I try not to comment on religious threads, but I’m sure ZC will engage you. I obviously don’t accept the Christian concept of original sin, and don’t know what the Rabbi’s case is regarding Christians. While I understand the concept if the conclusion is that support for Israel shouldn’t be accepted from Christians I doubt I would agree, but if it’s on the web a link might be interesting to read. IMO that’s a secular rather than religious issue.
SJackson, Israel needs all the friends it can get. The mistrust comes in the prosletyzing. That is what gets to some Jews. I don’t care about it for myself. And I seriously wonder why adults would worry about it either. If you are secure in your belief, good on ya. But if you can be so easily swayed from it, then what good are ya? That’s the gist of it.
If you want to protect your children, be a strong parent and teach them the way they should go. If they later choose differently, they were not persuaded.
If you did not teach them, someone else will, and THAT is on you.
If Judaism could be boiled down to ONE word, it would be LEARN. Never stop questioning and never stop learning. That is why the Kabbalah will never be finished. There is ALWAYS something to learn.
PS. I try not to comment on religious threads either. I’m too stubborn and headstrong.
Please forgive this tardy reply.
The purpose of my vanity was not a political issue at all (Fundamentalist chr*stians who support Israel), but to deal with the fact that such people find themselves partly in two religions and fully belonging to neither. As a result they have a deep and sincere love for Jews and Israel that even apparently the most "fundamentalist" Orthodox Jew simply cannot understand or appreciate. For this reason I sought, as best as my poor ability could allow, to explain Fundamentalist Protestant theology to Orthodox Jews so they would see that FP's "harsh" views about the damnation of all "non-chr*stians" ("non-chr*stians" meaning all those who never received the "vaccination," not necessarily those who practice chr*stianity or are part of chr*stian culture) are actually, from their perspective, quite logical and held without a shred of hatred for anyone.
I no longer share the chr*stian religious views of Fundamentalist Protestants but ethnoculturally I shall always be one of them, and I am very hurt and disappointed that the FP understanding of a "lost" world out of which only certain individuals (those who take advantage of the "vaccination") are saved is so misunderstood by even the most traditional Orthodox Jews as "hatred."
Unfortunately, even the most right wing Orthodox Jews sound like liberals when they talk about chr*stianity. Let's face it, for right wing Jews, chr*stianity is communism (the Ultimate Enemy). The obsession with chr*stian "intolerance" and its soteriology--however "harsh" it may be--is standing in the way of cooperation between the two groups on important common goals.
Having once been a Fundamentalist Protestant I simply do not and cannot share the antipathy Jews have for their religious beliefs. (They think I'm going to "hell?" Big whoop!) That Orthodox Jews who are even to the Right of Fundamentalist Protestants on some issues (the truth of midrashim, geocentrism, etc.) continue to line up with the Left because of an antipathy to chr*stian soteriology is short-sighted doing incredible damage to our common causes.
Wake up, Israel. It doesn't matter where members of false religions think you're going after you die. Stop obsessing on it while the world is burning down around you. That is my message. I am sorry if I failed to communicate it properly.