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Why the closing of car dealers matters to Christians
Live Prayer ^ | 5/19/09 | Bill Keller

Posted on 05/19/2009 6:49:26 AM PDT by truthandlife

Why the closing of car dealers matters to Christians! I am sure most people don't fully appreciate what is really happening with the closing of nearly 2,000 auto dealerships around the country. THIS IS A HUGE DEAL AND PEOPLE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION!!! The reason this is a big deal is because these are vibrant, active, PROFITABLE businesses that are only being closed because King Obama is forcing the auto makers to close them!!!

At first glance, this may seem impossible. After all, the goal of the government is to stimulate business, not shut it down. However, now that the government is dictating to the auto makers on how to operate their businesses, they are directly responsible for this closure of nearly 2,000 dealerships. Most of these dealerships are very successful businesses and have been stable forces in their communities for decades. They employ hundreds of people and dozens of vendors have their business directly tied to these dealerships.

So the question has to be, why? The answer is the government is not as interested in businesses succeeding as they are in their control over entire sectors of the economy. They have virtually taken over the banking and financial sector, the real-estate sector, and now the auto sector. While not officially being in control of any of these industries, the reality is they have TOTAL CONTROL!

The next three sectors the government is openly targeting are energy, education, and health care. Watch over the coming months as the government takes a huge role in all three of these industries. Once that happens, the media is one of the two remaining major sectors for the government to control, and the fact is, the bulk of the media is already carrying the water for the Obama administration.

What is the last sector? RELIGION! Please, don't be lulled to sleep that this administration does not want to control religion as well. President Obama made a huge effort to take control of the religious tone and conversation in the nation during his Presidential run. Once in the White House, he has continued that quest. Why were people so surprised he kept President Bush's Faith Based Office? Simple. It gives the government the financial lever to control those organizations who get government money!

However, Obama has much larger aspirations when it comes to religion. He has been building a solid coalition over the years of Christian leaders who have sold out the faith to do business with the world like Rick Warren, other liberal "Christians" like the President of Notre Dame, as well as those who represent other faiths. It is a mini version of what the world will experience when the anti-Christ comes to power and establishes a one-world religion. His speech at Notre Dame Sunday was very telling of his mindset as he looks to control the religious tone and conversation in this nation.

Oh, there will still be "freedom of religion," but those who are dogmatic and not playing the ecumenical game of compromise, will be targeted as purveyors of hate speech and a danger to the nation. As long as you compromise the Truths of the Bible, stay in your church or in the ineffective Christian media, and don't challenge the governments anti-Biblical positions on every issue, you will be fine.

Whether you understand it or not, there is an unGodly king on the throne who like Ahab, is going to make life miserable for any true prophet of God who calls the people to repentance and to turn back to God and His Truth. Like the wicked kings of Israel, they will control the priests of the day with power and money, but there will be those few God raises up who care less about the temporal things of this world, but only in fulfilling God's call on their life at this critical moment in human history with the soul of this nation hanging in the balance!

I love you and care about you so much. Why does the fact that 1,900 car dealers, most vibrant successful businesses, were given pink slips last week matter to Christians? It is because the government is looking to control all major sectors of our nation's daily life, INCLUDING RELIGION! There will come a day very soon, sooner than most think, when you will remember these words.

This is why I am pushing so hard to bring together true Believers in Jesus Christ to help lead this nation back to God and to His Truth as quickly as possible. We simply don't have much time left. The freedoms we have taken for granted are soon going to be gone. Our ability to challenge the government and effect any real change in our culture is fading fast. There is precious time left.

I can only encourage you today. God has raised up Liveprayer for this moment in human history. God gave me the vision for the Jonah Project last July. It is in place, we are adding people daily, and now is your opportunity to take a real stand for Christ. God is calling you today, wants to use you today to help bring revival to this nation. yes, eventfully we will be judged for our sins and wickedness, but I believe we can stay God's hand of judgment just like Nineveh did.

Over 120,000 souls were saved in Nineveh because they turned to God! I believe that we can see millions repent and turn to God in the wake of this revival. You can keep living your life, taking care of yourself, or you can sacrifice your life and allow God to use you for His glory. When you come to the end of your life, it is not what you did for yourself that will matter, but what you did for God. Read that again. When you come to the end of your life, it is not what you did for yourself that will matter, but what you did for God.

Please pray today about signing up and being part of the Jonah Project, God's vehicle to lead this nation back to Himself, to His Truth, and millions to faith in Christ. Go to: www.liveprayer.com/jonah and watch the 7-minute vision video, get sign up. Also, get this Devotional to everyone that you know and share the link to the Jonah Project with every person you can communicate with. This is the answer for this nation and for millions of people who are looking for answers and hope in their life. The battle for the souls of this nation is not lost yet, and by turning back to God and His Truth it can be won!!!

In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ, Bill Keller


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KEYWORDS: cardealers; christians; obama; persecution
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1 posted on 05/19/2009 6:49:26 AM PDT by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife

“God gave me the vision for the Jonah Project last July.”

Charlatan.


2 posted on 05/19/2009 6:53:59 AM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.

And why would you call him a Charlatan?


3 posted on 05/19/2009 6:55:45 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: truthandlife
Oh, there will still be "freedom of religion," but those who are dogmatic and not playing the ecumenical game of compromise, will be targeted as purveyors of hate speech and a danger to the nation. As long as you compromise the Truths of the Bible, stay in your church or in the ineffective Christian media, and don't challenge the governments anti-Biblical positions on every issue, you will be fine.

Do anything else and, in Obamaland, you will soon become a target.

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4 posted on 05/19/2009 6:56:18 AM PDT by newheart (Obama. We kind of underestimated the creepiness.)
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To: truthandlife

“After all, the goal of the government is to stimulate business,......”

Disagree. IMO the goal of Government includes staying out of business’s way.

“.......the government is looking to control all major sectors of our nation’s daily life, INCLUDING RELIGION!”

Agree.


5 posted on 05/19/2009 7:01:37 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: truthandlife

Go right ahead and follow, then.


6 posted on 05/19/2009 7:02:11 AM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: truthandlife
God gave me the vision for the Jonah Project last July.

C'mon T&L, don't post skreeds from whack-jobs like this.

7 posted on 05/19/2009 7:02:54 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: Buck W.
“God gave me the vision for the Jonah Project last July.”

Charlatan.

Not sure where you get this idea. The doctrinal statements on the guy's website are Scriptural, and his claim that the vision he has for a particular ministry was given by God is no different from the claims of any respectable pastor regarding the vision God has given him for the ministry of a particular church body.

8 posted on 05/19/2009 7:02:58 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

I have been keeping up with this guy a while and his message is consistent by the Word of God. I am as skeptical as anyone who has a ministry these days and seeing their motives but I have no disagreements with this guys doctrine.


9 posted on 05/19/2009 7:05:46 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: truthandlife
God gave me the vision for the Jonah Project last July.

Hebrews 1:1 negates his sense of "doctrine".

10 posted on 05/19/2009 7:10:45 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: truthandlife

The article said — Over 120,000 souls were saved in Nineveh because they turned to God! I believe that we can see millions repent and turn to God in the wake of this revival. You can keep living your life, taking care of yourself, or you can sacrifice your life and allow God to use you for His glory. When you come to the end of your life, it is not what you did for yourself that will matter, but what you did for God. Read that again. When you come to the end of your life, it is not what you did for yourself that will matter, but what you did for God.

I can’t say anything *for* this guy..., but I can simply say something about national repentance, and that’s about all...

The following is a “national repentence” thread.


Abraham Lincoln’s Word to the United States Today
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2232720/posts

A Proclamation.

Whereas, the Senate of the United States, devoutly recognizing the Supreme Authority and just Government of Almighty God, in all the affairs of men and of nations, has, by a resolution, requested the President to designate and set apart a day for National prayer and humiliation.

And whereas it is the duty of nations as well as of men, to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions, in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon; and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord.

And, insomuch as we know that, by His divine law, nations like individuals are subjected to punishments and chastisements in this world, may we not justly fear that the awful calamity of economic and national collapse, which now desolates the land, may be but a punishment, inflicted upon us, for our presumptuous sins, to the needful end of our national reformation as a whole People? We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of Heaven. We have been preserved, these many years, in peace and prosperity. We have grown in numbers, wealth and power, as no other nation has ever grown. But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace, and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us; and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us!

It behooves us then, to humble ourselves before the offended Power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and forgiveness.

Now, therefore, in compliance with the request, and fully concurring in the views of the Senate, I do, by this my proclamation, designate and set apart Thursday, the 30th. day of July, 2009, as a day of national humiliation, fasting and prayer. And I do hereby request all the People to abstain, on that day, from their ordinary secular pursuits, and to unite, at their several places of public worship and their respective homes, in keeping the day holy to the Lord, and devoted to the humble discharge of the religious duties proper to that solemn occasion.

All this being done, in sincerity and truth, let us then rest humbly in the hope authorized by the Divine teachings, that the united cry of the Nation will be heard on high, and answered with blessings, no less than the pardon of our national sins, and the restoration of our now divided and suffering Country, to its former happy condition of unity and peace.

In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed.

Done at the City of Washington, this 12th day of April, in the year of our Lord two thousand and nine, and of the Independence of the United States the two hundred and thirty second.

By the President: Abraham Lincoln

Sent by the Word of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob


NOW..., as to whether the U.S. and its people *will do this* — that’s another question. I seriously doubt it — so I think the judgment of God will *stay in place* and the U.S. is going down...


11 posted on 05/19/2009 7:11:15 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Acts 2:17-21 (New International Version)

17” ‘In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.
19I will show wonders in the heaven above
and signs on the earth below,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
20The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.
21And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved.’


12 posted on 05/19/2009 7:23:58 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: truthandlife
PROFITABLE businesses that are only being closed because King Obama is forcing the auto makers to close them!!!

False info. Obama did not order this. These dealers were selling, in may cases, less than 100 cars each per year or there was an oversaturation of car dealers in certain areas.

13 posted on 05/19/2009 7:24:30 AM PDT by tc45a
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To: truthandlife
I am sure most people don't fully appreciate what is really happening with the closing of nearly 2,000 auto dealerships around the country. THIS IS A HUGE DEAL AND PEOPLE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION!!! The reason this is a big deal is because these are vibrant, active, PROFITABLE businesses that are only being closed because King Obama is forcing the auto makers to close them!!!

I am curious.

Has anyone explored the notion that Obama and his allies would do a little easy research and discover which dealers have supported Republican candidates and target them for closure irrespective of whether those dealers were financially stable and profitable?

Seems to me that this would be a golden opportunity for some political mechanization.

There is a lot of political contributions out there in the dealership world. I can’t see the Dimycrats passing this up

14 posted on 05/19/2009 7:29:00 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: truthandlife
your young men will see visions

Such visions will be credible only if in accord with scripture (Heb 1:1).

I find no "Jonah Project" in scripture nor do I find a socialized employment ministry outlined.

I do see the Word firmly against any form of a "social gospel" when-in prospperity emmantes from the Church. Actually, Judas Iscariot is a fine example of one who encourages a "social gospel". Note his outcome...

15 posted on 05/19/2009 7:34:17 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: Pontiac
Has anyone explored the notion that Obama and his allies would do a little easy research and discover which dealers have supported Republican candidates and target them for closure irrespective of whether those dealers were financially stable and profitable?

I hope you are not serious. This was not the reason the dealers were closed. Lack of production and oversaturation of dealers was the reason. American car manufactuerers no longer have the market share they once had.

My local New Holland tractor dealer lost it's franchise January 1st 2009 due to lack of production. Less farms in my area and way too many NH dealers in my area to begin with.

He was 2 1/2 miles from my house. Now I will have to take my tractor down the road to the next dealer 14 miles away. No big deal.

16 posted on 05/19/2009 7:41:04 AM PDT by tc45a
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To: Pontiac

Pontiac, you are the only commenter close to the mark. These thousands of small-business entrepreneurs being boarded up are about as reliably Republican as any group in America, and typically are active politically and often financially support GOP candidates to state legislatures and to Congress. The Democrats know this well, and are gleefully using this “crisis” to shut down opposition.

Can’t let any crisis go to waste, you know.

I wonder ... how many of these dealerships will open in a few weeks after hauling down their GM sign with a Toyota or Subaru sign proudly sticking up over their dealership. Foreign automakers may decide that this is a crisis to good to let go to waste as well.


17 posted on 05/19/2009 7:43:52 AM PDT by Spartan79
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To: tc45a

Even so, it’s none of Obama’s business! He has NO ROLE in determining which businesses should stay open and which should not. Whatever was happening in the auto industry was for the industry itself to correct, not the President of the United States!


18 posted on 05/19/2009 7:46:28 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Earth: It's not your mother, it's just a big rock.)
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To: ChocChipCookie
Even so, it’s none of Obama’s business! He has NO ROLE in determining which businesses should stay open and which should not.

Obama had no role in deterimining these dealer closings. It was based on economics.

As I mentioned my local New Holland dealer was closed for lack of production and there was too many dealers in my area. Years ago all we had was NewHolland/Ford and John Deere. Now we have a Kubota dealer down the road, Mahindra, Kyioti, Yanmar etc. Too many dealers for a small area.

New Holland culled the herd, not obama

19 posted on 05/19/2009 7:51:36 AM PDT by tc45a
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To: tc45a

Not sure which way you trend re: Obama, but his fingerprints are all over the closing of dealerships, determining how much GM can spend to market their product, etc. That is WAY beyond the scope of the Presidency and completely unconstitutional.

Try this article for starters: http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2009/05/18/daily8.html?jst=b_ln_hl


20 posted on 05/19/2009 7:59:30 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Earth: It's not your mother, it's just a big rock.)
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