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To: Campion
The usual argument is that Peter went to "Babylon". Ask an Iraqi Christian -- Catholic or Orthodox or Nestorian -- who founded the Church in Iraq. They won't say "Peter".

Well.....let's see now. Our Lord tell Peter and the other eleven not to preach among the Gentiles [Matthew 10:5-6].....but you folks insist that Peter did. Peter is never shown to be in Rome but does indeed admit to being in Babylon [1 Peter 5:13] which is where a large population of Israelites lived....descendants of those of the dispersion [II Kings 25:8-11]. This happens to be one of the places The Lord told him to go....to the Lost Sheep of Israel!

Peter then writes to other Israelites of the dispersion along the shores of the Black Sea: [1 Peter 1:1-2] Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

The Greek for "Strangers scattered" is [3927. parepidemos (par-ep-id'-ay-mos) An alien alongside or a resident foreigner] [1290. diaspora (dee-as-por-ah') An Israelite resident in Gentile countries]

So scripture itself shows Peter among the Israelites in Babylon writing to Israelites in Asia Minor but never shows Peter in Rome! I guess you just have to ask yourself....if it was so important for Peter to have been there and done that......why didn't scripture even hint at it? The answer to that question is: It wasn't important to God....only to some people's false tradition!

Paul reiterates the assignments that The Lord gave them both in [Galatians 2:7]: But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter. For those of you in Rio Linda this means......"Paul, go to the Gentiles! Peter, go to the Israelites!"

In fact Paul is even told to stay out of Peter's territory: [Acts 16:6-8] Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia, After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them no. And they passing by Mysia came down to Troas. In other words....."Paul....stay out of there!"

You folks have a very weak case and it's about time you gave up the charade. Peter was never in Rome!

22 posted on 01/31/2008 8:15:59 PM PST by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618

Because Peter had been in Asia, and had been a missionary in Asia, he was in Babylon in Iraq? Look at your map. From the site of Babylon to Asia Minor is a long way, five or six hundred miles, and in those days not part of the Roman Empire. Why would he not move on to Rome, anyway, since that was the capitol of the Empire? Paul certain aimed to go there after his visit to Jerusalem. Why should not Peter have gone? because it is not recorded in the Bible? Much is not recorded in the Bible. Indeed, if one reads Acts, we have only the sketchiest information about twenty years of Paul’s life, even as Luke focuses on him. Not until after he returns to Jerusalem for the last time do we get any detailed information.


29 posted on 01/31/2008 9:04:06 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: Diego1618

Amen.


46 posted on 02/01/2008 12:24:33 AM PST by kevinw
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To: Diego1618

Matthew 10:5-6: “Jesus sent out these twelve 4 after instructing them thus, ‘Do not go into pagan territory or enter a Samaritan town. Go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.’”

You really believe that this was meant to forbid the disciples from preaching the resurrection to the gentiles? How about this line: “Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations.”

But back on the subject:

How does any of what you wrote demonstrate Peter was in Iraq? The city of Babylon had been utterly destroyed, completely desolate.

That Paul was the founder of the Church at Rome is flatly false. Paul writes the Letter to the Romans to the those who are already Christians in Rome. But Paul plainly had never been to Rome (yet): “I do not want you to be unaware, brothers, 8 that I often planned to come to you, though I was prevented until now, that I might harvest some fruit among you, too, as among the rest of the Gentiles.”


55 posted on 02/01/2008 6:28:41 AM PST by dangus
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To: Diego1618

There was a considerable population of Jews in Rome as well.


80 posted on 02/01/2008 8:40:31 AM PST by Augustinian monk (Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin - Romans 4:8)
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To: Diego1618
Our Lord tell Peter and the other eleven not to preach among the Gentiles [Matthew 10:5-6].....but you folks insist that Peter did.

There were Jews in Rome.

175 posted on 02/02/2008 10:53:24 AM PST by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: Diego1618
Our Lord tell Peter and the other eleven not to preach among the Gentiles [Matthew 10:5-6].....but you folks insist that Peter did.

Please recall the dream of Peter:
"26 But Peter made him get up. "Stand up," he said, "I am only a man myself." 27 Talking with him, Peter went inside and found a large gathering of people. 28 He said to them: "You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with a Gentile or visit him. But God has shown me that I should not call any man impure or unclean."
-Acts 10:26-28

177 posted on 02/02/2008 11:00:58 AM PST by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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