it is the Incarnation, the continuation of the Incarnation.

I think I understand how the typical Protestant feels about sacramentalism not only because I was a Protestant but because it is a natural and universal feeling. The Catholic doctrine of the sacraments is shocking to everyone. It should be a shock to Catholics too. But familiarity breeds dullness.

To Protestants, sacraments must be one of two things: either mere symbols, reminders, like words; or else real magic. And the Catholic definition of a sacrament — a visible sign instituted by Christ to give grace, a sign that really effects what it symbolizes — sounds like magic. Catholic doctrine teaches that the sacraments work ex opere operato, i.e., objectively, though not impersonally and automatically like machines. They are gifts that come from without but must be freely received.

Protestants are usually much more comfortable with a merely symbolic view of sacraments, for their faith is primarily verbal, not sacramental. After all, it is the Bible that looms so large in the center of their horizon. They believe in creation and Incarnation and Resurrection only because they are in the Bible. The material events are surrounded by the holy words. The Catholic sensibility is the inside-out version of this: the words are surrounded by the holy facts. To the Catholic sensibility it is not primarily words but matter that is holy because God created it, incarnated himself in it, raised it from death, and took it to heaven with him in his ascension.

Orthodox Protestants believe these scriptural dogmas, of course, just as surely as Catholics do. But they do not, I think, feel the crude, even vulgar facticity of them as strongly. That’s why they do not merely disagree with but are profoundly shocked by the real presence and transubstantiation. Luther, by the way, taught the real presence and something much closer to transubstantiation than most Protestants believe, namely consubstantiation, the belief that Christ’s body and blood are really present in the Eucharist, but so are the bread and wine. Catholics believe the elements are changed; Lutherans believe they are added to.

Most Protestants believe the Eucharist only symbolizes Christ, though some, following Calvin, add that it is an occasion for special grace, a sign and a seal. But though I was a Calvinist for twenty one years, I do not remember any emphasis on that notion. Much more often, I heard the contrast between the Protestant “ spiritual “ interpretation and the Catholic “material “, “magical” one.

The basic objection Protestants have to sacramentalism is this: How can divine grace depend on matter, something passive and unfree? Isn’t it unfair for God’s grace to depend on anything other than his will and mine? I felt that objection strongly until I realized that the sheer fact that I have a body — this body, with this heredity, which came to me and still comes to me without my choice — is also “unfair”. One gets a healthy body, another does not. As one philosopher said, “Life isn’t fair.”

It’s the very nature of the material world we live in, the very fact of a material world at all, that is so “unfair” that it moved Ivan Karamazov to rebellion against God in that profoundest and most Christian novel, Dostoevsky’s The Brothers Karamazov. As he explains to his believing brother Alyosha, “It’s not God that I can’t accept, it’s this world of his” — a world in which bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people. But it might be better than fair rather than less, gift rather than payment, grace rather than justice, “fair” as “beautiful” rather than “fair” as rational “ — like a sacrament.

In fact, the world is a sacrament. We receive God through every material reality (though not in the same special way as in the sacraments proper). The answer to the Protestant objection to the unfairness of the sacraments is that only a world of pure spirit would be perfectly fair. Only angels get exactly what they deserve individually.

Praise God, we get infinitely more than we deserve! The sacraments remind us that the whole world is a sacrament, a sacred thing, a gift; and the sacramental character of the world reminds us of the central sacrament, the Incarnation, continued among us in the seven sacraments of the Church, especially in the Eucharist. The sacramental view of the world and the Catholic doctrine of the sacraments illuminate each other like large and small mirrors.

Both the sacrament of the world and the sacrament of incarnation/ Eucharist also remind us that we too are sacramental, matter made holy by spirit. Our bodies are not corpses moved by ghosts, or cars steered by angels, but temples of the Holy Spirit. In our bodies, especially our faces, matter is transmuted into meaning. The eyes are the windows of the soul.

Protestants sometimes object to the sacraments by asking whether a baby’s eternal destiny is altered if the water of baptism does not quite reach his forehead before the church building falls on him and kills him, or whether a penitent who gets run over and killed by a truck while crossing the street on his way to a sacramental confession will suffer hell or a longer purgatory only because the truck happened to hit him before rather than after confession. The answer to such a question is: not necessarily. We do not know God’s plan unless he reveals it to us, and he has revealed the sacraments. But not only the sacraments. The early Church called the death of martyrs who had no opportunity for baptism “the baptism of blood”, and the intention (explicit or even implicit) to be baptized “the baptism of desire” (thus allowing good, God-seeking pagans into heaven). This Catholic doctrine of “back-door grace” seems shifty verbal trickery to many Protestants, but it is necessary to preserve two undeniable truths: first, that we are commanded to receive the sacraments and told that “unless you eat my body and drink my blood, you have no life in you” and, second, that God is just and merciful and does not deny grace to any who seek it.

Perhaps we Catholics are like the laborers who worked only an hour, in our Lord’s parable (Mt 20:1-16), and those without the sacraments like those who worked all day. It seems unfair that both groups got the same wages. So it seems unfair that we are given all this extra sacramental help, easier grace, so to speak. But the Lord of the vineyard replied to this objection: “Is it not lawful for me to do what I wish with my own?” This reply scandalizes our sense of political justice. But it fits the nature of the world; and it is the world of nature, God’s creation, rather than politics, man’s creation, that declares the glory of God. The sacraments declare the same scandalous generosity.

We don’t deserve to be born or to be born again or to be baptized. We don’t deserve God’s sun or God’s Son. We don’t deserve delicious bread and wine or the Body and Blood of Christ. But we are given all this, and more. As Christopher Derrick put it, in a poem entitled “The Resurrection of the Body”:

He’s a terror that one:
Turns water into wine,
Wine into blood –
I wonder what He turns blood into?

Catholics often have a more-than-intellectual faith in the sacraments that Protestants do not understand. Thus they don’t see why Catholics who come to disagree with essential teachings of the Church don’t just leave. The answer is symbolized by the sanctuary lamp. They do not leave the Church because they know that the sacramental fire burns there on the ecclesiastical hearth. Even if they do not see by its light, they want to be warmed by its fire. The real presence of Christ in the Eucharist is a magnet drawing lost sheep home and keeping would-be strays from the deathly snows outside. The Church’s biggest drawing card is not what she teaches, crucial as that is, but who is there. “He is here! Therefore I must be here.”


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Mainline Protestant; Ministry/Outreach
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ACKNOWLEDGEMENT

Kreeft, Peter. “The Sacraments.” Chapter 45 in Fundamentals of the Faith (San Francisco: Ignatius Press, 1988), 282-286.

Reprinted by permission of Ignatius Press. All rights reserved. Fundamentals of the Faith - ISBN 0-89870-202-X.

THE AUTHOR

Peter Kreeft has written extensively (over 25 books) in the areas of Christian apologetics. Link to all of Peter Kreeft's books here.

Peter Kreeft teaches at Boston College in Boston Massachusetts. He is on the Advisory Board of the Catholic Educator's Resource Center.

1 posted on 01/18/2010 1:27:52 PM PST by NYer
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Thus they don’t see why Catholics who come to disagree with essential teachings of the Church don’t just leave. The answer is symbolized by the sanctuary lamp. They do not leave the Church because they know that the sacramental fire burns there on the ecclesiastical hearth. Even if they do not see by its light, they want to be warmed by its fire.

2 posted on 01/18/2010 1:29:51 PM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer
I wonder what He turns blood into?

I'm guessing fire or light.

3 posted on 01/18/2010 1:41:23 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: NYer
One word =

F E A R

4 posted on 01/18/2010 2:25:32 PM PST by Jmouse007 (God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: Jmouse007

Of what?


5 posted on 01/18/2010 2:26:26 PM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer
St. John Cantius It has ceased to scandalize me, though it has not ceased to amaze me, that Almighty God suffers me to touch him, move him and eat him! Imagine! When I move my hand to my mouth with the Host, I move God through space. When I put him here, he is here. When I put him there, he is there. The Prime Mover lets me move him where I will ...

Communion in the hand scandalizes me to some point as well (and I could listen to Mr. Kreft's words more intently if he received on the tongue only). I, myself (even though it is allowed), am no longer a go-between in the transfer of Our Most Precious Lord.

And those that stay with the Church -- although they do not believe in the essential teachings of the Church -- is beyond me as to why they do, except maybe they never did understand them to begin with -- in which case they should not have become Catholic -- and their ignorance causes their folly. If they DID understand, they'd never sit on the sidelines while the rest of the team fights, seeks, and strives to win the game (through the Most Holy Eucharist, Reconciliation, Adoration, good works, and so on).

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6 posted on 01/18/2010 2:26:57 PM PST by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: Mad Dawg; NYer
I wonder what He turns blood into?

I'm guessing fire or light.

Life everlasting. John 6:53-54.

7 posted on 01/18/2010 3:04:46 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: mlizzy

I am receiving in the hand right now because our bishop has requested it due to H1N1.

We also no longer receive the blood.

Can’t wait til things get back to normal.


8 posted on 01/18/2010 3:37:25 PM PST by Not gonna take it anymore (Happily Catholic)
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To: Jmouse007

Fear of what?


9 posted on 01/18/2010 4:51:36 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: NYer

Just a note or to.

Lutherans believe in the Real Presence, not consubstatution. The latter is an Anglican term.

And there are non Catholics/Protestants that have Sacraments. I suspect the author came from a Baptist or similar background, and really didn’t have much contact with that.


10 posted on 01/18/2010 6:25:43 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: NYer

I believe they don’t leave because deep in their hearts they know the truth. They don’t want to live it right now, but they know it’s the truth.


11 posted on 01/18/2010 6:53:18 PM PST by Melian ("Here's the moral of the story: Catholic witness has a cost." ~Archbishop Charles Chaput)
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To: Melian
They don’t want to live it right now, but they know it’s the truth.

In a lot of ways this is probably true. Then there are MANY who were not well catechized at all and remain willfully ignorant. They're not interested in knowing the details, but they know the overall truth. Unfortunately, it's become commonplace.

12 posted on 01/18/2010 7:34:39 PM PST by Desdemona (These are the times that try men's souls. - Remember Christmas 1776)
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To: redgolum
I suspect the author came from a Baptist or similar background

Prof. Kreeft was Dutch Reformed. He converted to Catholicism in college.

13 posted on 01/18/2010 8:34:01 PM PST by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: NYer
Well, as an adult convert from Catholicism to catholicism - as in non-Catholic Christian - I can say the sacrament of the Lord's Supper, or Communion, means far more to me now than when I received it in Mass. I know it is not literally THE body and blood of my savior, Jesus Christ, but a representation and recognition of the truth that his body was broken and his blood shed for my salvation. When I eat the tiny piece of cracker and drink the tiny cup of grape juice, I see in it a participation in that last night supper of Jesus and his disciples, where he told them as often as you eat the bread and drink the wine, you do show the Lord's death until he comes again.

I partake, as a symbol, these elements to proclaim with my brothers and sisters in the Lord that I have accepted him as my savior and that because of his sacrifice I will have eternal life with him in heaven.

In my heart, I see this sacrament, if you want to call it that, as a gesture of faith that I have already received the grace necessary for salvation and not as a way to actually receive the grace. Scripture so clearly states we are saved by grace through faith...not of works. This indeed is an area where we differ, but I do not think it is the "Protestants" that have missed the true point.

14 posted on 01/18/2010 8:45:56 PM PST by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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To: redgolum

It is my understanding that Lutherans believe in the Body of Christ, but they still believe it is a piece of bread, also. Therein may lie the difference.

Catholics believe that the consecrated host/bread IS the TRUE Body of Jesus Christ.


15 posted on 01/18/2010 8:59:14 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: boatbums

Were you baptized in the Catholic Church? You are still a Catholic unless you filled out paperwork (lots) and sat for a hearing in front of a panel of priests.


16 posted on 01/18/2010 9:00:59 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Every time the bell rings, It startles the heck out of me.

I guess you just have to be there.


17 posted on 01/18/2010 9:03:49 PM PST by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: Salvation
Been through this before...I am sure the Catholic Church still counts me as one in the official tally, but since I had no say in the matter as an infant I can definitely make that decision for myself now. It really doesn't matter to me anyway, because I know the Lord sees my heart to know I am one of his, he doesn't need a certificate to tell him. :o)
18 posted on 01/18/2010 9:30:53 PM PST by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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To: boatbums
I know it is not literally THE body and blood of my savior, Jesus Christ, but a representation and recognition of the truth that his body was broken and his blood shed for my salvation.

Not, according to scripture and not according to science. In Mark 14, verses 22 through 26, we hear the words of institution, "And as they were eating He took bread and blessed and broke it and gave it to them and said, 'Take, this is my body.' He did not say 'Take, this represents my body'.

Science has corroborated this by a study done on a consecrated host in Lanciano, Italy.


In 1970-'71 and taken up again partly in 1981 there took place a scientific investigation by the most illustrious scientist Prof. Odoardo Linoli, eminent Professor in Anatomy and Pathological Histology and in Chemistry and Clinical Microscopy. He was assisted by Prof. Ruggero Bertelli of the University of Siena.

The analyses were conducted with absolute and unquestionable scientific precision and they were documented with a series of microscopic photographs.
These analyses sustained the following conclusions:

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19 posted on 01/19/2010 9:59:18 AM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer

You can believe whatever you want. A “study” done 30 or 40 years ago can hardly be considered scientific proof, give me a break. According to this doctrine, ANY eucharist taken from any of the millions of masses performed every day in the world should be able to prove this, why aren’t they? I remember the rumors in Catholic grade school about someone taking the host out of their mouth and hiding it in their pocket. When they got home they stuck a pin in it and BLOOD came out!!! Scary to kids, but a myth only.

It is symbolic, not a real physical change. BTW, I am O negative. Any idea what the Rh factor of the “scientific” study blood type was? I should have antibodies against an AB positive blood as many times as I received communion, and I don’t. Why such stubborness on such a strange assertion?


20 posted on 01/19/2010 1:25:11 PM PST by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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