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Lutheran Theologians Respond to ELCA Task Force Documents
elca news service ^ | March 20, 2009 | John Brooks

Posted on 03/20/2009 3:10:26 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston

ELCA NEWS SERVICE March 20, 2009

Lutheran Theologians Respond to ELCA Task Force Documents 09-069-MRC

CHICAGO (ELCA) -- Three theologians of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) responded unfavorably to content in two documents released by the Task Force for ELCA Studies on Sexuality.

The task force released Feb. 19 a proposed social statement on human sexuality and a report recommending a process to consider changes to ministry policies that could make it possible for Lutherans in committed same-gender relationships to serve as ELCA associates in ministry, deaconesses, diaconal ministers and ordained ministers. Recommendations for both documents will be considered at the 2009 ELCA Churchwide Assembly, the church's chief legislative body, Aug. 17-23 in Minneapolis.

According to the Rev. Carl E. Braaten, the ELCA is at a crossroads. Braaten, Sun City West, Ariz., is co-founder and director of the Center for Catholic and Evangelical Theology. He's also professor emeritus of systematic theology, Lutheran School of Theology at Chicago, one of eight ELCA seminaries.

The social statement "professes not to know the difference between right and wrong on crucial matters of human sexuality," he said. The task force has made "a proposal to the church that takes one side of a controversial issue on which it does not expect that a consensus will emerge soon or ever."

If the ELCA assembly is to adopt the social statement and approve the task force's recommendation, Braaten said, "That would constitute a radical departure from the overwhelming consensus that has prevailed in historic Christianity through 20 centuries." He said many pastors and congregations will choose not to leave the ELCA but "remain and protest as a confessing movement."

According to Dr. Robert D. Benne, the social statement avoids making "normative judgments about homosexual conduct by neglecting the testimony of the Bible and the Christian moral tradition on that issue." Benne is professor emeritus and director of the Center for Religion and Society, Roanoke College, Salem, Va. Roanoke is one of 28 colleges and universities of the ELCA.

"I believe it is incontestable that the Scriptures and the moral teaching of the Christian church throughout the ages -- and presently that of the ecumenical church -- proscribe homosexual relations of any sort," Benne said.

"I am not satisfied with appeals to sincerity and tolerance, especially since I think Christian teaching is clear. And I am certainly not satisfied with those appeals when the recommendations of the task force lead to no teachings at all on the subject, but yet lead to sharp changes in practice," he said.

"There definitely is a sense in which we can live with our differences when it comes to public policy," Benne said. "But the sexuality issues under discussion have to do with the teaching and practice of the church. They strike much closer to the core of Christian life and teaching -- what does it mean to love the neighbor in sexual matters?"

The Rev. Paul R. Hinlicky, Roanoke's Tice Professor in Lutheran Studies, said he's contemplating a "divorce." "Not from my wife of 35 years, but from my denomination." He wrote for The Lutheran Forum that the ELCA "has come up with a different plan for a new future," putting "our covenant itself to a vote in August."

"The historic Christian tradition and the Lutheran Confessions have recognized marriage as a covenant between a man and a woman," said Hinlicky. But they appear in the proposed social statement "as memories of the way we used to be." He noted that some in the larger Christian community conclude that marriage is "also the appropriate term to use in describing similar benefits, protection, and support same-gender couples entering into lifelong monogamous relationships."

"The real voice of the people of God across the world and through the ages seems to matter not at all," said Hinlicky, "any more than Holy Scripture as parsed by the Lutheran Confessions. Surely, this church's congregations, if given an honest and secret ballot would overwhelmingly reject the manipulation of language and meaning involved in calling marriage anything other than that relation in Scripture and Confession."

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The task force's report and recommendation on ministry policies and social statement are available at http://www.ELCA.org/faithfuljourney on the ELCA Web site.

Robert Benne's comments are available at http://tinyurl.com/cjtxwu

Carl Braaten's comments are at http://tinyurl.com/d22hg8 and

Paul Hinlicky's comments are at http://tinyurl.com/cz4jar on the Internet.

For information contact: John Brooks, Director (773) 380-2958 or news@elca.org http://www.elca.org/news

ELCA News Blog: http://www.elca.org/news/blog


TOPICS: Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: apostasy; elca; homosexualagenda; homosexuality
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

We had some ALC congregations in our area when I grew up, and most of them changed to ECLA too. They also “fell off the cliff” a number of years ago. Now, many members are changing to the LCMS.

The biggest problem I see in the LCMS now is the many aged
pastors still working fulltime. Our congregation is in the process of calling another pastor. Most of the candidates are well up in years and want to retire in the warmer climate Texas has, but who can blame them.


21 posted on 03/21/2009 6:20:18 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It took almost 250 years to make the USA great and 30 days for BO to tear it down.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
I am not that experienced in this aspect as when we needed a pastor, we had the seminary send us one. For me, personally, I left an apostate church (ELCA) and I want one who considers the Bible to be the inerrant Word of God. I don't want someone making it up as they go along, such as in the ELCA.

As strange as it may seem to some, I will also not go to a church if the pastor is a Democrat and that will indicate to me there is a disconnect between his theology and politics.

When the previous pastor came, it was about the same time we moved to this location and we made sure this guy was complete before we would move our membership here. We were blessed with a complete pastor. We've had two young ones and both have been what we want. We've been impressed with what we got from St. Louis.

22 posted on 03/21/2009 6:47:31 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
As strange as it may seem to some, I will also not go to a church if the pastor is a Democrat and that will indicate to me there is a disconnect between his theology and politics.

I like your way of thinking. I am the same about pastors. All the past ones have been Republicans, so no problem with that. Our pastor once said the following (I had this as a tagline for some time) at a non church event:

"I don't know how any Christian can go to church on Sunday and vote for a democrat on Tuesday."

23 posted on 03/21/2009 7:00:12 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It took almost 250 years to make the USA great and 30 days for BO to tear it down.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Nothing wrong with them becoming Ministers when they have accepted Jesus Christ,confessed their sins.

Dude...if this is your understanding of salvation, I would say that you are neither Lutheran or Christian. May God have mercy on your soul!

24 posted on 03/21/2009 4:49:52 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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