Posted on 06/14/2009 1:53:07 PM PDT by NYer
MIAMI Ex-Catholic priest Alberto Cutie will wed in two weeks, after sparking a scandal when he was photographed nuzzling his girlfriend on a Miami beach, The Miami Herald newspaper said.
The wedding will be held in an Episcopal church here at a private ceremony for which several ex-police have been hired to ensure security, according to sources close to the religious.
Cutie, born in Puerto Rico of Cuban descent, left the Catholic Church after the photos were published and weeks later announced that he was joining the Episcopal Church, for which he has already given his first sermon.
The marriage of Cutie, 40, and the Guatemalan Ruhama Buni Canellis, 35, the divorced mother of a teenage boy, will be officiated by Bishop Leo Frade, head of the Episcopal Diocese of Southeast Florida, according to the daily.
After hiding her love relationship with the priest from the public for the past two years, the Guatemalan woman appeared smiling together with Cutie at the end of May at Miamis Trinity Episcopal Cathedral.
She joined Cutie for a ceremony where Bishop Frade announced that Father Alberto had become a member of the Episcopal Church and wanted to be ordained a priest.
The Episcopal Church does not require priestly celibacy.
The scandal broke out in mid-May when the tabloid TVnotas USA published 25 photos of the couple, in one of which Cutie was snapped putting his hand in Canellis bikini bottom.
Cutie hosted radio and TV programs in the United States and Latin America, and was considered one of the most influential Hispanics in this country.
His photos, seen around the world, again raised the subject of celibacy in the Catholic Church.
Popular reaction in Florida and in the rest of the country among Catholics has been enormous and many have expressed their opinions on whether or not Catholic priests should be required to remain celibate.
May God have mercy on their souls....
So, if he is an Episcopalian priest and gets married, couldn’t he later become a Catholic priest? Or has he burnt that bridge? The Church does allow for married ministers/priests of other religions to become Catholic priests.
In anticipation of the questions, here are the answers.
5 Arguments Against Priestly Celibacy
5 Arguments for Priestly Celibacy
Challenge young men to a religious life that is demanding, countercultural, sacrificial, and loyal to the Holy Father and Catholic teaching. This is the surest way to guarantee a greater number of vocations.
Fundamentalists will tell you that celibacy has no basis in the Bible whatsoever, saying that Christians are called to "Be fruitful and multiply" (Genesis 1:28). This mandate speaks to humanity in general, however, and overlooks numerous passages in the Bible that support the celibate life. In 1 Corinthians, for example, Paul actually seems to prefer the celibate life: "Are you free from a wife? Do not seek marriage. . . . Those who marry will have worldly troubles, and I would spare you that. . . . The unmarried man is anxious about the affairs of the Lord, how to please the Lord; but the married man is anxious about worldly affairs, how to please his wife, and his interests are divided" (7:27-34). This is not to say that all men should be celibate, however; Paul explains that celibacy is a calling for some and not for others by saying, "Each has his own special gift from God, one of one kind and one of another" (7:7).
Jesus Himself speaks of celibacy in Matthew 19:11-12: "Not all can accept this word, but only those to whom it is granted. Some are incapable of marriage because they were born so; some, because they were made so by others; some, because they have renounced marriage for the sake of the kingdom of God. Whoever can accept this ought to accept it." Again, the emphasis is on the special nature of celibacy, one for which not all men are suited, but one that nevertheless gives glory to "the kingdom of God."
Perhaps the best evidence for the scriptural support of celibacy is that Jesus Himself practiced it!
No. He broke his first vow and excommunicated himself when he knelt down before the Episcopal bishop.
I cannot begrudge a man for marrying. God Bless them both. Celibacy may be a worthy goal, but it is not an essential one. As for his premarital activities — that Priests are sinners, like the rest of us, is not a new revelation.
SnakeDoc
As a sacrementaly married man I take offense to that comment.
Excellent post!
My son is entering seminary minor next fall. He has always wanted to be a priest as long as he can remember. I have one son older than him and one son younger than him. My oldest was always interested in girls, since like 13 or 14. He is now 22 and getting married this winter. My youngest, who is almost 16, is now showing an interest in girls/dating. He is attending a theology of the body seminar through our local parish before he is allowed to start dating (as did my oldest). My middle son, while he likes girls, and wouldn’t turn down the opportunity to go to the movies or to dinner with a girl, and fully intends to attend his senior prom next year, has no real desire to date, especially seriously. We just recently had this discussion. He said he is more curious as to what it is like to date or have a girlfriend, than feel it as a need. He likens it to trying bungee jumping, in his mind. He has also stated emphatically that if he had to give up fishing to enter the priesthood, he probably couldn’t do that, but marriage/girls/sex/children, thats fine LOL. My oldest cannot comprehend this.
Anyone who thinks that God does not provide sufficent grace to handle every situation He calls you to is wrong. I have watched it day after day in my own home with my 3 boys. God has provided my oldest with the vocation of marriage, and a woman who is equal to the task. He has provided my middle son the contentment and peace of celibacy, God has given him every gift and grace he needs to be equal to the task. He has provided these gifts for my youngest son as well, he just isn’t sure which of them he is called to as of yet, so he is discerning whether he is called to marriage or religous life and part of that for him is dating.
Perhaps if Father Cutie had realized he was called to marriage and obeyed, and became a deacon, none of this would have happened in the first place. We can only have one vocation in life, either married or single. Most called to be single are called to religious life in some way. Regardless, ALL are called to chastity whether married or single, and Fr. Cutie let his congregation down mightily in this respect. Shame on him. If your priest can hook up, how do you teach your children not to???????
Kind of like King Henry the VIII, if the rules don’t suit him he changes churches....
WHICH he never would’ve done if he hadn’t been caught. They aught to remove him from office not sanctify his behavior with a position of office.
TTIWWP
She’s not unattractive, but nothing special. Wouldn’t give her a second look when it comes to being attractive.
No one begrudges him for leaving the priesthood and marrying. And, you are right, celibacy is not an essential goal. Neither is the issue here. He broke a vow made to God. He understood what that vow was prior to ordination.
No one is suggesting that you are an adulterer. The arguments against priestly celibacy include: Married priests relate better to issues concerning marriage and the family.
The argument against that statement was:
To put it bluntly, one doesn't need to be an adulterer to counsel other adulterers. Priests understand the sacrificial nature and sanctity of marriage in a way that few others do. Who better to counsel a person in the ways of keeping the marital vow of fidelity than one who keeps the vow of celibacy?
My Catholic pastor is from one of the Eastern Churches. His grandfather was a married priest; my pastor, however, intentionally chose the celibate life. It allows him to devote all his attention to his parish community without worrying about the demands that accompany marriage. Why would you take offense at that?
That is between him and the Almighty. Salvation is a glorious thing.
SnakeDoc
Thank you for sharing such a personal testimony of your 3 sons. You have recognized how God calls men to serve through the example of your middle son. My prayers for him and all of you as he enters seminary minor. As Fr. Corapi often reminds us: No priest! No eucharist! We need priests and God, in His great wisdom, calls these men by imbuing in them the graces necessary to pursue this calling. Please keep me apprised of his journey. May God richly bless you for this gift to the Catholic Church.
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Excellent post- thanks!
Oh, this just keeps getting better and better:
“The marriage of Cutie, 40, and the Guatemalan Ruhama Buni Canellis, 35, the divorced mother of a teenage boy, will be officiated by Bishop Leo Frade, head of the Episcopal Diocese of Southeast Florida, according to the daily.”
What? Where’s the Protestant poster who got mad at me because I said Canellis was a bimbo now? Not only was there fornication, but now there’s a strong hint at adultery too. Lovely, just lovely!
Poor choice of words.
Not only has he burnt the bridge he and his bimbo have made a sizable down payment on an extremely unpleasant eternity.
Serious character flaws don’t merit a benediction. Before it’s all said and done Cutie will end being as unfaithful to the divorced bimbo he allowed to seduce him as he has been to Christ.
Poor comprehension on your part.
She should be worried. If he can’t keep his vow with God whats the chances of honoring his marriage vow?
Thanks for your kind thoughts...
Where ignorance is bliss, ‘tis folly to be wise.
I'm sadly amused at people; who whether they be Roman Catholic,and believe in purgatory, or if they be subscribers to that unfortunate segment of Protestantism which cannot be certain of salvation; can be and often are highly certain of another’s eternal damnation.
Will Wallace
well, it appears he didn’t believe in much of anything. And she’s in for an ugly reality, marriage is hard work, and his past behavior shows he jumps ship when things get hard.
Celibacy has nothing to do with Pedophilia. Extremely few, if any, Catholic priests have been guilty of Pedophilia. What priests have been found guilty of is called "Ephebophilia- which is sex with teen age boys. This is because as many have reported, ( Cozzens, Greeley, McBride ) of the significant number of homosexually oriented men in the priesthood. It is possible that a more significant number of married priests might reduce the incidence of Ephebophilia by the homosexually oriented but that is questionable as they tend to form their own culture to which the heterosexuals do not relate. It is hard to argue any relationship between celibacy and pedophilia (or Ephebophilia) other than the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual men in the priesthood.
If one subtracts the foreign imports, there is anything but great numbers of men entering the priesthood. The idea that a married priest is any less capable of service to the Church is an insult to those married in other rites and the married men in Protestant Churches who are "converting Catholics to Christ" away from the Church where they were so poorly instructed because of the shortage of priests. Now if their celibacy is more important than the mission of the Church, then I guess that's OK.
Not at all! In fact, the majority of married priest converts from the Episcopal Church, say they have a better appreciation for the vow of celibacy. Since marriage is the first vow taken, the married priest must place his wife before the parish. Not so for the celibate priests who can and do devote most of their time to the parish community.
A few possible explanation could be drawn from this statement. Not sure what you are getting at. Need to clarify.
My feeling is, the above statement maybe a reflection of our home grown American contraceptive mentality, where a family has an average of something like 1.3 kids. Naturally, giving up a kid to serve the church is tough. Perhaps we need to learn from those backward immigrants about bigger families like we once had and still live a poor but joyful life, and able to give a kid or 2 out of maybe 3 or 4, instead of 1.3
Not sure you are implying that "foreign born" trained priests trained by American seminaries are of inferior quality. You will have to clarify for the discussion. If I simply look at the stats, at my diocesan level, over 50% of seminarians are foreign born, so you are right about the stats. But at the parish level, at least at my parish, 2 out of 3 aspiring seminarians are foreign born, they came here like under 5 years old and, for all intent and purpose, they are like home grown Americans to me.
Indeed.
Take my pastor, he is on the “first to call” list from the county hospital simply because our parish is less than 10 blocks away. The county hospital has a trauma unit and lots of gun shot cases. If he was married, getting the extra calls from the county in the middle of the night more than once a week would be a real drag.
Practically, I cannot see it happening. Is it a possibility? These are the hurdles.
1. His new marriage would be illicit. He’d have to normalize it. When Protestants convert, their marriage needs no normalization. When Catholics defect in order to get married, however, they have a problem.
2. His holy orders are invalidated by his marriage. Anglican priests accepted into the Catholic Church need to have a valid priesthood. That’s normally rare, since they have to establish apostolic succession through their entire lineage of ordination, with every member in the succession being possibly schismatic, but not apostate. In his case, he, himself, invalidated his orders.
3. He’s excommunicated. He’d have to get absolved by his bishop, at least. I think the Vatican needs to be involved, though, because he was a priest.
4. Should he attempt to repent, and be absolved, and un-excommunicated (?!) and his orders somehow found to be valid, his persistence in his current, married state would make it hard to believe sincerity. He’d probably need to get the marriage annulled.
Unfair to whom? Certainly not to the priest who chooses to be celibate. Maybe it is not fair to some of those not religious, and therefore not living in community, who all too frequently become unhappy, bitter old men, who take their frustrations out on their parishioners or on younger priests. An article I was reading today in Fortune Small Business says that 60% of those who leave a company quit a boss rather than quit the company. Did anyone ever ask why the 10,000 American priests who resigned did so - the presumption is marriage, but the reality may be because of the pastor or bishop, or the fear they would end up like some of the old priests they had to deal with. Would be an interesting study. Most good priests are not in the priesthood for themselves but rather for a rightly idealistic desire to serve the people. Many leave, I suspect, not for selfish reasons but because their desire to serve became the obligation to obey, which they would have gladly done in the interest of service but not in the interest if Episcopal control.
If celibacy is unfair it is to the people who are deprived of good priestly service.
There are no hurdles for Cutie. He has been excommunicated.
Father Alberto excommunicated himself by becoming Episcopalian, Miami archbishop says
Gridlock ... pinged you here in response to your comment on the other thread.
I think this is done on a case-by-case basis. I think, in this particular case, the answer will be a firm "no".
“well, it appears he didnt believe in much of anything. And shes in for an ugly reality, marriage is hard work, and his past behavior shows HE JUMPS SHIP WHEN THINGS GET HARD.
Point taken!
My take is, why should catholics settle for second or third best burnt out priests? There are physical limits. We as a prolife group could easily afford to supply a fresh team of celibate priests full time if we so choose. Why shouldn't we go for the best? Why would you settle for less?
Don't get me started by citing protestants. They have a poor track record of going with the lowest common denominator, on many issues.
Without touching the many sound theological reasons why priests should not be permitted to marry, there are endless practical reasons why they shouldn't.
Doctors work in shifts and are not on call every day of the year. Firefighters get mandated time off as well. I grew up best friends with a Methodist minister's daughter, and they saw their dad at night most nights.
Priests do not get that sort of time off. Knowing plenty of doctors and having worked for the Church in the parish office, I can assure you that priests do not get the same sort of down time. Not even close. By 8:00 AM, the priest had already served early mass, visited the school, worked on correspondence, etc.
If priests aren't in church (they celebrate Mass every day, seven days a week) they're taking care of church business, or they're visiting the sick and infirm, or they are teaching RCIA, or they are overseeing events at the local Parochial school(s), or they are doing fund raising, or they are doing pre-marital counseling, or they are counseling parishioners about various issues, or they are taking part in various feast days, or they are in confession, or in training, or they are doing paperwork, or they are preparing for the next Mass, or they are at a funeral, or a wedding, or a baptism, or a death bed or a blessing.
Many times, as we were leaving the parking lot after RCIA (9:30 or 10:00 at night) the priest would get in his car to go to the hospital or a private home for prayers. And he'd be at Mass again early the next morning.
With all due respect to them, priests would make terrible husbands as they would be totally unable to put their earthly family first and do the job God invited them to do.
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