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Rorschach Exegesis: the Bible as Gay Manifesto (response to Newsweek's cover story)
Off The Record ^ | December 10, 2008 | Diogenes

Posted on 12/10/2008 10:36:20 AM PST by NYer

The current Newsweek has an article by Lisa Miller pretending to take seriously the idea that the Bible looks favorably upon homosexual love and is properly used in support rather than rejection of same-sex marriage.  Here's the final paragraph. 

My friend the priest James Martin says his favorite Scripture relating to the question of homosexuality is Psalm 139, a song that praises the beauty and imperfection in all of us and that glorifies God’s knowledge of our most secret selves: “I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made.” And then he adds that in his heart he believes that if Jesus were alive today, he would reach out especially to the gays and lesbians among us, for “Jesus does not want people to be lonely and sad.” Let the priest’s prayer be our own. 

"If Jesus were alive today ..." The blunder invites the obvious response: Has Jesus died AGAIN? Why weren't we told? 

Miller does not put those words in quotation marks, and it's a reasonable conjecture that they represent her own obtuseness rather than Fr. Martin's.  But there's an important doctrinal point to be made. Jesus IS alive, and he speaks to us, today, through his Vicar, the successor of Peter.  Such is the conviction of Catholics. And that Vicar has made it radiantly clear that sodomy is contrary to God's will and that marriage is effected between, and only between, a man and a woman. 

To justify her reading of the Bible as pro-gay, Miller cites a number of scholars -- or, at least, academics -- willing to discover in Holy Scripture homosexual enthusiasms that eluded earlier readers over the course of the last nineteen centuries or so.  Assembling such a posse is far from difficult. The Bible has always provided ample possibilities for cranks and charlatans to find divine approbation in its pages. In an article in First Things, Harvard Div School's Prof. Jon Levenson explained how, for example, the Nazi theorist Dr. Alfred Rosenberg succeeded in decontaminating the Bible of its compassion, mercy, and Syrian-African superstition, so as to find the true Nordic Christ at its heart.  Fifty years later the goddess theologian Carol Christ wrote that the God of the Bible is a "God of war who stands for too much that I stand against." As Levenson laconically remarks about Alfred and Carol, "It's hard to escape the conclusion that both are missing something." 

Well, when the reader of the Bible cuts the knot with Dei Verbum 10 and becomes his own ultimate umpire of scriptural interpretation, he'll find in the text exactly what he wants to find there.  Thus it's scarcely surprising that persons with newly emancipated sexual fervors have managed to connect the scriptural dots in ways invisible to preceding generations -- ways inhospitable, in fact, to generation full stop. Check out Miller's read on the friendship of David and Jonathan: "Here, the Bible praises enduring love between men. What Jonathan and David did or did not do in privacy is perhaps best left to history and our own imaginations." 

To your imagination, my dear. 


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: antichristian; celebratesin; downourthroats; falseprophet; gay; homonaziagenda; homopsychoagenda; homosexual; homosexualagenda; inourfaces; lavendermafia; lisamiller; lyingmedia; medialiars; newsweak; newsweek

1 posted on 12/10/2008 10:36:21 AM PST by NYer
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To: NYer

This would be comedic if it was not truly happening.


2 posted on 12/10/2008 10:37:39 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: NYer

Newsweek: Just doin’ the Devil’s work.


3 posted on 12/10/2008 10:37:42 AM PST by madison10
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
And from Carl Olson at Insight Scoop ....


A little bit more on that...thing...in Newsweek

Really, what do you call itthat thing featured on the cover of the December 15, 2008, issue of Newsweek? It's not journalism. It's not news. It's not coherent, logical, well-argued, or well-written.

Honestly, it reads like an essay tossed off by a partially-drunk, angry, sexually-confused sixteen-year-old who thinks Oprah is an intellectual giant and traditional Christianity is responsible for every ill in the world. Yet, the Newsweek blog claims that Miller "lays out the religious case for gay marriage"—in which case it appears there is no religious case for "gay marriage" other than "it's on its way, so you religious bigots need to accept it."

I've already addressed some of this, as you likely know, in a previous post. What I missed was Newsweek editor Jon Meacham's appalling and insulting editorial about Miller's article, which nearly accomplished the nigh impossible task of making Miller's piece sound reasoned and mature:

In this light it would seem to make sense for Americans to look anew at the underlying issues on the question of gay marriage. One can decide to oppose it in good faith, but such opposition should at least be forged by those in full possession of the relevant cultural and religious history and context. The reaction to this cover is not difficult to predict. Religious conservatives will say that the liberal media are once again seeking to impose their values (or their "agenda," a favorite term to describe the views of those who disagree with you) on a God-fearing nation. Let the letters and e-mails come. History and demographics are on the side of those who favor inclusion over exclusion. (As it has been with reform in America from the Founding forward.) The NEWSWEEK Poll confirms what other surveys have also found: that there is a decided generational difference on the issue, with younger people supporting gay marriage at a higher rate than older Americans. One era's accepted reality often becomes the next era's clear wrong. So it was with segregation, and so it will be, I suspect, with the sacrament of marriage.

Meacham would do well to remove the 50,000 acres old-growth timber from his eye before complaining about splinters in the eyes of those wretched, mentally-challenged religious conservatives. Miller's article not only fails to demonstrate a "full possession of the relevant cultural and religious history and context," it demonstrates a complete failure to even try to achieve such a possession. And of course religious conservatives are going to be upset with the piece; the fact that Meacham snidely and proudly says so indicates that it was written and printed to accomplish one thing and one thing only: anger those who are opposed to "gay marriage." Miller's piece, boiled down to its farcical essence, makes this "argument": Gays are wonderful and gay sex is beautiful, so gay marriage must be accepted.


4 posted on 12/10/2008 10:38:20 AM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

Good grief...and I thought Time was trash.....

[Well is IS but still....]


5 posted on 12/10/2008 10:40:47 AM PST by Adder (typical basicly decent bitter white person)
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To: madison10

AS the old saying goes:

Even the Devil can quote Scripture to suit his purposes.


6 posted on 12/10/2008 10:47:39 AM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: NYer

Every day the left is working feverishly to prove that my user name speaks the truth.


7 posted on 12/10/2008 10:48:58 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism = serious mental deficiency)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

And my tag line....


8 posted on 12/10/2008 10:53:30 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: NYer

I wonder how he explains away Leviticus 20:13 and Romans 1:26-32. God hates all forms of sexual deviancy.


9 posted on 12/10/2008 10:55:15 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: nonsporting
I wonder how he explains away Leviticus 20:13 and Romans 1:26-32. God hates all forms of sexual deviancy.

And explain Sodom and Gomorrah!

10 posted on 12/10/2008 10:58:27 AM PST by Conservative_Jedi (Give me Liberty or give me Death!!)
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To: Conservative_Jedi

I heard her on Laura Ingraham. She used the “living, breathing Bible” line, like they use with the Constitution. Then when a caller called her on it in regards to Abortion she dodged saying that the column wasn’t about abortion. B ut Laura called her on that saying, it was about her cherry picking the Bible to find things that aren’t there. She may as well say she sees support for gay Marriage in cloud and rock formations.


11 posted on 12/10/2008 11:14:27 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: NYer
“I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made.”


12 posted on 12/10/2008 11:25:52 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: NYer
he would reach out especially to the gays and lesbians among us

Yes, yes he would. And he would follow it up withwhat he told another sexually immoral person he reach out to, John 8:11 go, and sin no more.

13 posted on 12/10/2008 11:38:53 AM PST by bird4four4 (God Damn America!!! - Mr. Wright, your prayer has been answered 11-4-08)
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To: NYer

Brought to you by the same people who think that the Constitution is a living document:

Freedom of religion turned into freedom from religion.


14 posted on 12/10/2008 1:15:39 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: NYer
Al Cresta points out the fallacy in the first few sentence. She speaks of the biblical definition of marriage and then proceeds not to say what that definition is but to describe how biblical characters have departed from it in practice. But nowhere does she deal with Paul's exalted conception of marriage in Ephesians 5, which we Christians would take as a “definition.”
15 posted on 12/10/2008 3:38:50 PM PST by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: NYer

Just heard Laura Ingraham with Lisa Miller, and I think Miss Ingraham should have allowed Albert Moeller (Babtist seminary), who was also and with her at the same time, more opportunity to take Miller down with true knowledge of the Bible. Miller talked about how there is slavery and polygamy in the Bible (and so we must cherry pick what lessons to learn because these “biblical” lessons are clearly behind the times), but no one confronted her about how it is clear that these practices caused problems to whoever engaged in them in the Bible. Total pass on that. Miller also said that Christians have a high divorce rate, but again, where was the pinning Miller down on the fact that there is an ideal presented in the Bible that many are not living up to but we are blessed to the extent that we are. We are just not countering the Leftists effectively in my humble opinion.


16 posted on 12/10/2008 5:04:01 PM PST by WKTimpco (Traditional Values Counter Revolution)
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To: mvpel

Beautiful picture. Put a tear in my eye.


17 posted on 12/10/2008 5:06:45 PM PST by WKTimpco (Traditional Values Counter Revolution)
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To: NYer

Good post. Thank you.

However ....

****But there’s an important doctrinal point to be made. Jesus IS alive, and he speaks to us, today, through his Vicar, the successor of Peter.****

Uh, ..... no. Yes, Jesus lives. No He does not have a ‘Vicar’ here on earth.

If Jesus had meant to set up a religious system in the mode of the one that murdered Him ( High Priest and all that rot) He would have told us so. He did not. So papists can take their one little misunderstood half a verse and go fish.


18 posted on 12/10/2008 5:21:27 PM PST by gost2
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To: NYer
Honestly, it reads like an essay tossed off by a partially-drunk, angry, sexually-confused sixteen-year-old who thinks Oprah is an intellectual giant and traditional Christianity is responsible for every ill in the world.

LOL, well said, good one. Oprah's working on it, with her new spirituality that her fans are sapping up and the media does what it can to make Christianity seem a horror worse than Hitler or other like him. Sigh. And it definitely appeals to some of the audience, who approach issues like angry teens.

19 posted on 12/10/2008 5:32:25 PM PST by fortunecookie (Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
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To: NYer

“Honestly, it reads like an essay tossed off by a partially-drunk, angry, sexually-confused sixteen-year-old who thinks Oprah is an intellectual giant and traditional Christianity is responsible for every ill in the world.”

The fact that her editors defend her article might signify that they want someone at her intellectual level to continue preach this pablum to the masses, despite the piece’s abject lack of intellectual sustainability. It was clear from her performance on the Laura Ingraham Show today that Miller truly is not up to the task from an intellectual perspective. I think an intellect with true firepower would be too ashamed to even get on the radio to defend the piece.

Simultaneously, Newsweek is looking into the idea of becoming a “thought leader” as opposed to a large-circulation news periodical, when all they need to do to regain readership is stay honest regardless of where it leads them on the ideological scale.

Who can still say that the mainstream media is still a for-profit industry when a (former) mainstay like Newsweek would rather follow its ideological underpinnings down to its logical conclusion in terms of declining readership

What besides our consumer choices should be our response?

Anyone?


20 posted on 12/10/2008 6:04:00 PM PST by WKTimpco (Traditional Values Counter Revolution)
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To: gost2

I agree He doesn’t have a Vicar, but He does have vicars (representatives). I believe in the Bible’s claim about the priesthood of all believers, which I think you would agree with....


21 posted on 12/10/2008 6:06:21 PM PST by WKTimpco (Traditional Values Counter Revolution)
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To: WKTimpco

yup


22 posted on 12/11/2008 5:21:40 PM PST by gost2
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To: padre35
Even the Devil can quote Scripture to suit his purposes.
The Devil is much better at quoting Scripture than Lisa Miller is.
23 posted on 12/26/2008 6:24:46 PM PST by dbz77
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