Skip to comments.HELL YEAH! Patriot Pastor on Fire!
Posted on 07/06/2009 7:38:33 PM PDT by Liberty Guy 2007
On fire with the Holy Ghost that is. Pastor Steve Anderson, the pastor who was tased and beaten by Border Police on April 14th 2009, lead the Gilbert Arizona TEA Party rally yesterday to ovation and action. His words and demeanor were beyond phenomenal! There is a new body in the Black Robe Regiment today.
If you would like to watch his 7 minute message
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This clown deserved to be tasered. He is a sorry excuse for a Pastor. Can't wait for all the anti-cops on FR to come out and cheer this jerk on.
I don’t know about “perp”. Perhpas the word “Patriot” fits better. Pastor Steve’s analysis of what is going on was spot on in my opinion.
i.e in short unwarranted checkpoints away from the border with an open border free milk and cheese policy in place.
But more importantly, I posted this in the religion section because I think Pastor Steve is hitting on a spiritual issue here.
Search with no warrent is not a lawful order. It is unconstitutional.
Beating someone for standing up for his rights and grinding his face in glass for your police wounded ego is fascist - it is treason. It should be punishable by death. That would get the police state’s attention.
You know what is truly interesting?! There is a POLL link on that blog story page with Pastor Anderson’s TEA Party speech that goes to a DailyKos page and it allows people to discuss the story. Your comments mirror most of theirs on DailyKos. Wow, Pastor Anderson is right about the left right paradigm too. Really, check it out. That is unreal huh?
Well, maybe Pastor Steve had a political point, but his whining victimhood was pathetic. He did everything he could to force a situation, tying traffic up behind him for an hour. And then he claimed he was tasered over and over again, but had only one pair of taser marks on him. He’s a lying publicity hound who maybe didn’t realize how much tasers hurt.
>> Beating someone for standing up for his rights and grinding his face in glass for your police wounded ego is fascist - it is treason. It should be punishable by death. That would get the police states attention. <<
Blocking a U.S. highway isn’t legal. He could have pulled over, and then refused to cooperate. He didn’t. He pulled a vehicular sit-in, and then whined like a baby when law enforcement did what they had to to safely remove him.
There’s a good debate to be had over the constitutionality of these checkpoints. But Pastor Steve didn’t write a column, or file a lawsuit. He blocked a highway with his vehicle.
And another thing: You’re calling for the death penalty for police behavior you consider abusive? Isn’t that just a little, well, tyrranical, itself?
The death penalty for officials who violate the constitutional rights of citizens to the degree we now have the in the US must be considered. What is going to make them stop smashing people’s faces in glass and stop violating our constitutional rights? I would not mind seeing some elected officials frog marched to death or prison for betraying our country and constitution. Maybe they would be inspired to read what they vote on?
The cops stopped him in the middle of the road at an illegal check point and they refused to permit him to go on his way. He stopped. He spoke to them. They demanded to search him and get id from him when he did nothing wrong and they had no warrent.
He did not whine like a baby. He stood up for what was right. You go ahead and sumbit if you want and keep submitting until Obama’s police come after you, right wing extremist. Then we can all call you a whiner when they beat you to a pulp.
Stop and think. Where has the government traveled over the past ten year in shaking down hte whole public anytime they have to enforce the law a class of foreigners (illegals in this case, Islamists every time I go to the airport!) breaking the law!
And now Obama’s regime takes it a step further into Americans being the terrorist threats - his political enemies and vets. Wake up! Sometime we have to say enough.
“Search with no warrent is not a lawful order. It is unconstitutional.”
No. If the Police have reasonable cause to search....in this case the Police Dog got a ‘hit’......then no search warrant is needed.
“Well, maybe Pastor Steve had a political point, but his whining victimhood was pathetic. He did everything he could to force a situation, tying traffic up behind him for an hour. And then he claimed he was tasered over and over again, but had only one pair of taser marks on him. Hes a lying publicity hound who maybe didnt realize how much tasers hurt.”
Thank God some here still have common sense. Good post.
Do not use potty language - or references to potty language - on the Religion Forum.
“Do not use potty language - or references to potty language - on the Religion Forum.”
My apologies. I forgot this was a Religious thread.
Actually, in this case, they are. Customs & Border Protection (of which the Office of Border Patrol is a part) has the right to inspect any person or conveyance at or near the border. A country has the right to inspect anything crossing its borders, for no other reason than the fact that it's crossing the border. That's been the standard US law and international law for literally hundreds of years.
The inland searches are a little more complex, but not much. Let's say you have a swath of border a hundred miles wide with only one decent highway heading north out of it. Common sense dictates placing a checkpoint on that highway. You don't want it too close to the border, or it will simply be bypassed. So, you end up with checkpoints 50, 75 miles inside the US border.
Bottom line, OBP acted within their authority. The good Pastor went out with the intent of starting a confrontation, and he got his wish.
Do you need someone to explain your tag line to you?
>> What is going to make them stop smashing peoples faces in glass and stop violating our constitutional rights? <<
Yeah, that’s right: inspire people to reject police-state tactics by killing everyone you disagree with.
>> The cops stopped him in the middle of the road at an illegal check point and they refused to permit him to go on his way <<
Take it up in a lawsuit after the fact. Or, if you refuse to cooperate, GET OUT OF THE DAMNED HIGHWAY!
>> He stopped. He spoke to them. <<
You’re delusional. He stared straight ahead, refusing to acknowledge them.
>> He did not whine like a baby. He stood up for what was right. <<
He lied. He claimed he was tasered over and over again. He was tasered once. He claimed he was beaten over and over again; he was out of the car in seconds (although it probably seemed like a LONG time to him). He never mentionned that he had stopped up a highway for an hour. You so want a martyr, a victim for your cause, to hate the police, don’t you? Well, this loser isn’t it. Do you think people ought to be able to block a public highway when they want to to make their point?
Lie #1: “I was on my way back from a business trip.”
Truth: He had deliberately provoked the incident, as was proven by the way his car was rigged.
Lie #2: “Let me tell you why: because I told them that the fourth amendment protects [me] from warrantless searches.”
Truth: He was tasered because he used his car to obstruct a heavily travelled highway.
“Why is homeland security attacking my personal security?”
Because you were blocking a major highway, dumbass.
Idiocy: “But we have a government that has institutionalized torture, in spite of the 8th amendment.”
Truth: Now he sounds like a whiny liberal. Sorry, loser, but civil rights don’t apply to enemy combattants. But isn’t it interesting he’s defending the Taleban? Gotta get good media coverage from the left too.
Idiocy: “You don’t have to be an American to be endowed by your creator with a right to freedom.”
Truth: Let’s not forget, he’s referring to enemy combattants who seek to wipe freedom off the face of the earth.
Now we see his real agenda: a broadside, indiscriminate attack on REPUBLICANS. Does he pick out which Republicans are good versus which are bad? No, he attacks ALL Republicans, indiscriminately.
The pastor might do well by studying this doctrine:
The greatness of a nation can only be measured by the virtue of its freedom and the integrity of its authority.
Criminality is the internal enemy to freedom. Law enforcement is the part of establishment designed to apprehend and punish criminals. Once a person is convicted of a crime, they have no rights under the Scriptural view of law until they have served their sentence.
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