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To: vladimir998
On the face of it, I find this link as convincing as anything you grabbed off the internet:

The only thing I have grabbed off the internet is the calendar. Everything else is from the pages of scripture.

Here's what we know. As posted in #78....we know He had a three year ministry from the references in John to the Passovers he celebrated during that ministry. We know that he began his ministry from about the age of 30 [Luke 3:23]. We also know that young Hebrew males did not start their evangelistic works until they were thirty [Numbers 4:3][Numbers 4:23][Numbers 4:29].

We know that He was born before 1085 because Josephus and other historical figures have written of him prior to that (church fathers anyone?) DUH!

The New Testament does not provide us with the exact year but we can certainly delve into other historical sources and determine an approximation of the year. For instance....The days of Herod [Matthew 2:1] and we know when Herod died! So, if Our Lord was alive when Herod was reigning He most certainly had to been born before Herod died.

Josephus [Antiquities Book 14; Chapter 14; Paragraph 5] Antony also feasted Herod the first day of his reign. And thus did this man receive the kingdom, having obtained it on the hundred and eighty-fourth Olympiad, when Caius Domitius Calvinus was consul the second time, and Caius Asinius Pollio [the first time]. An Olympiad is four years, reckoned from July to July. The 184th Olympiad was July 44 B.C. to July 40 B.C. and Calvinus and Pollio were consuls in the year 714 AUC which means....from the founding of Rome.

Herod reigned 37 years [Josephus "Antiquities 17:8:1] so we know that from the mid 40's B.C. during the 184th Olympiad it would place his death around 5/3 B.C. This places Our Saviour's birth to at least this time or before. Herod's reign ended when he died. See how easy it is?

But I realize when facts and scripture go against your tradition....tradition wins every time.

80 posted on 08/20/2008 6:52:04 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618

You wrote:

“We know that He was born before 1085 because Josephus and other historical figures have written of him prior to that (church fathers anyone?) DUH!”

Oh, no my friend. You see you have been fooled by the evil Catholic conspiracy according to that Russian scientist Anatoly T.Fomenko. He believs and presents four big fat volumes (two col. pages !) - 1 (624 pages), 2 (560 pages), 3 (824 pages), 4 (727 pages) - all pointing to the idea that our calendar is a fraud. He also claims that astronomical data proves him correct. A growing number of people believe him.

Fomenko’s theory is causing such a stir that it already has a volume examining both sides of the issue written by Florin Diacu, “a polyglot and erudite mathematician” in 320 pages. And I am surprised a Judaizer like you hasn’t picked up a copy of V. Melamed R. Grishin’s The Medieval Empire of the Israelites which runs to a mere 486 pages and goes along with Fomenko’s idea.

In other words, even intelligent people fool themselves with strange ideas thinking they’ve come across a truth few realized before. You fall in that category too.

Also, if you look through google books, you’ll see that scholars of every stripe come up with all sorts of years for Christ’s death from AD 28 - 37. I checked earlier tonight out of curiosity and found that nine year spread. See how easy that is?

See how your tradition is shown to be no better than those other Protestant or Judaizing traditions?


81 posted on 08/20/2008 7:30:21 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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