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The Place Shazer in the Arabian Peninsula (Book of Mormon) (OPEN)
Jeff Lindsay Book of Mormon Evidences ^ | Jeff Lindsay

Posted on 07/01/2009 9:08:45 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

The Place Shazer in the Arabian Peninsula
 
Many Latter-day Saints have become fascinated about recent discoveries in the Arabian Peninsula that provide strong evidence for the authenticity and plausibility of the Book of Mormon. Much attention has been called to the finding of an ancient burial place with a name very close to Nahom in the only region where it could be, according to the description in First Nephi (and don't forget the recent discovery of altars with inscriptions that further strengthen the case for Nahom as evidence for the Book of Mormon). Much attention has also been directed to the existence of an excellent candidate (actually two excellent candidates) for the place Bountiful on the coast of Oman, "nearly due east" of Nahom, as the Book of Mormon indicates. More recently, many Latter-day Saints have rejoiced over the discovery of an ideal candidate for the Valley of Lemuel and the River Laman near the Red Sea, in an entirely plausible location, as George Potter has reported in his article, "A New Candidate in Arabia for the Valley of Lemuel," Journal of Book of Mormon Studies, Vol. 8, No. 1, 1999, pp. 54-63 (available online at farms.byu.edu). But all these finds are only part of the surprising evidence that is coming from the Arabian Peninsula. Certainly many of the details associated with these finds are impressive, as documented in the book In the Footsteps of Lehi by Warren P. Aston and Michael K. Aston (Salt Lake City, Utah: Deseret Book Comp., 1994; also see Warren P. Aston's article, "The Arabian Bountiful Discovered? Evidence for Nephi's Bountiful"). However, some of the most impressive evidences were just published in 2003 by George Potter and Richard Wellington in their book, Lehi in the Wilderness (Springville, Utah: Cedar Fort, Inc., 2003). One significant issue that has not received enough attention, in my opinion, is their discovery of an excellent candidate for another place in the Arabian Peninsula mentioned by Nephi, the place Shazer.

Shazer is introduced in 1 Nephi chapter 16, verses 11 to 14, as Nephi's group departs from the hospitable Valley of Lemuel:

11 And it came to pass that we did gather together whatsoever things we should carry into the wilderness, and all the remainder of our provisions which the Lord had given unto us; and we did take seed of every kind that we might carry into the wilderness.
12 And it came to pass that we did take our tents and depart into the wilderness, across the river Laman.
13 And it came to pass that we traveled for the space of four days, nearly a south-southeast direction, and we did pitch our tents again; and we did call the name of the place Shazer.
14 And it came to pass that we did take our bows and our arrows, and go forth into the wilderness to slay food for our families; and after we had slain food for our families we did return again to our families in the wilderness, to the place of Shazer. And we did go forth again in the wilderness, following the same direction, keeping in the most fertile parts of the wilderness, which were in the borders near the Red Sea.

Regarding the place name Shazer, Nigel Groom's Dictionary of Arabic Topography and Placenames (Beirut: Libraire du Liban; London: Longman, 1983; as cited by Potter and Wellington, p. 73) contains an entry for a similar word, "shajir," giving the meaning: "A valley or area abounding with trees and shrubs."

Rgarding the name "Shazer," Hugh Nibley wrote:

The first important stop after Lehi's party had left their base camp was at a place they called Shazer. The name is intriguing. The combination shajer is quite common in Palestinian place names; it is a collective meaning "trees," and many Arabs (especially in Egypt) pronounce it shazher. It appears in Thoghret-as-Sajur (the Pass of Trees), which is the ancient Shaghur, written Segor in the sixth century. It may be confused with Shaghur "seepage," which is held to be identical with Shihor, the "black water" of Josh. 19:36. This last takes in western Palestine the form Sozura, suggesting the name of a famous water hole in South Arabia, called Shisur by Thomas and Shisar by Philby. . . . So we have Shihor, Shaghur, Sajur, Saghir, Segor (even Zoar), Shajar, Sozura, Shisur, and Shisar, all connected somehow or other and denoting either seepage--a weak but reliable water supply--or a clump of trees. Whichever one prefers, Lehi's people could hardly have picked a better name for their first suitable stopping place than Shazer. (Lehi in the Desert [Salt Lake City, Utah: Bookcraft, 1952], p. 90.)
In a brief article in the 1992 Encyclopedia of Mormonism, Nibley simply suggested that Shazer is derived from the Arabic shajer, meaning trees or place of trees ("Book of Mormon Near Eastern Background," Encyclopedia of Mormonism, ed. Daniel Ludlow (New York: Macmillan, 1992), p. 188).

The Book of Mormon description of Shazer as a place where Lehi's group would stop and go hunting--obviously a place with water and wildlife where one could stay for a while on a long journey--agrees well with the meaning of the word Shazer. Again, the Book of Mormon text provides a highly plausible name that accurately corresponds to the place described. But is there such a place in the area required by the Book of Mormon?

Before going any further, let us note that Shazer is introduced in a classic Hebraism: "we did call the name of the place Shazer" (1 Nephi 16:13). In normal English we would say that we called the place Shazer or named the place Shazer, but in Hebrew one would say that he called the name of the place, for it is the name that is called, not the place itself. This point is made by John L. Sorenson and Melvin J. Thorne, eds., Rediscovering the Book of Mormon (Salt Lake City and Provo: Deseret Book Co., Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies, 1991), p. 89.

But what of the place itself?

It turns out that there is a perfect fit for Shazer, a large, extensive oasis region with what is said to be the best hunting in all of Arabia, and it is in the right location to have been a four-days' journey south-southeast of the established location for the Valley of Lemuel, near a branch of the ancient frankincense trail and in the region of Arabia near the Red Sea called the Hijaz. This oasis is in the wadi Agharr.

In Lehi in the Wilderness, Potter and Wellington explain that they initially though it would be easy to find Shazer, knowing that Nephi's group traveled 75 miles from the Gulf of Aqaba to the now-located Valley of Lemuel in three days (p. 73). They concluded that the four-day journey from the Valley of Lemuel to Shazer required simply finding an oasis within 100 miles south-southeast of the Valley of Lemuel. However, many challenges stood in their way, and it would require three more field trips in their spare time over the next two years before they knew for sure that they had found Shazer. The following excerpt from Potter and Wellington describes the process of locating Shazer (pages 74,76-78):

Our first attempts at finding Shazer took us to the wells of Bani Murr and an-na'mi, to the east of the valley. Our second trip through the Khuraybah pass proved no more successful. These sites did not fit the description of a valley with trees. In fact, they were down- right inhospitable. . . .

It wasn't until the summer of 2000 that the whereabouts of Shazer became apparent. We realized that Lehi's first camp after the valley had to have been at an authorized halt along the Gaza branch of the Frankincense Trail [the Valley of Lemuel was along this branch]. He would not have been allowed to stop anywhere else, and it had to be at a well site. That spring Richard had been reading the works of Alois Musil, a Bohemian academic and explorer who doubled up as a German spy before World War I. . . . One piece of his record stood out to Richard. Musil recorded, "We . . . crossed the old Pilgrim Road of ar-Rasifijje leading southward to the hills of Kos al-Hnane, where spirits abide. Date palms were still growing in parts of the valley, so that the oasis of Sarma could be extended a full twenty-five kilometers to the east."

Musil described a fertile valley with an oasis over fifteen miles long which was approximately south-southeast from the Valley of Lemuel and was crossed by the old pilgrim route that followed the Gaza arm of the old Frankincense Trail that was an active trade route in Nephi's time. We found Musil's description of Agharr most interesting because on a prior trip to Midian we had been told by the Police General at al-Bada that the best hunting in the entire area was in the mountains of Agharr.

Here at last was the solid clue we had been looking for. . . .

[The authors then discuss evidence from old Arab geographers that the first rest stop after al-Bada'a, also known as Midian, was Al-Aghra', which appears to be the wadi Agharr.] Nephi recorded that their first halting place after leaving the Valley of Lemuel was a place of trees where they stopped to hunt.

Now we had evidence from independent sources that the first rest stop after Midian on the ancient Gaza branch of the Frankincense Trail was in a fertile valley with trees, wadi Agharr, and the surrounding mountains presented the best hunting opportunities along the trail. The next step was to visit Al-Agharr. . . .

From al Bada'a we headed the sixty miles south southeast to wadi Agharr and our potential location for Shazer. To our right the Red Sea glittered in the bright noon light, to our left the mountains of the Hijaz towered over us, purple in the midday sun. Between al Bada'a and wadi Agharr we found a few small scattered farms and a few old wells. Here, where the water table was higher, there may well have been halts anciently where the families could have rested each evening as they headed southeast. As we reached wadi Agharr . . . [t]here was a gap in the mountains where the trail led. Through the gap we could see some palm trees in the wadi. Entering the wadi we were amazed to find an oasis that ran as far as the eye could see both to our left and to our right.

Wadi Agharr was exactly as Musil had described--fields of vegetables and plantations of palms stretching for miles. It is a narrow valley, perhaps one hundred yards across, bounded on each side by high walls stretching up a few hundred feet. "Shazer" was certainly an apt description for this location--a valley with trees, set amid the barren landscape of Midian. Here, after three years of fruitless searching, systematically visiting all the wells in a seventy-five mile radius of wadi Tayyab al Ism, we had finally found Shazer.

[The authors then discuss the presence of "Midianite" archaeological sites in the region, dating to the late second to mid-first millennium B.C., suggesting that the valley was fertile anciently.]

On a later expedition we returned to Shazer and drove up into the mountains in the area we thought the men of Lehi's party would have gone to hunt. We spoke with Bedouins who lived in the upper end of wadi Agharr who told us that Ibex lived in the mountains and they still hunted them there. We were reminded of the words of the Greek Agatharkides of Cnidos who called this area anciently the territory of Bythemani. According to Agatharkides, "The country is full of wild camels, as well as of flocks of deer, gazelles, sheep, mules, and oxen ... and by it dwell the Batmizomaneis who hunt land animals." [Alois Musil, Northern Hijaz--A Topographical Itinerary, published under the patronage of the Czech Academy of Arts and Sciences and of Charles R. Crane, 1926, p. 303] It may have been these very animals that Lehi and his sons went out to hunt.

Here at wadi Agharr is a site that perfectly matches Nephi's Shazer. It probably has the best hunting along the entire Frankincense Trail. It is the first place travelers would have been allowed to stop and pitch tents south of Midian, and as the Book of Mormon states, it is a four days' journey from the Valley of Lemuel (1 Ne. 16:13).

A few small photos of Shazer are available on the photo page at NephiProject.com, but a much more impressive photo of the many palm trees at Shazer is on page 77 of Potter's and Wellington's book, which I urge you to read for yourself.

Potter and Wellington offer much more as they retrace Nephi's journey. For example, after Shazer, Nephi writes that they travelled through the "most fertile parts" (1 Nephi 16:14) and then subsequently through "more fertile parts" that can be understood to be less fertile than the "most fertile" parts. These fertile regions were encountered before they turned due east, which began the most difficult part of their journey. Along the ancient incense trail, continuing just after Shazer until Medina, one encounters a region of the Hijaz called Qura Arabiyyah or "the Arab Villages" which are described by Arabs as the "fertile parts" of the land. It is the part of the trail with the highest concentration of farms and rest stops for caravans, and truly fits the Book of Mormon description. After Medina, there are fewer farms, but still enough fertile places to be called "the more fertile parts." (See pages 82-92 of Potter and Wellington, including excellent photos and a satellite map.) knowledge of these many fertile regions in the midst of the barren Arabian Peninsula was largely hidden from the west until recently. These are rare and unusual places in the Arabian Peninsula, and Joseph simply could not have known of them.

Consider what we have here, with the finding of a plausible candidate for Shazer, and the many other "direct hits" the Book of Mormon provides regarding the Arabian Peninsula. There is no way Joseph could have made up this kind of thing. Nothing in the information available to him in 1829 could have guided him in providing so many correct details of Nephi's voyage to the sea through the Arabian Peninsula. Nothing would have enabled him to describe the Valley of Lemuel, the River of Laman, or the place Shazer, a four-day journey (by camel) south-southeast of the Valley of Lemuel, with the best hunting in the entire area and an abundance of trees, corresponding well with the Semitic meaning of the name Shazer. Joseph knew nothing of Hebrew or Arabic at the time, and the western world knew precious little about the Arabian Peninsula. Attempting to describe details of the voyage would have been foolhardy in the extreme.

If Joseph or anyone else had made up the story, it would have been important to be as vague as possible, not giving specific directions, distances, and descriptions. The only way such an account could be done with any hope of being plausible would be if the account were written by someone who actually made the trip. That's exactly what happened: Nephi was real, his voyage through Arabia was real, and Joseph translated his words through the power of God. Frankly, it's the most plausible explanation for the Book of Mormon.


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1 posted on 07/01/2009 9:08:45 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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To: colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...

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2 posted on 07/01/2009 9:12:26 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (If Tehran offered an unclenched fist, Obama would be shaking a bloody hand and calling it good.)
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To: greyfoxx39

It’s funny that Mormons are looking to the old world for proof of a massive civilization they speak about here in the new world. I wonder if it is because they know there is no archeological evidence for their new world Book of Mormon.


3 posted on 07/01/2009 9:13:30 AM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: colorcountry

Still trying to prove the validity of an angel Moroni and Joseph Smith. Show us the golden plates!!!


4 posted on 07/01/2009 9:16:17 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: colorcountry

Short answer: no
One example, the BoM claims there was a huge battle on the Hill Cumorah in NY. The Mormon church owns the hill and has done extensive excavation in and around it. They have found ZERO evidence of a battle where hundreds of thousands died. Zero evidence of swords, chariots, armor, etc., all of which are described in the account.


5 posted on 07/01/2009 9:17:10 AM PDT by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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To: rovenstinez

I want to know about flax, horses, giraffes, elephants, and rhinos in N. America.


6 posted on 07/01/2009 9:18:41 AM PDT by Andyman (The truth shall make you FReep.)
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To: greyfoxx39
If only Indy was LDS with Tenure at BYU...

He would find the Mormon antiquities...


7 posted on 07/01/2009 9:19:11 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Mitt Romney is a more subtle version of Arlen Specter with better hair...)
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To: ejonesie22

Did you know Indiana Jones actually LIVED in Utah?

http://indianajones.wikia.com/wiki/Utah<


8 posted on 07/01/2009 9:20:57 AM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: greyfoxx39
"the finding of an ancient burial place with a name very close to Nahom "

I thought close only counts in Horseshoes and Hand Grenades?

9 posted on 07/01/2009 9:24:27 AM PDT by gitmogrunt
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To: Guyin4Os
You see the Angel Moroni did not have a Tom Tom Go, so the location is actually wrong.

After some adjustment and the advent of GPS we now know, with absolute certainty, where all the archaeological evidence resides that will prove the BOM true and factual beyond a shadow of a doubt.

In fact I have found this map of the location:

Everyone should go see it, I hear the artifacts are "unreal"...

10 posted on 07/01/2009 9:26:56 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Mitt Romney is a more subtle version of Arlen Specter with better hair...)
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To: colorcountry
And yet the Mormon ruins still lay "hidden" from the world.

You think they would have at least hired him as a contractor..

11 posted on 07/01/2009 9:28:40 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Mitt Romney is a more subtle version of Arlen Specter with better hair...)
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To: ejonesie22; Godzilla; colorcountry
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The mormons are trying SO hard to validate Smith's "Fantasyland"...here are a couple more links I am thinking about posting in reply to a closed thread.

The Discovery of the Valley of Lemuel: No, it wasn't a mirage, Part One

Book of Mormon Explorers Claim Discoveries in the Desert, Part Two

12 posted on 07/01/2009 9:42:47 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (If Tehran offered an unclenched fist, Obama would be shaking a bloody hand and calling it good.)
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To: greyfoxx39
Many Latter-day Saints have become fascinated about recent discoveries in the Arabian Peninsula that provide...

When you're drowning, that straw looks MIGHTY good!

13 posted on 07/01/2009 9:57:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Guyin4Os
. They have found ZERO evidence of a battle where hundreds of thousands died.

Compare to the battle of the Little Big Horn...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4HPIC_enUS310US310&q=+battle+of+the+little+bighorn+archeology&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

14 posted on 07/01/2009 10:01:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39
 

 
            Fiction                or...            Fact?
 
                

 
 
 
 
 
 
"It's better to know nothing than to know what ain't so."
--Josh Billings

15 posted on 07/01/2009 10:02:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39

If you have found the LDS life does not suit you then why not move on to something that does? Why dwell on Mormonism, call yourself anti-Mormon and waste time attacking its beliefs?

Jesse


16 posted on 07/01/2009 10:27:45 AM PDT by Jesse Segovia
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Why dwell on Mormonism, call yourself anti-Mormon and waste time attacking its beliefs?

I don't consider it a waste of time, anymore than it's not considered by mormons to be a "waste of time" for the mormon church to send out 60,000 missionaries a year to knock on doors and "attack" Christian beliefs by claiming to be the "only true church".

It is my belief that "mormon belief" should be closely examined by not only LDS members, but by the general public so that everyone is armed with information whenever that knock on the door comes from a couple of young men in white shirts and books in their hands.

If you care to join in the discussion, feel free to post information that you feel will defend your point of view. That's what "open" threads are for, we aren't afraid to hear the other side.

Your posting history is very sparse, so that point of view is not obvious.

17 posted on 07/01/2009 10:39:07 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (If Tehran offered an unclenched fist, Obama would be shaking a bloody hand and calling it good.)
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To: Andyman

Don’t forget those cureloms!

“Calling star Kolob...calling star Kolob...”


18 posted on 07/01/2009 10:42:36 AM PDT by elcid1970
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To: greyfoxx39
If Joseph or anyone else had made up the story, it would have been important to be as vague as possible, not giving specific directions, distances, and descriptions. The only way such an account could be done with any hope of being plausible would be if the account were written by someone who actually made the trip. That's exactly what happened: Nephi was real, his voyage through Arabia was real, and Joseph translated his words through the power of God. Frankly, it's the most plausible explanation for the Book of Mormon.

This reminds me of the proofs I have seen for the existence of King Arthur. Frankly, the proofs for King Arthur are more compelling than this and I remain very skeptical that Arthur was anything more than a legend.

19 posted on 07/01/2009 10:43:44 AM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: Jesse Segovia; greyfoxx39
If you have found the LDS life does not suit you then why not move on to something that does? Why dwell on Mormonism, call yourself anti-Mormon and waste time attacking its beliefs?

Jesse: If you have found these Lds-focused threads/posts do not suit you, then why not move on to another thread that does? Why dwell on addressing those you consider "anti-Mormons," and thereby label yourself an "anti-anti-Mormon" and waste time mildly challenging others' beliefs?

20 posted on 07/01/2009 10:51:06 AM PDT by Colofornian
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