Good, with the evangelicals going limp on global warming and now this, maybe we'll get a few more converted to Catholicism.
1 posted on
09/01/2009 10:44:10 PM PDT by
pissant
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To: pissant
I still have and read my King James version!
2 posted on
09/01/2009 10:45:37 PM PDT by
HuntsvilleTxVeteran
((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
To: pissant
Or maybe those who are evangelicals, and hold to an inerrant Bible will rise up to teach our straying brethren the Truth.
3 posted on
09/01/2009 10:45:51 PM PDT by
LiteKeeper
(When do the impeachment proceedings begin?)
To: pissant
5 posted on
09/01/2009 10:48:01 PM PDT by
ICE-FLYER
(God bless and keep the United States of America)
To: pissant; LiteKeeper
Now, now, next thing you know, someone’s gonna start nailing Bible versions to church doors.
6 posted on
09/01/2009 10:48:47 PM PDT by
Talisker
(When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
To: pissant
It’s more likely there is a vibrant Southern Baptist presence in American locales where the Romish are looey.
Also you know nothing about the bible biz. The NIV simply marginalizes itself by forcing these politically correct revision. NASB and NKJV are both quite popular among modern readers who want great accuracy.
7 posted on
09/01/2009 10:49:45 PM PDT by
HiTech RedNeck
(Proud Sarah-Bot.)
To: pissant
No thanks. Christianity is good enough for me.
To: pissant
What a miniscule market! The people interested in political correctness aren’t interested in reading Bibles anyway.
9 posted on
09/01/2009 10:50:15 PM PDT by
Paleo Conservative
(I wonder why Solomon Ortiz (TX-27) is so afraid of talking with his constituents?)
To: pissant
The New International Version, the Bible of choice for conservative evangelicals
First off, I do not know any conservative evangelicals who consider the NIV as good translation.
Like myself, most conservatives use the New American Standard Bible, or the New King James Version. But the NIV has been put on the back shelf with other questionable translations as will be thieir newest heretical version of the Scriptures.
13 posted on
09/01/2009 10:55:39 PM PDT by
OneVike
(Just a Christian waiting to go home)
To: pissant
Good, with the evangelicals going limp on global warming and now this, maybe we'll get a few more converted to Catholicism. Catholics voted 54% for Obama, Evangelicals voted about 75 to 80% against him. I don't think that we need more Catholic voters.
14 posted on
09/01/2009 10:59:18 PM PDT by
ansel12
(Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
To: pissant
F=MA
F=force
M=mass
A=audacity
16 posted on
09/01/2009 11:01:53 PM PDT by
Old Professer
(The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
To: pissant
The Southern Baptist Convention passed a resolution saying the edition has gone beyond acceptable translation standards.ahh... a voice of reason.
I have never liked the NIV... at all. Back in the 80s, my Hebrew professor in seminary called it the "Nearly Inspired Version" because the translation is inaccurate in so many places. In its attempt to supply "dynamic equivalents" in its translation, it succumbs to the theological biases of the "translators." I put "translators" in quotes because they are not true translators since they imposed their own views upon the text.
I'm not a KJV-only nut, but the KJV in its 400 year-old style of English is STILL a better translation than the NIV, and most other translations as well. For those who are not able to translate the original languages for themselves, the KJV is still the translation of choice for those who are serious about studying God's holy, inspired word.
21 posted on
09/01/2009 11:09:31 PM PDT by
Guyin4Os
(My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
To: pissant
Sons is indicative of sex, family structure, traditional marriage and Judeo-Christian tradition and faith. The use of ‘children’, out of context from history, culture and tradition, delegitimizes all of the former from the new Biblical context desired.
There have been many revisions of the Bible, and, this, apparently, is the new socialist version, and the first one to omit ‘Sons’, and probably even subject to more frequent revision, if this one is accepted. With a socialist view, God, Yahweh, could become ‘IT’ in the not too far future, if not eliminated altogether by socially directed revisionists. A better result would ensue if the fever of focus for revision was redirected on Jihad related texts.
22 posted on
09/01/2009 11:09:52 PM PDT by
givemELL
(Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
To: pissant
“and that speaks to its readers in a language they can understand”
u r 2 b saved.
To: pissant; All
The top-selling Bible in North America will undergo its first revision in 25 yearsFlame away but the internet wasn't available to scholars for the current NIV version. Obviously, references to humans using gender specific terms like "man" amd "sons" should be changed where appropriate to "humans".
For those relying on the King James, I'm sorry but it has many errors.
27 posted on
09/01/2009 11:12:00 PM PDT by
fso301
To: pissant
I can’t speak for all the changes in this text, but in many instances “children” really is more correct than “sons” according to the Hebrew text. In mixed or unknown gender groups, the masculine gender is always used.
To: pissant
The Word of God is diminished by the acts of man.
47 posted on
09/01/2009 11:40:49 PM PDT by
JimBianchi11
(The 2A is the cornerstone of our free society. Those that don't support it, oppose it.)
To: pissant
A gender neutral bible.
God created Man and Woman.
The devil has been peeved ever since.
Gene Robinson must be pleased.
48 posted on
09/01/2009 11:43:15 PM PDT by
DaveTesla
(You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
To: pissant
i fell in love with young's literal translation after reading the first chapter of genesis. se how beautifulthe words are. this is where if first saw the seperation, collection and actual creation. i think it is a beatiful translation. can't spell check. 1 In the beginning of Gods preparing the heavens and the earth 2the earth hath existed waste and void, and darkness is on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God fluttering on the face of the waters. 3 And God saith, Let light be; and light is. 4And God seeth the light that it is good, and God separateth between the light and the darkness, 5and God calleth to the light Day, and to the darkness He hath called Night; and there is an evening, and there is a morningday one. 6 And God saith, Let an expanse be in the midst of the waters, and let it be separating between waters and waters. 7And God maketh the expanse, and it separateth between the waters which are under the expanse, and the waters which are above the expanse: and it is so. 8And God calleth to the expanse Heavens; and there is an evening, and there is a morningday second. 9 And God saith, Let the waters under the heavens be collected unto one place, and let the dry land be seen: and it is so. 10And God calleth to the dry land Earth, and to the collection of the waters He hath called Seas; and God seeth that it is good. 11And God saith, Let the earth yield tender grass, herb sowing seed, fruit-tree (whose seed is in itself) making fruit after its kind, on the earth: and it is so. 12And the earth bringeth forth tender grass, herb sowing seed after its kind, and tree making fruit (whose seed is in itself) after its kind; and God seeth that it is good; 13and there is an evening, and there is a morningday third. Young, Robert: Young's Literal Translation. Oak Harbor : Logos Research Systems, 1997, S. Ge 1:1
To: pissant
Yes, except to put the word children where God has said “sons” is to water down the meaning of the verses...
to be a child of god is one thinbg
Buit to be a son means you have a high place in God’s house..
authority, an inheritance of everything He has etc...
It is not important to be gender percific...
It is important to be accurate...
We know and understand that woman have just as much right to be sons of God as men have...
Jesus died to give us all salvation and a place in God...
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the SONS of God, even to them that believe on his name: John 1:12
Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the SONS of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew Him not. 1 John 3:1
Beloved, now are we the SONS of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when He shall appear, we shall be like Him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2
In those verses the word “sons” in the Greek is teknon, meaning a child (as produced) child, son, daughter..
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the SONS of God. Romans 8:14
And because you are SONS, God has sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father Galations 4:6
In those two verses the word “sons” in the Greek is huios, meaning a “son” its used very widely (even for animals) used very wsidely of immediate, remote or figurative kinship, a son, a foal, a child..
To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of SONS. Galations 4:5
Here the word for “sons” in the Greek is huiothesia, meaning the placing of a son ie adoption, (figratively Christian sonship in respect to God)adoption (of children, of sons)
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