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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Well said. The divinity of Jesus, the Christ, inheres in him because of his co-equal sharing of the divine godhead, and does not in any sense depend upon or flow from the mortal woman through whose womb he was made incarnate. This heresy is part of a campaign to elevate Mary to the status of co-redemptrix, absent any scriptural authority for so doing.


20 posted on 01/02/2010 4:03:04 PM PST by Elsiejay (.)
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To: Elsiejay

Well said..you Catholic hater /sarcasm


24 posted on 01/02/2010 4:07:00 PM PST by pburgh01
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To: Elsiejay

My enemy is tyranny over the mind of man, no matter what the source.


26 posted on 01/02/2010 4:10:53 PM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: Elsiejay

My enemy is tyranny over the mind of man, no matter what the source.


27 posted on 01/02/2010 4:11:03 PM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: Elsiejay

The campaign to elevate Mary was once intended to compete to fill the niche of ancient female goddesses (Diana/Artemis, Athena/Minerva, Ceres/Demeter, Hecate, Juno/Hera). Modern attempts are intended to provide a heresy that corresponds with the feminist heresy.

Anything to keep the donations flowing in, and provide secular tax breaks.


29 posted on 01/02/2010 4:18:36 PM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: Elsiejay; aMorePerfectUnion
The divinity of Jesus, the Christ, inheres in him because of his co-equal sharing of the divine godhead, and does not in any sense depend upon or flow from the mortal woman through whose womb he was made incarnate. This heresy is part of a campaign to elevate Mary to the status of co-redemptrix, absent any scriptural authority for so doing.

On the contrary. You are both subscribing to the Heresy of Nestorianism - the error that Jesus is two distinct persons. The heresy is named after Nestorius, who was born in Syria and died in 451 AD, who advocated this doctrine. Nestorius was a monk who became the Patriarch of Constantinople and he repudiated the Marian title "Mother of God." He held that Mary was the mother of Christ only in respect to His humanity. The council of Ephesus was convened in 431 to address the issue and pronounced that Jesus was one person in two distinct and inseparable natures: divine and human.

Nestorius was deposed as Patriarch and sent to Antioch, then Arabia, and then Egypt. Nestorianism survived until around 1300.

The problem with Nestorianism is that it threatens the atonement. If Jesus is two persons, then which one died on the cross? If it was the "human person" then the atonement is not of divine quality and thereby insufficient to cleanse us of our sins.

31 posted on 01/02/2010 4:22:16 PM PST by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone" - Benedict XVI)
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To: Elsiejay

What are Mary’s last words in the Bible?

“Do whatever HE tells you.”

She fades out the Bible there after the Wedding at Cana. Christ is the center of the Catholic faith.


35 posted on 01/02/2010 4:29:28 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Elsiejay

Even Mary says in Luke 1:46,47 that she’s in need of a savior. She gave birth to Jesus but that doesn’t make her divine; blessed and very special, yes. The Holy Ghost covered Mary with a “shadow” in Luke 1:35. What this shadow was or is or does is just the mystery of God. Not everything can be or should be explained to us lest we take that explanation and bastardize it and make it mean what WE want it to mean. Peace to everyone and love for all good things.


38 posted on 01/02/2010 4:44:22 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (doctrine matters)
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To: Elsiejay

“This heresy is part of a campaign to elevate Mary to the status of co-redemptrix, absent any scriptural authority for so doing.”

Co-redemptrix doesn’t mean what you think it means. It’s no different than co-worker. Mary is the co-redemptrix because she bore Christ, and thus worked alongside Christ to bring about the redemption of mankind.


53 posted on 01/02/2010 5:40:27 PM PST by BenKenobi
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To: Elsiejay
This heresy is part of a campaign to elevate Mary to the status of co-redemptrix, absent any scriptural authority for so doing.

Is this the conspiracy that Hilary Clinton was talking about, or is this another one. :-)

61 posted on 01/02/2010 6:01:57 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Happy New Year!)
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To: Elsiejay

You wrote:

“This heresy is part of a campaign to elevate Mary to the status of co-redemptrix, absent any scriptural authority for so doing.”

Care to document that theory there, chief? After all the ‘campaign’ would have to be almost 1500 years old now.


67 posted on 01/02/2010 6:15:28 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Elsiejay
This faulty view is what made the “ doctrine
of the Immaculate Conception” necessary.
Contrary to many people's understanding ( even
some Roman Catholics) that means that MARY was
conceived without sin ; an entirely unscriptural
and illogical proposition.
134 posted on 01/03/2010 10:44:12 AM PST by Bainbridge
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