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THE OLD TESTAMENT SPEAKS TODAY - LDS (OPEN)
Ensign ^ | W. Cleon Skousen

Posted on 02/09/2009 7:43:26 AM PST by greyfoxx39

 

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The Old Testament Speaks Today

By W. Cleon Skousen
Professor of Ancient Scripture
Brigham Young University 


W. Cleon Skousen, “The Old Testament Speaks Today,” Ensign, Dec 1972, 79

For centuries some scholars have looked upon the Old Testament as an archaic, pre-Christian (and therefore inferior) scripture. But with the discovery and translation of the Dead Sea scrolls, a number of modern scholars have been shocked into believing that Christianity actually may have originated during the Old Testament period.

The scrolls refer to concepts, doctrines, and practices that had been considered nonexistent before the ministry of Christ. In fact, as the story of the scrolls has unfolded, it has gradually dawned on some of the authorities that Jesus did not initiate Christianity after all. He simply restored the rich religious culture that God had shared with mankind from the earliest times, which puts a different perspective on the study of the Old Testament.

None of this, however, has come as a surprise to Latter-day Saints; they already know that the gospel of Jesus Christ was taught to Adam. (Moses 6:51–68.) They know he was told all about the mission of the Savior, the doctrine of repentance, the need for baptism by immersion, and the bestowal of the Holy Ghost. Furthermore, modern revelation discloses that Adam was ordained to the holy priesthood (D&C 84:16–17), he received the endowment (Moses 5:59), and he was instructed to record the whole gospel story in a perfect language (Moses 6:5–6).

As a result of this tremendous dispensation of divine knowledge, Adam was able to teach his descendants the entire gospel of Jesus Christ. Enoch did the same thing for his people, and so did Noah, Abraham, and Moses. In fact, a modern scripture reveals that the Old Testament prophets testified of Christ. (Jacob 7:11.)

This is precisely what Eusebius said had happened. Eusebius, who lived approximately a.d. 260 to 340, was the first great Christian ecclesiastical historian. He called Christianity the oldest religion in the world:

“… our life and our conduct, with our doctrines of religion, have not been lately invented by us, but from the first creation of man, so to speak, have been established by the natural understanding of divinely favored men of old. …  

“What then should prevent the confession that we who are of Christ practice one and the same mode of life and have one and the same religion as those divinely favored men of old? Whence it is evident that the perfect religion committed to us by the teaching of Christ is not new and strange, but, if the truth must be spoken, it is the first and true religion.” (Eusebius, Church History 4:4, 15.)

The moment the Old Testament began to be recognized as a significant part of the gospel story, its prestige also began rising. Nevertheless, scholars cannot help wondering how so much of the story has become lost, especially the prophecies and teachings concerning the earthly mission and message of Jesus Christ. No wonder it has come as such a surprise when the Dead Sea scrolls seem to reveal that there was a pre-Christian “Christianity.”

Of course, it is important to remember how terrible the prophecies concerning the first coming of Christ must have sounded in the ears of the ancient Jewish scribes. These prophecies said the great Messiah would come among men and would be slain by his own people. Such a possibility seems to have become so completely abhorrent to the minds of the venerable scribes who lived during the Jewish period of national decline that they began striking these passages from the scriptures. But at least one prophet, Nephi, knew in advance that this would happen. (1 Ne. 13:28–29.)

Fortunately, they missed the great messianic chapter of Isaiah (chapter 53), but nearly everything else concerning the first coming of Christ was deleted. Sometimes whole books were excised, including the priceless messianic texts of Zenos, Zenoch, and Neum. (1 Ne. 19:10.)

But the restoration of the gospel has changed all this. Whole segments of Old Testament history and doctrine have emerged in a vast outpouring of revelations from the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, the Pearl of Great Price, and the Inspired Version of the Bible.

These remarkable scriptures provide contributions far exceeding the value of those from all other sources. Not only do they establish with dramatic finality the antiquity of the gospel of Jesus Christ, but they make it clear that the entire Old Testament was originally a history of the repeated rise and fall of Christianity in ancient times.

They also reveal that the Lord intends the Old Testament to be of great value to modern man. The entire text is pertinent to the problems of our times except the small portion dealing with the law of carnal commandments that was fulfilled and made obsolete by the earthly mission of the Savior.

One of the most intriguing aspects of Old Testament research is discovering how much the ancient servants of God were told about our day.

None of them recorded more details concerning the latter days than Isaiah. Latter-day Saints well recognize that he knew about America, about the American Indians, and about the coming forth of the Book of Mormon. He knew Joseph Smith 2,500 years before he was born. He knew the words that would be spoken during the First Vision in the sacred grove at Palmyra, New York.

Isaiah knew the role Martin Harris would play in the early days of the Church. He was also familiar with the role of a certain “learned” man, who turned out to be Professor Charles Anthon, one of America’s foremost classical scholars during the mid-nineteenth century. Isaiah knew what Professor Anthon would say when Martin Harris told him about the Book of Mormon plates. (Isa. 29)

It is now known that Joseph who was sold into Egypt had many revelations concerning modern times similar to those of Isaiah. He knew that Joseph Smith would be one of his own descendants, that his name would be Joseph, and that his father’s name would be Joseph. He knew the modern Joseph would launch the great last gathering of Israel, bring forth the Book of Mormon, unite it with the Bible, and make them both one body of scripture. He knew the young prophet would begin his work in abject weakness but that eventually he would become a magnificent and powerful leader like Moses. (2 Ne. 3:7, 11–21.)

These writings of the ancient patriarch Joseph were so impressive to Moses, who came later, that Moses included them in the fiftieth chapter of Genesis. Tragically, some ancient scribe presumptuously stripped them out and they had to be restored again in our day. (See JST, Gen. 50; 2 Ne. 3:5–24.)

In spite of the alteration of Genesis, however, the orthodox Jews have retained a rich tradition about a latter-day descendant of Joseph who would come to prepare the way for the great Messiah. References to this modern Joseph, whom the Jews call “messiah ben Joseph,” can be found in the Talmud, the Midrash, and the Jewish Targum.

These traditions say that the latter-day servant of God would be a descendant of Joseph through Ephraim, that his mission would commence about the same time Elijah returned (Mal. 4:5–6), and that ultimately he would be killed.

All of this is summarized with sources cited in a book by the late Dr. Joseph Klausner of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. Dr. Klausner’s book, The Messianic Idea in Israel (New York: The Macmillan Co., 1955), devoted the entire ninth chapter of part 3 to a discussion of the “messiah ben Joseph” tradition. Yet it always puzzled Dr. Klausner that this tradition should be so thoroughly established in Jewish lore, even though there was no reference to it in the Jewish scripture.

Had Dr. Klausner lived a little longer, he might have met some of the Mormon scholars who are doing scriptural research in the Holy Land. They could have explained this mystery to him and shared with him the good news that this great Jewish expectation has now been fulfilled. “Messiah ben Joseph” has come, and so has Elijah.

The coming of Joseph and Elijah in the latter days was to herald the dawn of a great new era for the tribe of Judah, and it is interesting to see that the Jews have gone ahead fulfilling prophecy, without even knowing that the two harbingers they were expecting have already come.

The Old Testament prophets said that in the latter days the Jews would begin to return once again to their ancient homeland. (Isa. 11:12; Isa. 61:4; Jer. 3:18; Jer. 12:14–15; Jer. 30:3.) They predicted that the land would change from one of blinding, blistering sterility to one of beauty, abundance, and fertility. (Isa. 35:1; Isa. 41:19–20; Isa. 55:13.)

There is a prophecy in the Old Testament that a new temple will be built in Jerusalem according to the design described in the book of Ezekiel. (Ezek. 40–43.) The modern Jews must also take from their midst the sons of Levi (identified as cohens from ancient times) and have them offer up the ancient sacrifices as an “offering in righteousness” that will be acceptable to God. (Ezek. 43:18–27; Ezek. 44:9–27; Mal. 3:3.)

The scriptures then give a warning that this work is so important that any Jews or gentiles who fight against Zion and try to frustrate God’s purposes will be destroyed. (2 Ne. 10:16.) It is God’s purpose to have righteous Jews, righteous Arabs, righteous gentiles, and all others who will hearken to his voice work together for universal peace and prosperity preparatory to the ushering in of the millennium.

Before the millennium, however, there awaits for the Jews a dreadful experience, which the prophets called Armageddon. It will be a time of great suffering, which Isaiah called the “dregs of the cup of trembling.” (Isa. 51:17.) A vast coalition of gentile nations will try to conquer the Jews. A whole chapter in Ezekiel is devoted to this siege (Ezek. 38), and elsewhere we are told it will last three and a half years.

No Jewish leader will know how to save the people from their predicament, but the Lord will raise up two mighty prophets who will use the power of the priesthood to stop the hosts of the gentiles. Nevertheless, the gentiles will eventually break through and kill these two prophets. (Rev. 11:2–7.) Half of Jerusalem will be pillaged. The bodies of the two prophets will lie in the streets for three and a half days, and then they will be caught up to heaven to meet the Messiah as he makes his appearance in behalf of his people.

The scriptures say the Savior will appear on the Mount of Olives and that that mount east of Jerusalem will split in two, thereby opening a pass through which the survivors in Jerusalem can flee to safety. (Zech. 14:2–5; Rev. 14:1.) At the same time the gentile armies will be destroyed by the power of God. Only one-sixth will be left. (Ezek. 39:1–8.)

Then the Jews will gather around their Messiah in the deepest adoration, but they will be puzzled by the wounds in his hands. Gradually it will dawn on them that this is none other than Jesus of Nazareth, and the people will go into great mourning because their forefathers failed to recognize him when he came to earth, and they had him crucified.

From that moment on, both Jews and Christians will worship the same Messiah. Heathen nations will say to the Jews: “We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.” (Zech. 8:22–23.)

The Old Testament is an exciting book. We have sampled here only a few of its treasures; there are other profound subjects relating to modern times that have been recently explored, and these are equally stimulating.

One of them is the description of a special type of civilization that is potentially capable of eliminating crime, slavery, prisons, war, poverty, injustice, intemperance, and immorality. The laws and principles for such a civilization were revealed by God and actually demonstrated on occasion during the Old Testament period.

God also revealed a pattern for ideal priesthood government that offers the most efficient and economical way to govern large populations without sacrificing local control or private initiative.

There is scarcely any problem in social relations today that is not treated in the Old Testament. That is why we call it a modern book designed for modern man. It speaks to us in our day.



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1 posted on 02/09/2009 7:43:26 AM PST by greyfoxx39
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2 posted on 02/09/2009 7:44:26 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Is it possible to become a lame duck in the first 100 days? Yes we can!)
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To: greyfoxx39
"He knew the young prophet would begin his work in abject weakness but that eventually he would become a magnificent and powerful leader like Moses."

Moses turned a staff into a snake, parted the Red Sea, smote water from a rock, etc.

I challenge any mormon to prove that Joseph Smith was a powerful leader like Moses by referencing ANY example of his use of God's power, "Like Moses".

3 posted on 02/09/2009 7:56:15 AM PST by SENTINEL (SGT USMC GWI)
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To: SENTINEL
Hey, now wait a minute, let's be fair.

Joe Smith had indeed performed a vast miracle, similar to Moses at the red Sea, one that continues today.

He has parted numerous otherwise intelligent people from both their money and senses...

4 posted on 02/09/2009 8:09:47 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: greyfoxx39

Blasphemy!


5 posted on 02/09/2009 8:19:34 AM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: SENTINEL
Moses turned a staff into a snake, parted the Red Sea, smote water from a rock, etc.

Though, in actuality, Moses didn't do any of those things.

God did.

6 posted on 02/09/2009 8:20:45 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ejonesie22

LOL.

I saw a book of Moses being referenced in this post, and was confused. Then I saw:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Moses

Wow. Just wow.


7 posted on 02/09/2009 8:28:28 AM PST by rom (Obama '12 slogan: Let's keep on hopin'!)
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To: greyfoxx39
The Old Testament is a vital part of Catholic Readings

It's not "old-fashioned" for Catholics at all.

Reading 1
Gn1:1-19

In the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth,
the earth was a formless wasteland, and darkness covered the abyss,
while a mighty wind swept over the waters.

Then God said,
"Let there be light," and there was light.
God saw how good the light was.
God then separated the light from the darkness.
God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night."
Thus evening came, and morning followed—the first day.

Then God said,
"Let there be a dome in the middle of the waters,
to separate one body of water from the other."
And so it happened:
God made the dome,
and it separated the water above the dome from the water below it.
God called the dome "the sky."
Evening came, and morning followed—the second day.

Then God said,
"Let the water under the sky be gathered into a single basin,
so that the dry land may appear."
And so it happened:
the water under the sky was gathered into its basin,
and the dry land appeared.
God called the dry land "the earth,"
and the basin of the water he called "the sea."
God saw how good it was.
Then God said,
"Let the earth bring forth vegetation:
every kind of plant that bears seed
and every kind of fruit tree on earth
that bears fruit with its seed in it."
And so it happened:
the earth brought forth every kind of plant that bears seed
and every kind of fruit tree on earth that
bears fruit with its seed in it.
God saw how good it was.
Evening came, and morning followed—the third day.

Then God said:
"Let there be lights in the dome of the sky,
to separate day from night.
Let them mark the fixed times, the days and the years,
and serve as luminaries in the dome of the sky,
to shed light upon the earth."
And so it happened:
God made the two great lights,
the greater one to govern the day,
and the lesser one to govern the night;
and he made the stars.
God set them in the dome of the sky,
to shed light upon the earth,
to govern the day and the night,
and to separate the light from the darkness.
God saw how good it was.
Evening came, and morning followed—the fourth day.


8 posted on 02/09/2009 8:32:15 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ShadowAce

You are kind of making my point. God gave Moses the POWER TO PROVE he spoke for, and acted on behalf of God. God could have obviously parted the Red Sea without Moses commanding it, but God wanted a Prophet to bring forth the commandments unto men. God used allowed Moses to use a portion of his power to prove to the world beyond a shadow of a doubt that the 10 commandments came from God. It would seem so much more difficult to be commanded into polygamy, for example....The same God certainly would not deny similar power to the “prophet” Joe Smith....So examples are requested.


9 posted on 02/09/2009 8:32:35 AM PST by SENTINEL (SGT USMC GWI)
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To: rom

Oh yeah, it gets even better too...


10 posted on 02/09/2009 8:36:32 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: SENTINEL
You also forgot he was probably a highly educated man being raised by the pharaoh. Not only did he turn a staff into a snake he changed it back to a staff.Among other things.
11 posted on 02/09/2009 8:40:53 AM PST by svcw
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To: greyfoxx39
This 1972 article presents erroneous understandings of the DSS of that time. Since then, the materials have been translated and intensely scrutinized.

But with the discovery and translation of the Dead Sea scrolls, a number of modern scholars have been shocked into believing that Christianity actually may have originated during the Old Testament period.

Generally this is considered to be the Essene community that did the copying of the scrolls, and that Jesus was an essene. This has been pretty well disproved now that the details of the life and culture of the Essene DS communities has been revealed by the DSS.

In fact, as the story of the scrolls has unfolded, it has gradually dawned on some of the authorities that Jesus did not initiate Christianity after all. He simply restored the rich religious culture that God had shared with mankind from the earliest times, which puts a different perspective on the study of the Old Testament.

As a faith promoting article, the facts just don’t follow the story. The author depends upon the lack of knowledge by the reader and the attendant mystery of the DSS documents at the time to conjure up this kind of story. Modern evaluation of the DSS scrolls do not support such a fanciful tail.

Nevertheless, scholars cannot help wondering how so much of the story has become lost, especially the prophecies and teachings concerning the earthly mission and message of Jesus Christ. No wonder it has come as such a surprise when the Dead Sea scrolls seem to reveal that there was a pre-Christian “Christianity.”

By scholars the author should be more specific in that they are mormon scholars. Modern scholarship does not support this interpretation.

These prophecies said the great Messiah would come among men and would be slain by his own people. Such a possibility seems to have become so completely abhorrent to the minds of the venerable scribes who lived during the Jewish period of national decline that they began striking these passages from the scriptures. But at least one prophet, Nephi, knew in advance that this would happen. (1 Ne. 13:28–29.)
Fortunately, they missed the great messianic chapter of Isaiah (chapter 53), but nearly everything else concerning the first coming of Christ was deleted. Sometimes whole books were excised, including the priceless messianic texts of Zenos, Zenoch, and Neum. (1 Ne. 19:10.)

This is actually very intellectually dishonest on multiple levels. First there is no evidence of striking any of what Christianity defines as the Suffering Messiah passages of prophecy. In fact, those passages are more than abundant. Secondly, within the context of the DSS, this claim is substantially TROUNCED by the Isaiah Scroll which confirmed the transmission of the OT text -

Isaiah 53:3-7 (King James Version)
3He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

So there is no legitimate evidence that these passages were removed. Secondly, there is no evidence of any Zeno, Zenoch or Neum ever existing in the first place (outside the mind of smith). Nephi could not have existed as is clearly attested to here

Isaiah knew the role Martin Harris would play in the early days of the Church. He was also familiar with the role of a certain “learned” man, who turned out to be Professor Charles Anthon, one of America’s foremost classical scholars during the mid-nineteenth century. Isaiah knew what Professor Anthon would say when Martin Harris told him about the Book of Mormon plates. (Isa. 29)

This is so undefendable it is laughable that the author would put it here except to perpetuate the lie.

Dr. Klausner’s book, The Messianic Idea in Israel . . . . . Yet it always puzzled Dr. Klausner that this tradition should be so thoroughly established in Jewish lore, even though there was no reference to it in the Jewish scripture.

Yet as much as Klausner and other Jewish scholars may be reluctant to admit it, New Testament Christology does not spring from foreign soil. In addition to examples in the Hebrew Scriptures, there is ample evidence from the literature of the intertestamental period (approximately 400 B.C. to first century A.D.) to confirm a messianic hope. With the discovery and translation of the Qumran texts (the Dead Sea Scrolls) in 1947, our knowledge of first century Judaism has been significantly expanded. There is now solid confirmation that what Jewish scholars at that time had rejected in New Testament Christology as foreign to Judaism was, in fact, part of the fabric of the Jewish messianic expectation well before then. There had been the development of a two Messiah concept—Messiah son of Joseph and Messiah son of David. Other passages portrayed both a kingly and a priestly Messiah. However, in the Qumran literature, both the royal and the priestly roles are ascribed to just one person—a Messiah who had the power to forgive sin

The modern Jews must also take from their midst the sons of Levi (identified as cohens from ancient times) and have them offer up the ancient sacrifices as an “offering in righteousness” that will be acceptable to God. (Ezek. 43:18–27; Ezek. 44:9–27; Mal. 3:3.)

These are the only ones authorized to be priests in the OT, and only one at a time could be High Priest – sorry LDS, unless you are blood descendant of Aaron, no Aaronic priesthood for you.

In conclusion, this article is grossly out of date as far as the scholarship surrounding the DSS goes and modern research has shown that the DSS actually work to disprove the BOM, BOA and Moses. But for the mormon sheeple, faith promoting rumor is the staple of life.

12 posted on 02/09/2009 8:49:17 AM PST by Godzilla (Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?)
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To: Godzilla
So that means we still have a shot at getting Lord of the Rings in under the radar and made LDS Scripture. I think some actual good fiction would jazz things up for them...
13 posted on 02/09/2009 9:00:53 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: ejonesie22

NO use throwing good fiction after bad fiction.


14 posted on 02/09/2009 9:06:25 AM PST by Godzilla (Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?)
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To: Godzilla

Good point...

Maybe some L. Ron...

Better fit anyways...


15 posted on 02/09/2009 9:08:29 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: ejonesie22

eeeuuuuueehhhhh, really bad fiction.


16 posted on 02/09/2009 9:11:37 AM PST by Godzilla (Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?)
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To: greyfoxx39
The New Testement evidently did NOT 'speak' in the 1830's!

Either that; or these MEN merely IGNORED what it plainly said.


 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
 
 
1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
 
 
 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.




 
BEHOLD!!!!  The Restorative Power  of the Book of Mormon!!
 



 
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2
 
  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
 


 
TRUTH IGNORED
 
 

Smith, Young, Taylor, Pratt, Snow, Kimball, Woodruff ...

 

17 posted on 02/09/2009 9:19:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ejonesie22
 
Maybe some L. Ron...
 
 
HEY!!!!

 
 
 
 

Scientology is a newer religion than Mormonism...
 


 
 
 
 
Don't make fun of them,
they have a right to have
their moronic beliefs respected.
 
 
 
 
 

18 posted on 02/09/2009 9:21:12 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Godzilla
In conclusion, this article is grossly out of date as far as the scholarship surrounding the DSS goes and modern research has shown that the DSS actually work to disprove the BOM, BOA and Moses. But for the mormon sheeple, faith promoting rumor is the staple of life.

Perhaps a revelation by an LDS prophet is required to instigate removal of out-of-date material on the official LDS site.

An excerpt from Revelation: “A Continuous Melody and a Thunderous Appeal”

states as follows:

 

Chapter 22: Revelation: “A Continuous Melody and a Thunderous Appeal”, Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Spencer W. Kimball, (2006),236–48

Through living prophets, the Lord reveals His will for the Church.

Of all things, that for which we should be most grateful today is that the heavens are indeed open and that the restored church of Jesus Christ is founded upon the rock of revelation. Continuous revelation is indeed the very lifeblood of the gospel of the living Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.19

Vital and priceless records of ancient America, with teachings of Christ, another testimony of his divinity, form the Book of Mormon, which we declare to be divine scripture, contemporary with and sustaining the Bible.

Since [Joseph Smith’s First Vision] in 1820, additional scripture has continued to come, including the numerous and vital revelations flowing in a never-ending stream from God to his prophets on the earth. Many of these revelations are recorded in another scripture called the Doctrine and Covenants. Completing our Latter-day Saint scriptures is the Pearl of Great Price, another record of revelation and translated writings of both ancient and modern prophets.

There are those who would assume that with the printing and binding of these sacred records, that would be the “end of the prophets.” But again we testify to the world that revelation continues and that the vaults and files of the Church contain these revelations which come month to month and day to day. We testify also that there is, since 1830 when The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, and will continue to be, so long as time shall last, a prophet, recognized of God and his people, who will continue to interpret the mind and will of the Lord.20

When … , after prayer and fasting, important decisions are made [by Church leaders], new missions and new stakes are created, new patterns and policies initiated, the news is taken for granted and possibly thought of as mere human calculations. But to those who sit in the intimate circles and hear the prayers of the prophet and the testimony of the man of God; to those who see the astuteness of his deliberations and the sagacity of his decisions and pronouncements, to them he is verily a prophet. To hear him conclude important new developments with such solemn expressions as “the Lord is pleased”; “that move is right”; “our Heavenly Father has spoken,” is to know positively.21

Revelation has not ceased and will not cease. This kingdom of God has been set up for the rest of time, never to be torn down nor given to another people. It is a continuous program and will grow instead of diminish. Its doctrines are well established, but because of growth and expansion, improved ways are afforded to teach the gospel all over the world. Additional servants are called to the increasing work for a bigger world. Revelation and other miracles will never cease unless faith ceases. Where there is adequate faith, these things will continue.

The prophet Mormon warned: “Yea, wo unto him that shall deny the revelations of the Lord, and that shall say the Lord no longer worketh by revelation, or by prophecy, or by gifts, or by tongues, or by healings, or by the power of the Holy Ghost!” (3 Ne. 29:6)22

I bear witness that the Church moves on through the revelations of God to its divinely called leaders. The Almighty is with this people.23

************************************************************************************************************************ The revision of Kimball's words will probably have to wait in line until after Brigham Young, Orson Pratt, and other prophets are sanitized.

19 posted on 02/09/2009 9:39:34 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Is it possible to become a lame duck in the first 100 days? Yes we can!)
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To: Godzilla

Then we have a match...


20 posted on 02/09/2009 10:33:03 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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