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Did Jesus Reveal to us the name of the Anti-Christ?

Posted on 07/28/2009 9:36:23 PM PDT by Blogger

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To: Quix
I still think he’s ‘just’ a forerunner.

I’ve been wrong, before.

OK... I gotta ask. Who exactly did you peg as "just a forerunner" that did turn out to be the antichrist?

181 posted on 07/29/2009 9:34:46 PM PDT by 70times7 (What is Obama's hurry? Is he anxious to get to his cigarette? America wants some foreplay first.)
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To: 70times7

Sorry for my miscommunicating.

I think you realize, thought, that I was saying . . .

I’ve been wrong in my life more than a time or two about a variety of things.

Therefore, I could well be wrong about this one. However, I still do not believe OThuga is the AC.

LOL.


182 posted on 07/29/2009 9:37:28 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Blogger

From David Icke...

Did Jesus Claim Barack Obama is SATAN?

In Luke 10:18 Jesus states,

“I beheld Satan as Lightning fall from Heaven.”

How does a Jewish Rabbi, which Jesus is credited with being (John 1:38), say in HEBREW, that Satan is like LIGHTNING from heaven?

Barack, also transliterated as Baraq in Hebrew, is LIGHTNING (Strongs Hebrew word 1300). Even in Greek, Barak is LIGHTNING (Strongs Greek word 913) for the name of a person!

The ONLY WAY, a Jewish Rabbi can say in Hebrew that SATAN is LIGHTNING is, SATAN BARACK!

Interestingly, the “Greek” verse of Luke 10:18 does not contain an actual Greek word to translate into “Fall”. The Greek word translated as “Fall” appears to be a rare form of a Hebrew word for “transgressions”. So, the words of Jesus in this verse probably refer to heavenly transgressions.

In Hebrew poetry from the dominant book that the New Testament draws upon, to validate the “works” of Jesus as “proof” of poetic prophecy, the use of BAMA (Strongs Hebrew word 1116) is used to refer to the “heights” of heaven. That book is Isaiah. Christian scholars would agree, that much of the New Testament refers directly to passages of Isaiah’s poetry.

Isaiah is also the source of origin for the Christian concept of “Satan” or “Lucifer” Isaiah 14:12.

In the verses of Isaiah that refer directly to “Lucifer” in King James translations of Isaiah, sure enough, BAMA (Strongs Hebrew word 1116) is used to refer to the “Heights” of Heaven (Isaiah 14:14)!

In Hebrew, the letter vau is transliterated as an “O” or “U”. It is primarily used as a conjunction to join concepts together. So, to “join” in Hebrew poetry the concept of lightning (Barack) and a high place like heaven or the “Heights of Heaven”, the letter “O” or Hebrew vau would be used. Bama is most commonly used to refer to a high sacred place, as well as to the “Heights” of the heavens or clouds.

So, Barack O Bama in Hebrew poetry, similar to the style of Isaiah, would translate literally as Lightning and the “Heights” of the sky or heaven!

Satan is Satan in Hebrew. So the Jesus “Prophecy” of Luke 10:18, if spoken actually by a Jewish Rabbi influenced by the poetry of Isaiah, would have said the verse Luke 10:18 as ;

Satan Barack O Bama

That would be Hebrew for Satan is Lightning (Barack) and the heights (BAMA) of heaven or the sky.

Since the oldest copy of Luke 10:18 is recorded in Greek, the only word we need to add, is the incorrectly translated word for a “fall”. Thus far, Christian scholars claim the word translated as “fall” is Strongs Greek 4098, Pipto. In Luke 10:18, in GREEK, Pipto is not used. The word is pesouta. This is probably a Greek phonetic usage of the Hebrew word. Like Satan is Hebrew and translated phonetically as a Hebrew word, it seems pesouta, a Hebrew word, was not correctly translated, since a Greek word NOT IN THE GREEK TEXT for “fall” is credited by scholars as being in the Satan is Barack (Lightning) verse.

The Hebrew root of pesouta is a word normally used to refer to a “transgression” or a sin.

Pesa (Strongs Hebrew word 6588) refers to a revolt, rebellion or sin, a “transgression”. This is the exact concept normally associated with “Satan” in Christian theology.

So, Luke 10:18 is correctly translated as;

“Satan is like Lightning (Barack) and the Highest (Bama) heavenly rebellion/sin/transgression!!

While Christians consider “Sin” a humanly “fall” from Grace, the Greek word for a “fall” is not used in Luke 10:18.

Interestingly, we now have a political leader on the threshold of obtaining control of the largest arsenal of NUCLEAR WARHEADS on this planet!

If you were SATAN, or Barack (Hebrew for Lightning), what army would you try to take control of, so you could unleash 10,000 NUKES upon mankind and DESTROY what he hates (Humanity)?

That army, is the army of the United States of America!

Interestingly, another world figure named Barack, is already in control of over 100 NUKES! The minister of Defense of Israel is named Barack!

The New Testament records Jesus saying LIGHTNING, or Barack in Hebrew, only three times! Luke 10:18 is clear. SATAN is BARACK or Lightning!

In Matthew 24:27, Jesus explains how his “coming” will be connected to LIGHTNING (Barack)!

Matt 24:27
“For as the Lightning (Barack) cometh out of the east and shineth unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be!”

The Greek word translated as “For” in this verse is gar (Strongs Greek word 1063). This word can also be translated as SEEING or WHEN. So seeing Barack or when Barack comes from the east and shines unto the west is a TIMING EVENT for the “Coming of Jesus”!

Barack Obama grew up in the “East”, in the country of Indonesia! His political career is now about to shine upon the West, the United States!

Can it be, the “Coming of the Son of Man” is nigh?

According to New Testament verses, Lightning or Barack is SATAN and his travels from the East in Indonesia to his accession to the throne of power in the West, the United States, signals the “Coming of the Son of Man”!

In Luke 17:24, Jesus once again uses Lightning (Barack aka SATAN) for a timing prophecy of his “Coming”!

Once again, the Greek word gar (Strongs Greek word 1063) is translated as “for”. However, it is also “seeing” or “when”. So, Luke 17:24 can also be read as:
“Seeing/when lightning (Barack) comes out of Heaven... so shall also the Son of man be in his day!”

So, Jesus used Lightning (Barack in Hebrew) to literally describe SATAN! He then tied his “Coming” to the appearance of “Barack” or Lightning aka SATAN! Many political pundits describe the charisma of Barack Obama as “Messianic”! Perhaps they should read their Bibles closer and see it is really SATANIC CONTROL!

The modern “Jewish” concept of SATAN is not like the Christian concept of SATAN! “Jews” with a traditional “Jewish” view of the Old Testament consider SATAN to be an “accuser” or an “opponent”, not a “fallen angel” out to DESTROY Mankind!

In fact, SATAN is actually two different words in Hebrew. The second SATAN means literally PISS ON THE WALL! In fact, the Hebrew word SIN means the same thing PISS ON THE WALL! (See Strongs Hebrew word 8366 = Satan/Piss/Sin).

The Satan Christians comprehend, is Strongs Hebrew words 7853 and 7854. The ADVERSARY, slanderer, opponent or accuser!

The Christian version of Satan was influenced by the Greek version of the Old Testament, created about 300 B.C., the Greek Septuaginta.

That Greek view of “Satan” probably emanated from contemporary Hebrew thought that was not part of mainstream Judaism. That view, was of the separatist Jews now known as the “Essenes”. The Essenic concept of a Great War in Heaven between the Sons of God was written about in Essenic literature that is not part of traditional Bibles now. However, their poetic prose about the “Great Battle” between the Sons of Light and the Sons of Darkness were rediscovered not long before Barack was born! That discovery was the Dead Sea Scrolls!

Most Christian Scholars now connect Jesus to the group of Essenes that wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls, primarily due to their communal concept of life, devotion to a minimalistic lifestyle almost in poverty, and of course ritual bathing or baptism. The Essenes were also acclaimed “Healers”, in the mode of the “Miracles” of the New Testament!

So, is Satan like what “Jews” are taught? An accuser? Or PISS ON THE WALL? Or, is Satan really LIGHTNING/BARACK who now strolls the earth, walking to and fro, and about to take CONTROL of over 10,000 NUKES?

If SATAN is a real diabolic fallen “angel”, then the rise of Satan/Lightning/Barack is THE SIGN that the COMING of IMMANUEL is nigh...

Written on the 29th day of June 2008 C.E. by ;

The Hon. Dr. Rabbi Sollog Immanuel Adonai-Adoni

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www.sollogs.com

Sollog has authored over 50 books. Most are about religion. He is the founder of Hykal ‘Hayah (Temple of ‘Hayah – THE LORD)


183 posted on 07/29/2009 9:37:50 PM PDT by TaraP (Unless we stand for something, we will fall for everything.")
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To: I got the rope

Yes, Catholics believe the Body and Blood are really present in the Eucharist. But do you understand what ‘real presence’ means to a Catholic, on their terms? That’s the point I was making. If you mount a straw man argument against the theology of the Eucharist, and your apologetics to a Catholic is that they believe ‘God lives in a wafer,’ they will rightfully laugh at your ignorance.


184 posted on 07/29/2009 9:40:24 PM PDT by bdeaner
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To: Quix

Anymore I think none of us know who Obozo truly is
HEBREW
1116. bamah (bam-maw’) 1117 >>

From an unused root (meaning to be high); an elevation — height, high place, wave.


185 posted on 07/29/2009 9:42:17 PM PDT by TaraP (Unless we stand for something, we will fall for everything.")
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To: Blogger; Quix; Star Traveler; Marysecretary
Do they even look human???
186 posted on 07/29/2009 9:45:41 PM PDT by TaraP (Unless we stand for something, we will fall for everything.")
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To: TaraP

Excellent Bible Study. Thanks for posting it!


187 posted on 07/29/2009 9:47:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Petronski
This link may help:

Call on His Name

188 posted on 07/29/2009 9:47:39 PM PDT by 70times7 (What is Obama's hurry? Is he anxious to get to his cigarette? America wants some foreplay first.)
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To: TaraP

Actually, they don’t — and this is the closest proof I’ve had of these “aliens” from outer space... LOL...


189 posted on 07/29/2009 9:52:33 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Quix

Thanks - you provided me a laugh regarding a very serious subject.


190 posted on 07/29/2009 9:53:03 PM PDT by 70times7 (What is Obama's hurry? Is he anxious to get to his cigarette? America wants some foreplay first.)
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To: Star Traveler

LOL..I agree!


191 posted on 07/29/2009 10:00:47 PM PDT by TaraP (Unless we stand for something, we will fall for everything.")
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
He does not look right..
192 posted on 07/29/2009 10:02:42 PM PDT by TaraP (Unless we stand for something, we will fall for everything.")
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To: Elsie

The Deal-a-Meal approach to Scripture leads to confusion and failure.

Good luck with that.


193 posted on 07/29/2009 10:13:44 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: bdeaner

I know exactly what the Roman Catholic Church believes about the Eucharist. I was Catholic once. I know perfectly well what is supposed to occur during the change or transubstantiation of the bread and the wine.

Like Martin Luther I refuse to subject myself to this constant exercise in cognitive dissonance. I choose to believe what the Bible and my Jesus says about the Eucharist. I don’t need any Ecumenical Councils to tell me how I should interpret a few simple scriptures.


194 posted on 07/29/2009 11:48:59 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: TaraP

Thanks.


195 posted on 07/30/2009 12:34:18 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: 70times7

Glad for that.

Thx.


196 posted on 07/30/2009 12:35:55 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Thanks.


197 posted on 07/30/2009 12:37:49 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Elsie

Thanks.
thanks.


198 posted on 07/30/2009 12:38:35 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: TaraP

Thanks much.

Great doc.


199 posted on 07/30/2009 12:41:40 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: I got the rope
You may have a Bible, but I suggest the Catholic Church's teaching on the real presence is correct and consistent with Scripture, whereas your interpretation (whatever it may be) is mistaken.

When Jesus says "This is my body" and "This is my blood" the night before his crucifixion, he meant it. If Jesus had meant to teach Lutheranism, he could have said in a clear way, "This bread contains my body." If he had meant to teach Evangelicalism, he could have said in a clear way, "This bread only represents my body." But he didn't say either. Yet he was clear. In the clearest way he could say it, he said, "This is my body" (Matthew 26:26-28).

A year earlier before the Last Supper, Christ was preaching to His Disciples. Please refer to John 6:26-59 in your Bible, which you have already cited, and let's review it.

First, Jesus tells us what we need to do for God, which is to believe in Him, Jesus. They ask Him for a sign, and He tells them that He is the "bread of life." Here, yes, He is speaking through an analogy, as in "I am the door," "I am the vine." There could be lots of ways to interpret what this means, unless He were to go on an explain the analogy. Happily, He does just that -- He explains the analogy. And what does He say? He says, "This bread is my flesh, which I give for the life of the world." What is the bread of life? His flesh. In case we don't understand whether he means "flesh" in a real, physical, touchable way, he tells us next that it is the same flesh that will be given up on the Cross! He goes on to say that this flesh must be eaten by his followers.

There is no doubt what Christ means. If the flesh we eat for eternal life is meant in only a "figurative way," or "spiritually speaking," then so is the flesh of the crucifixion! Jesus equates the two. Either they are both literal, or they are both figurative.

Jesus taught that in order for us to have eternal life we must "eat his flesh." He repeats this phrase, or its variations, six times. Four of the times, the Greek word used is very graphic; it can be translated "to chew." This word is never used symbolically anywhere in the NT, OT, Septuagint, or any other ancient literature. Jesus makes it clear that the flesh is literal, as the body on the Cross was literal.

Further evidence that Jesus was literal about eating His Flesh: This is the only place in the Gospels where disciples of Jesus left him over a doctrinal issue. This is also the first time we hear of Judas doubting the wisdom of his master. Do you think they were so upset over a metaphor? Of course not. They walked away because, just like Protestants today, they refused to take Him literally. They could not believe Him that they had to eat His flesh to be saved. They thought He had lost His marbles. In droves, they walked away, and eventually they killed Him over it. Only His closest followers remained loyal, and even one of them, Peter, denied Him for a period of time. Are you doubting the Lord as Peter did? As many of the disciples did who left Him because they could not accept His teaching?

In 1 Corinthians 11:23-32, Paul writes, "Whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself."

Now how could one be "guilty" of the Body and Blood of Christ if the service is only a memorial?

Granted, the service is done in remembrance. But it is more than that. We must recognize the bread for what it truly is, "the body of the Lord, or be judged. How much clearer could Paul be than this? There is no textual basis for the Protestant teaching that communion is only a memorial.

Moreover, the early Church believed in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, as is evident in the writings of the early Church Fathers.
200 posted on 07/30/2009 4:17:48 AM PDT by bdeaner
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