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Vatican, "God made people out of pre-human apes."
Catholic News Service ^ | 5/28/08 | Carol Glatz

Posted on 05/28/2008 10:38:31 AM PDT by Keli Kilohana

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- While apes evolved naturally into pre-human creatures, it was the will and desire of God that turned them into humans, an article in the Vatican newspaper said.

"The formation of human beings necessitated a particular contribution by God, though it remains that their emergence was brought about by natural causes" of evolution, it said.

(Excerpt) Read more at catholicnews.com ...


TOPICS: Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: evolution; pope; prehuman; vatican
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If the RC Church denies the miracle of creation, how long will it be until it denies the miracle of the Virgin Birth?
1 posted on 05/28/2008 10:38:32 AM PDT by Keli Kilohana
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To: Keli Kilohana
It is extremely dishonest of you to try to represent this as some kind of Church statement.

It is a statement by Fiorenzo Facchini, a scientist with no doctrinal authority, in the course of an interview with the Vatican newspaper.

The newspaper interviews all sorts of people with all sorts of viewpoints, including novelists, film producers etc.

2 posted on 05/28/2008 10:48:10 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Keli Kilohana

How is the Vatican denying the miracle of creation?

It’s pretty clear they’re denying it happened the way you seem to think it happened, based on your own personal interpretation of Genesis, but how are they denying that God formed man from clay?


3 posted on 05/28/2008 10:48:13 AM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Keli Kilohana

When the catholic church is more science-friendly than you are, the problem may be yours...


4 posted on 05/28/2008 10:48:19 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Keli Kilohana

To prevent duplication, please do not alter the headline. Thanks.


5 posted on 05/28/2008 10:48:50 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Keli Kilohana

... and they think Protestants have erred.


6 posted on 05/28/2008 10:49:06 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Keli Kilohana

Are “articles in the vatican newspaper” always official church doctrine? If so, something has gone horribly wrong.


7 posted on 05/28/2008 10:49:14 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: wideawake

Thanks. That answers the question I just asked in another comment, and it’s what I suspected, that this was not church doctrine.


8 posted on 05/28/2008 10:50:11 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Keli Kilohana

Im not Catholic but you are so far off base its pathetic.


9 posted on 05/28/2008 10:51:25 AM PDT by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: babble-on

Scientifically speaking,

How does the Red Sea part? For that matter, how does manna fall from the heavens?

Spontaneous resurrection is a tricky science, too. As is instant sight to the blind, and the curing of disease by touch.

P.S. How does a virgin get pregnant - scientifically speaking, that is?


10 posted on 05/28/2008 10:53:12 AM PDT by TitansAFC (May no Republican ever win in NY again - unless they're foreign-born.)
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To: Keli Kilohana
That's all folks . They are a cult . Start making up names for them . It is not original , but because we had to eat dried school lunch fish every Friday , I have always enjoyed yelling out “Mackerel Snapper “. The downside is Catholics don't seem to take offense enough to really enjoy it .
11 posted on 05/28/2008 10:56:39 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: wideawake

Good point.


12 posted on 05/28/2008 10:58:08 AM PDT by RightWhale (You are reading this now)
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i almost got sucked in by the headline too...pretty disengenuous...

im a catholic creationist, and i will be doggoned if im going to let some evolutionary biologist tell me how God created man...and then try to pass that off as the view of the church..

sheesh...


13 posted on 05/28/2008 11:01:35 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: Keli Kilohana

Ping to read later


14 posted on 05/28/2008 11:01:58 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: Keli Kilohana

OK, maybe a tad too much fruit of the vine, but...

If the course of evolution would not have led to the emergence of the human specie without participation by the hand of God, why would anyone of any scientific integrity refer to the creatures from which God created man as ‘pre-human’? Wouldn’t it be more scientifically correct to refer to them as non-human terminal?

OK, I’ll have another, barkeep...


15 posted on 05/28/2008 11:02:36 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

No they are not doctrine. This is not by any stretch of the imagination a statement of belief by the Church. It’s an interview in a newspaper. When you Benedict XVI say this then you can take it as Church Teaching.


16 posted on 05/28/2008 11:02:58 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Keli Kilohana

“While apes evolved naturally into pre-human creatures”

Does beg the question, Why do we still have Apes?


17 posted on 05/28/2008 11:04:47 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Keli Kilohana

You are a liar.


18 posted on 05/28/2008 11:06:15 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Resolute Conservative

Read the article and then correct your post.


19 posted on 05/28/2008 11:12:58 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: TitansAFC

“How does the Red Sea part?”

Whack it with a stick.

“how does manna fall from the heavens?”

Gravity.

“How does a virgin get pregnant”

Classified...


20 posted on 05/28/2008 11:13:58 AM PDT by Enosh (†)
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