Posted on 01/15/2009 4:42:15 PM PST by greyfoxx39
In my church, the emphasis is on loyalty to Christ.
Ping
Not sure why I’m responding here. I don’t even know what the point is of this article. Are you a mormon?
But isn't that what Smith said did happen for most of Church history until he received his revelation?
If his revelation is the truth, why'd it take so long for God to correct it?
One of those dreaded, evil apostates.
I’ve got 5pm PST. Its just to note when this post gets pulled.
Since you asked: I never much cared for sermonizing and in my opinion, as far as going to “church” goes, nothing can ever be compared with the Sacrament of Holy Eucharist.
But,
Isn't this what Joseph Smith himself did?
Do not these words precisely condemn the man?
Is this not the great error of Mohammad?
The Gift of Prophesy is precise and unforgiving
When speaking in Voice, and Under Command
The mark of a False Prophet is that those words
1. Do not glorify the Lord and uplift his Children
2. Are not 100% TRUE, NO EXCEPTIONS, and in complete backward compatibility with previous revealed knowledge.
3. The False Prophet is stoned or cast into the outer darkness
Nope. We teach the Bible verse by verse, or expositionally. We aren't topically oriented. Since you asked.
Why would it get pulled? It's just a lesson from the LDS church.
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment
Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”
You ask in jest. We shall see.
Ahh. You are an uber mormon basher. Kinda like the ex smokers that rail against tobacco.
“Mormonism in England and Mormonism in Utah are two very different systems. In England all its objectionable principles were not only ignored, but denied. Its Apostles and Elders not only uttered negative but also positive falsehoods, in order to induce belief. They not only denied many things that were true, but stated many things that were utterly false. As a sample of their falsehoods,
I will instance polygamy. This was practiced by Smith in 1838, and the Mormon Apostles KNEW IT. Yet, when the Church was charged with its adoption, Parley P. Pratt, in Manbchester, England, before the general conference of the European churches, and in the Millennial Star of 1846, thus publicly denounced it: “Such a doctrine is not held, known, or practiced as a principle of the Latter-day Saints. It is but another name for whoredom; and is as foreign friom the real principles of the Church, as the devil is from God; or as sectarianism is from Christianity” (Millennial Star, vol. vi., p. 22).
And yet this man knew that Smith and others had children living WHO WERE THE OFFSPRING OF THIS VERY PRACTICE!
John Taylor, another Mormon Apostle, in a discussion held at Boulogne, France, in July 1850, was charged with the belief of this doctrine, to which accusation he thus replied: “ We are accused here of polygamy and actions the most indelicate, obscene and disgusting, such as none but a corrupt heart could have conceived. These things are too outrageous to be believed; therefore I shall content myself with reading our views of chastity and marriage, from a work published by us, containing some of the articles of our faith.”
He read in the Book of Smith’s Revelations, p. 330, the marriage covenant: “You both mutually agree to be each other’s companion, husband and wife; observing all the legal rights belonging to this condition; that is, keeping yourselves wholly for each other, and from all others during your lives!”
And on p.331: “Inasmuch as this Church of Jesus Christ has been reproached with the crime of fornication and polygamy, we declare that we believe that one man should have one wfe, and one woman but one husband, except in case of death, when either is at liberty to marry again!”
And again, on p. 124: “Thou shalt love thy wife with all thy heart, and shall cleave unto her, and none else; and he that looketh on a woman to lust after her, shall deny the faith, and not have the spirit, and be cast out.” “There,” exclaimed Elder Taylor, triumphantly, “that is our doctrine on this subject” (Taylor’s Discussion at Boulogne, p. 8).
And this man had four wives wrangling and quarreling at Utah, and was paying attentions to a girl at Jersey, Channel Islands, at the very moment he uttered these willful, intentional falsehoods!
The illustrious examples of such pseudo-inspired Apostles were industriously imitated by similarly inspired Elders. Where the former were content with mere affirmation or denial, the latter blasphemously called on God to attest their veracity; and challenged the Almighty to disprove their statements. Some of them denounced their accusers with bitter curses, and threatened them with all kinds of spiritual horrors.
From the lips of such men, and others who had been deceived by such men, did my father and myself first hear of Mormonism” John Hyde, 1857
Who better to spread the message?
Mormons have 60,000 single missionaries and untold couples out spreading their message. A few disputing the mormon message on FR can't be seen as a whole lot of competition....as to the "bashing", you can see from the article that the "persecution" meme comes directly from the top.
Not correct - that is what he said happened to ALL of the history of Christianity.
In my church there’d be lots of Bible scriptures...
Dont see much in that “talk”
The mormon “missionaries” in England, in 1848 didnt bother with the Bible, either...
“Very little attention was paid to the subject by the conservators of religious truth. Despised, it was neglected; and because neglected, it continued to, grow. With little or no contradiction, and the little that was made, readily silenced by these men, they made themselves believed.
All that was known of Mormonism was known from their statements; positively thinking it something holier, purer and truer, it was embraced by hundreds. To fervently embrace a delusion, is to more sincerely believe it. They clothed it in the drapery of warm emotions; and good men, in their desires for something more exalted and God-like, viewed it through the distorted medium of their own wishes; not knowing it as it was, they thought it was what they hoped it to be. When they began to see the difference between their conception and the reality, many were too enmeshed to forsake it.”
John Hyde, 1857
The people who run for their lives fr4om mormponism, dont “apostasize”...They escape...
He brought me up out of the pit of destruction, out of the miry clay, And He set my feet upon a rock making my footsteps firm. Psalm 40:2
I can hardly wait for Sunday night when the next HBO series of BIG LOVE starts!
You will have to FReepmail me a synopsis...I dropped HBO. OK?
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