Posted on 10/31/2007 11:48:35 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
How to determine when Joel Osteen is speaking heresy:
HAHAHAHAHA - outstanding
he’s not a bad guy, is he?
He’s a happy little heretic.
i like his speaking style, he is very smooth in front of an audience. but for the truth of Christ, i would rather listen to the power voice and true christian teachings from Bishop Fulton J. Sheen.
This is horrible, and certainly not funny. This is not satire. This fine young man is a wonderful Christian author and evangelist. Whenever I can catch his program on TV, I watch and pay attention.
He might be an evangelist, but Christianity isn’t what he is selling.
Or Dr. Scott
of course, Scott Rox!!
That’s a great slap in the face to the poor suckers who actually follow this guy...a slap they desperately need (Snap out of it!).
After seeing him on Larry King, I see the problem. He thinks because his dad was a preacher he’s one.
And you would know heresy if you saw it because...? ;-)
(I’d better read up on him and find out why he’s a heretic.)
Speaking of heresy, beware the emerging church, contemplative spirituality, and purpose-driven anything!
Roger that. A wolf in sheep's clothing.
I always admired Dr. Scott. He was honest, he didn't pretend he was doing anything but pocketing the money. "Contributions are NOT tax deductable".
He'd even show video of his horses and his harem, so you'd know the contributions were being put to beneficial use.
Another problem with Osteen is his prosperity gospel madness. It is one of the most dangerous and self centered movements in the Church today.
“i like his speaking style, he is very smooth in front of an audience”
Kinda like Bill Clinton or Jim Jones?
He reminds me of a used car salesman at a tote your note carlot, selling junk.
Reminds me of the character Elmer Gantry times 10.
What he is saying about Romney’s beliefs in that he and Romney both worship the same Jesus is heresy. Politics aside it takes about 10 minutes worth of reading to understand that Mormons can call themselves Christians but they are not. Osteen said he had deeply investigated Mormonism, he either lied to sound goo don tv or he is a heretic.
Bishop Sheen/Scott Hahn
my dynamic duo
Not funny at all.
He’s plastic. Preacher-man Ken.
That thread said nothing about the fact they think that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers in heaven, unless I missed it. They in fact were not. Lucifer is a created being and Jesus has always been.
My post was in response to the above comment.
Thank you. I am sorry if I appeared to be correcting you.
Osteeen denies the Atonement of Christ and teaches a concept of faith that comes straight from the witchcraft of Madame Blavatsky's theosophy, being that faith is a universal force in the universe like gravity, and that you can harness that force, attach it to your words, and use it to create your own reality.
That concept is pure witchcraft.
You forgot the sarcasm tag: /s
Many focus upon the wealth he accumulated. So what? Have you ever viewed the collection of biblical texts he purchased with much of the funds sent to him, and have you listened to him while he expounded the precious value of parallel texts that verify the context and teaching of the Bible? One of the ancillary values of a man like Gene Scott is the opportunity to see a man with his flaws still being the tool of the Almighty. In the end, there is only one like him this side of Paul, who one can rightly surmise opened the Septuagint texts to a lost world, and whom still opens the Gospel of Grace to anyone willing to read.
There are three or four sermons Scott preached that are unrivaled in History! The truths are so clearly revealed that even I could write the message for you at the drop of a hat, like the resurrection sermon he preached every Easter. His teaching in Romans has yet to be fully appreciated. Perhaps Melissa can get it into manuscript form int he not so distant months, for edification of the world.
For the record, Osteen is a conman who may have actually come to believe his own lies. And of course, his prosperity hooey has made him very prosperous. One thinks of that scripture verse about gainign the whole world but losing one's soul. Kind of like the 'purpose driven' wealth of another con artist draped in a false christianity robes.
LOL! Priceless. Someone better ping the Q-man! I’m not gonna...
Osteen has also been criticized for not having any theological training. Osteen has received a BA in television production, but did not study theology or religion in college, and has never attended a Seminary.[18]
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Osteen
I’ve never heard of him, so I did a Google.
You are right about Gene Scott!
He was one of a kind and a superb teacher!
For more insight on how to determine the deceptive lies that spew forth from Joel’s mouth, I submit:
http://www.apprising.org/archives/2005/10/joel_osteen_smi.html
and
http://www.oldtruth.com/blog.cfm/id.2.pid.85
It is the nature of deception for the one being deceived to be ignorant of his condition.
He can’t preach his way out of a paper bag. May as well replace him with Tony Robbins or Stuart Smalley.
Oh well you should probably leave this thread and go make yourself feel better by watching ApostOsteen then because it really is good satire.
posted by Reformation Nation
Here’s a treat that you are sure to enjoy. Listen to this (9:30) audio clip Paul Washer vs Joel Osteen and see if you can spot a difference in their theologies. Thanks to Way of the Master Radio (WOTM) for putting this audio together (and my wife for finding it).
You’re kidding, right?
Osteen is a huckster who would make Elmer Gantry proud.
HA! Exactly.
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Osteen seems like a decent person, but I find your post totally funny.
The Q-man?
Do you mean Quix?
This cat looks like a real charlatan to me.
Wow.
I guess you’ve never been fooled in all of your life?
Me, too. He’s an encourager and God knows we can use some of that these days.
The Q-man?Do you mean Quix?
Who else?
Jim 0216 response: Hmmm, lets take a look.
http://apprising.org/2008/03/arminians-come-out-of-the-seeker-sensitive-movement/ From ARMINIANS COME OUT OF THE SEEKER SENSITIVE MOVEMENT:
Each of these teachers of a false Christianity encourage people, in similar words, to make some kind of a decision to follow the way of God in Jesus.
This is false teaching?
And a good question is: When is the last time you heard this preached by leaders within postevangelcalism and the emerging church?
Every time Osteen preaches he invites people to receive the Lord Jesus into their heart. Joel Osteen's calling is Pastor, primarily helping Christians to grow (v. Whitefield, an Evangelist focussed on the unsaved).
From JOEL OSTEEN CROSSLESS “CHRISTIANITY”:
UNABLE TO FIND ANYTHING RELATED TO THIS CHARGE
So far this site comes up with empty and false charges. Looks like the Pharisees are alive and well on planet earth.
From JOHN OSTEEN AND JOEL OSTEEN:
Osteen is on record as fully endorsing the WOF errant concepts surrounding financial prosperity: It’s God’s will for you to live in prosperity instead of poverty. It’s God’s will for you to pay your bills and not be in debt. It’s God’s will for you to live in health and not in sickness all the days of your life. In the above sermon we can see the Health & Wealth “gospel” summed up three sentences. So despite the good things that John Osteen did as a Pastor he got ensnared by the subtlety of false teaching and ended up misleading millions before his death.
Have you never read, Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.(3 John 2) As usual, the Pharisees lack knowledge and understanding of God's Word.
So far, the charges leveled at Joel Osteen's message come up empty.
From pillut48: Personally, he gives me the creeps somehow, he's too slick or something, like Mitt Romney...
Jim 0216 response: I don't like him either, but I love his message. So far, I've found his words to be scripturally sound, vibrant, and life-changing, something the Body of Christ needs and the Pharisees and the Devil hates.
Jim 0216 response: Hmmm, lets take a look.
http://apprising.org/2008/03/arminians-come-out-of-the-seeker-sensitive-movement/
From ARMINIANS COME OUT OF THE SEEKER SENSITIVE MOVEMENT:
Each of these teachers of a false Christianity encourage people, in similar words, to make some kind of a decision to follow the way of God in Jesus.
This is false teaching?
And a good question is: When is the last time you heard this preached by leaders within postevangelcalism and the emerging church?
Every time Osteen preaches he invites people to receive the Lord Jesus into their heart. Joel Osteen's calling is Pastor, primarily helping Christians to grow (v. Whitefield, an Evangelist focussed on the unsaved).
From JOEL OSTEEN CROSSLESS “CHRISTIANITY”:
UNABLE TO FIND ANYTHING RELATED TO THIS CHARGE
So far this site comes up with empty and false charges. Looks like the Pharisees are alive and well on planet earth.
From JOHN OSTEEN AND JOEL OSTEEN:
Osteen is on record as fully endorsing the WOF errant concepts surrounding financial prosperity: It’s God’s will for you to live in prosperity instead of poverty. It’s God’s will for you to pay your bills and not be in debt. It’s God’s will for you to live in health and not in sickness all the days of your life. In the above sermon we can see the Health & Wealth “gospel” summed up three sentences. So despite the good things that John Osteen did as a Pastor he got ensnared by the subtlety of false teaching and ended up misleading millions before his death.
Have you never read, Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.(3 John 2)? As usual, the Pharisees lack knowledge and understanding of God's Word.
So far, the charges leveled at Joel Osteen's message come up empty.
From pillut48: Personally, he gives me the creeps somehow, he's too slick or something, like Mitt Romney...
Jim 0216 response: I don't like him either, but I love his message. So far, I've found his words to be scripturally sound, vibrant, and life-changing, something the Body of Christ needs and the Pharisees and the Devil hates.
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My bad, this is not a ping list.
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