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To: mountn man; Lee N. Field; RJR_fan
1948+70 years = 2018.

Ah, futurist math. The only difference between it an real math is that it changes ever time one of these dates comes and goes.

“The most important sign in Matthew has to be the restoration of the Jews to the land in the rebirth of Israel. Even the figure of speech ‘fig tree´ has been a historic symbol of national Israel. When the Jewish people, after nearly 2,000 years of exile, under relentless persecution, became a nation again on 14 May 1948 the ‘fig tree´ put forth its first leaves. Jesus said that this would indicate that He was ‘at the door,´ ready to return. Then He said, ‘Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place´ (Matthew 24:34, NASB). What generation? Obviously, in context, the generation that would see the signs—chief among them the rebirth of Israel. A generation in the Bible is something like forty years. If this is a correct deduction, then within forty years or so of 1948, all these things could take place. Many scholars who have studied Bible prophecy all their lives believe that this is so.” (Hal Lindsey, 1970)

"We're the generation that saw the fig tree bud forth, as Israel became a nation again in 1948. As a rule, a generation in the Bible lasts 40 years. ... Forty years after 1948 would bring us to 1988." (Chuck Smith, 1978)


61 posted on 02/21/2009 6:19:16 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: topcat54; Lee N. Field; RJR_fan
The problem with your post is that in Psalm 90 it says that a man life is to be 3 score and 10, or if by strength four score, which would be 70 years or 80. Now what about people who die young? Is the Bible a liar? My grandfather lived to 93. Did he prove the Bible wrong?

You seem to cherry pick my comment to beat me up with it. Lets look at what else I posted, in the same post.

My original comment about 2012 was just a thought that I have had, in using other than biblical "prophesy". Another thought I've had is that Israel became a nation in 1948. Psalms 90 tells us that a man shall live (a generation) 3 score and 10, or even 4 score. So 70-80 years. 1948+70 years = 2018. That would be if your holding to a generation being 70 years, and timelining it out. Now subtract 7 years for the tribulation, because if your a person who holds to the idea of a rapture, the rapture and second coming are different events. Whether the trib starts as soon as April or June of this year or not until 2018, doesn't really matter. Time is running out for the harvest. The storm clouds are gathering.

When I posted my "thoughts" I think it was pretty clear that they are thoughts, not something I absolutely hold to dogmatically. I posted that whether the trib starts in April 2009 or 2018... Pretty well shows I'm pretty loose on dates. You also totally avoid the MOST important part. The part where I mention that time is running out for the harvest.

2000 years ago we were told to be on the lookout for Christs return, as if it could happen today. Our lives aren't about living comfy lives in 3000 sq ft homes, with 2 cars, and 50" tvs. We are to be changing lives. Sharing the Good News, that others might believe. Its not wrong to have those things, but they're not why we're here. IF you KNEW Christ were to return next week, how would that change your prayer life? Who would you call to meet for lunch or dinner, to share the gospel?

Its easy and convenient to have the attitude that Christ has been gone for 2000 years and might not come back for another 1000. It allows us to live OUR lives. Believing that our "ministries" at church are "Gods" work. Gods work is reaching others for Christ.

69 posted on 02/21/2009 7:05:47 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: topcat54; mountn man; Lee N. Field; RJR_fan
"We're the generation that saw the fig tree bud forth, as Israel became a nation again in 1948. As a rule, a generation in the Bible lasts 40 years. ... Forty years after 1948 would bring us to 1988." (Chuck Smith, 1978)

The time of testing is forty years: 30 CE + 40 years = 70 CE

Again the time of testing: capture of Jerusalem with the return
of the Temple Mount to the Evil One : 1967-68 + 40 years = 2007-2008.

We are at the door ; lookup !

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
73 posted on 02/22/2009 6:46:32 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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