So did he get excommed for the accusations of inproper sexual behavior or for the Praise and worship Center?
I heard the term Charasmatic Catholic on EWTN talk radio and it sounds like a group much life Pentecostals. So that would fit the Praise and worship.
What I did not pick up was if Charasmatic Catholics are a dif sect apart from the Roman Catholic Church.
The latter.
He was warned repeatedly to cease and desist and he refused. Hence the excommunication.
Excommunication is reserved for perseverance in serious sin, in the face of requests to abandon it. On the other hand, sins committed in the past, however serious, and which are no longer occurring and for which a person has expressed remorse, do not necessitate an excommunication.
The point being that excommunication is intended to bring a perp to repentance, rather than to nail him or her for previous errant behavior.
>>What I did not pick up was if Charasmatic Catholics are a dif sect apart from the Roman Catholic Church.<<
Can you give an opinion on this TC?
He was relieved from his duties due to the improper behavior, and then went off and effectively founded a new religion, which resulted in formal excommunication.
What I did not pick up was if Charasmatic Catholics are a dif sect apart from the Roman Catholic Church.
Charismatic Catholics aren't a different sect. Fushek's organization is, however.
Charismatic Catholics are not a sect. They are Catholics who - at times, as individuals or in groups - pray in ways that are similar to Charismatic or Pentecostal Protestants. The Catholic Charismatic Renewal is an approved movement in the Catholic Church, under the authority of the Vatican and local Bishops.
If individuals or groups drift from Catholic doctrine or approved practice, they are subject to the same disciplinary guidance as any other Catholics. For example, several years ago the U.S. Bishops (I think, although the instruction might have originated in Rome) prohibited Charismatics from anointing with oil during prayers for healing, because of the potential confusion with the Sacrament of Anointing of the Sick.
Charismatic Catholics, if you mean Spirit-Filled, are very much a part of the Catholic Church. The CC is where the renewal that spread through the mainline churches in the 80s began.
There is something aberrant in these two, that they would be excommunicated. It would not be simply their Praise and Worship Center.
Else why would Nancy P not be excommunicated????
Charismatic Catholics, on the whole, are very much Catholic.
This priest, through his own actions, proved that he didn’t believe in either the Commandments or the Laws of the Church. Nor did he respect the vows of Holy Orders that he took when he was ordained.
I was a Charismatic before I was a Catholic. No one told me there was any problem with it. There was a Charismatic Bible Study and Prayer group at two Catholic Churches that I have attended. One was very low key and met to hear speakers on various subjects (Catechism of the Catholic Church and Biblical references abounded) and then had prayer. We would lay hands on specific people who asked for prayer and we often had group prayer for certain prayer requests. The Speaking in Tongues Prayers were quiet and very dignified and no one did any “pew jumping.” At the close, we recited the Lords Prayer, Hail Mary’s for the Pope, and the Doxology. The other Catholic Church had a very structured Charismatic Group who had a speaker tell of his/her experiences as a Catholic Charismatic and then group prayer for any requests. And it lasted ONE hour and not a minute longer. Needless to say, I was unimpressed, especially when I heard the co-leader state that “we’ll see about that” after the new Priest (at the time) didn’t end a Mass in 60 minutes.
I come from a Pro-test-ant background, Lutheran and Assembly of God. I’ve jumped a pew (astounding myself, actually) “rested in the Lord” (we called it “slain in the Spirit”) many times when prayed for. I’ve been to 2 and 3 hour Sunday Worship Services as an Assembly of God and 6 hour Sunday Worship when attending House of Refuge (all black church). And on a couple of occasions attended “all night” prayer services. Yes, start around 7 or 8 in the evening and end at 6 or 7 in the morning.
I have dreamed of a Catholic church offering an all night prayer service, starting it with Mass, having adoration, then maybe the Rosary and the Stations in between times of prayer, with soft organ music and some hymns or Gregorian chant in between those and then ending with Mass in the morning. To my mind, that would be an utmost spiritual occasion on the order of Seven Storey Mountain or Interior Castles. (Each book was a highlight of my journey into Catholicism.) But unfortunately, I’ve yet to have any Priest get permission from the Bishop for an all nighter. And most cradle-Catholics think I’m nutz when I try to get support for such an “outlandish” (that’s not Catholic) idea.
My journey into Catholicism isn’t complete. I have lots to learn . . . but I wonder how it was on that First Pentecost Day when tongues of fire came down . . . didn’t that occur after an ‘all night prayer meeting in the upper room?’