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Catholic Word of the Day: POLYGENISM, 06-20-09 ^ | 06-20-09 | Fr. John Hardon's Modern Catholic Dictionary

Posted on 06/20/2009 9:34:12 AM PDT by Salvation

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The theory that, since evolution is an established fact, all human beings now on earth do not descend from one human pair (Adam and Eve), but from different original human ancestors. This theory is contrary to the official teaching of the Church, e.g., Pope Pius XII, who declared: "It is unintelligible how such an opinion can be squared with what the sources of revealed truth and the documents of the Magisterium of the Church teach on original sin, which proceeds from sin actually committed by an individual Adam, and which, passed on to all by way of generation, is in everyone as his own" (Humani Generis, 1950, para. 38). (Etym. Latin poly, many + gen, race + ism.)

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1 posted on 06/20/2009 9:34:13 AM PDT by Salvation
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2 posted on 06/20/2009 9:36:23 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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3 posted on 06/20/2009 9:36:51 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation

On to other things; bye for now.

4 posted on 06/20/2009 9:37:36 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation

Oh, boy !

Genesis to me is like sausage: you really don’t want to know what’s in there !!

Let’s see: Adam takes Eve to wife. Two children are born: Cain and Abel. Cain kills Abel, and is forced to hit the road-but-finds a wife,and has a son: Enoch. (Where did the wife come from ?)

Then Adam and Eve have a 3rd son: Seth, who also finds a wife ( Where did she come from ?), and they have a son named Enosh.

The offspring of Enoch and Enosh ALSO find wives (Who knows where ?) and we get all manner of offspring.

Question: Are we all the product of originally incestuous relationships ? (Monogenistic,as it were ?)

Don’t go there ! Just shut up, and put your envelope in the collection basket,because the matter has been divinely revealed and is therefore closed.

5 posted on 06/20/2009 11:17:35 AM PDT by mrmeangenes
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To: mrmeangenes
No, it isn't just throw the envelope in and shut up.
It requires some thought.
Why put a mark on Cain if it was only mumsy and dada left?

Or, maybe the ancients weren't such simpletons as we now produce in the American Idol generation. I think they spotted what passes for clever can now miss.

Maybe, if we are trying to reconcile this it would be easiest to think of Descartes’s “I think therefore I am.” Maybe Adam and Eve ate of the tree of Knowledge and were the first true thinking humans. Then, the whole mark of Cain thing works out fine. Doesn't offend evolutionists at all does it?
Also Genesis is the compilation of several literary contributions. It is why it seems to repeat itself. The compilers didn't want to leave anything out they shouldn't so they put it all in.

There. No harm, no foul.

6 posted on 06/20/2009 12:10:58 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: IrishCatholic

“Ah !”, I was told as a lad. “’Tis a mystery !”

7 posted on 06/20/2009 12:20:56 PM PDT by mrmeangenes
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To: mrmeangenes

Genesis 5:4

8 posted on 06/20/2009 5:24:58 PM PDT by magisterium
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To: magisterium

Yep. Read that this morning. It still doesn’t tell me where Cain and Seth’s wives came from.

(Maybe I’ll have a Divine Revelation later on...)

9 posted on 06/20/2009 6:04:12 PM PDT by mrmeangenes
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To: mrmeangenes

Don’t be too cute by half here. Obviously, the first few generations involved what we would consider to be incest. There was no other way around it. Do you think this observation of yours to be some sort of great victory of logic over the Biblical account? Has it not occurred to you that the solution to your conundrum could be this obvious? Or do you think that many dozens of generations of Jews and Christians have been too stupid to even think there was a “problem” here, until you and your fellows discovered a “difficulty” only just now?

I can’t read too much into God’s methodology here, obviously, but does it not seem a simple thing to suppose that the genetic factors that currently lead to legal and instinctive prohibitions against incestuous relationships could have been suspended by an omnipotent God for a certain period? If He could create ex nihilo the entire universe, would it not be a simple matter for Him to do such a thing? Your affected puzzlement is a non-starter.

10 posted on 06/20/2009 6:46:15 PM PDT by magisterium
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To: Salvation

The interesting thing is that science has demonstrate that Polygenism is false. All humans have the same set of ancestors dating back as recently as 5,000 years ago. At least as recently as 60,000 years ago, all human beings are descended from the same man, and from no other man.

11 posted on 06/20/2009 7:46:02 PM PDT by dangus
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To: magisterium

Ask me if I truly care .

Q: Do you truly care about Magesterium’s annoyance ?

A. Not so you could notice it.

Q. Do you have any advice for Magesterium ?

A. When buying conundrums, choose a name brand.

12 posted on 06/20/2009 8:00:44 PM PDT by mrmeangenes
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To: dangus

**science has demonstrate that Polygenism is false. **

That’s why I put a the keyword “heresy” on it. I think I’ll start doing that when these words come up by random.

13 posted on 06/20/2009 9:01:30 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation

Everything you ever wanted to know about Genesis can be found here:

Use the INDEX to search for topics of interest. Topics are listed alphabetically.

Genesis does allow for polygenesis. All the people mentioned in Genesis 10 as descendents of Noah’s 3 sons are Afro-Asiatics. The Afro-Asiatic language groups is one of 16 languages groups that are classified as distinct because they did not “evolve” from a common proto-language.

The first historic person mentioned in Genesis is Nok, the father-in-law of Cain and Seth. His name in Hebrew is Enoch. His name parallels Adam’s name in Psalm 8:4 which reads: “What is man (Enoch) that you are mindful of him, the son of man (ben adam) that you care for him?”

14 posted on 06/21/2009 1:20:52 PM PDT by Jandy on Genesis
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To: mrmeangenes

You inserted yourself into this thread with snide observations that would indicate to a reasonable observer that, really, you have no horse in this race. Don’t be surprised, then, if you get called on it. BTW, if you’re going to use my handle twice in the same post, take a look at it and at least spell it correctly, “mrmenejeans.”

15 posted on 06/21/2009 1:58:53 PM PDT by magisterium
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To: magisterium

One man’s “snide observations” are another’s profession of faith.

There is a very simple answer to the “Genesis riddle”, but I gather you do not wish to explore that subject.

Go in peace.

16 posted on 06/21/2009 2:24:38 PM PDT by mrmeangenes
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