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To: Grunthor

I admit, I did not use technical theological terminology. You don’t often see that on FR, anyway.

But if you are in a state of grace, then your huamn will becomes merged with divine Logos, and you see the desires of the body as they really are, weaknesses for which you have no need.


45 posted on 10/28/2007 5:34:47 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user

“But if you are in a state of grace, then your huamn will becomes merged with divine Logos, and you see the desires of the body as they really are, weaknesses for which you have no need.”

You wouldn’t happen to know where I could find that in the Bible do ya?


66 posted on 10/28/2007 5:46:59 PM PDT by Grunthor (Christmas is a time when people of all religions come together to worship Jesus Christ.)
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To: proxy_user

“human will becomes merged with divine Logos”

God’s shekinah glory dwells in your “personal” glory seat, but I’m not sure if its a total merging or more of an embrionic recreation of one’s inner spiritual man which will shuck away the perishing outer man like a butterfly shucks away its old chrysalis.

The Bible speaks of God giving “each of his children their own “white stones with their names written on it, known only by that child and God himself”.

I suspect the relationship in the future will be much the same as Christ has with his father...”For behold we are the sons of God, but it doesn’t yet appear what we shall be...for we know that when he shall appear, we shall be LIKE HIM for we SHALL SEE HIM AS HE IS!”

Our wills are not merged they are RECREATED becoming outwarding directed conduits of God’s glory and love!

Why do you think Christ declared that those who did his father’s will would be considered as “stars of heaven”? The newly perfected wills of men will shine out for all eternity with the Glory of God! Each person will have his own personality and identity but within the total will of God(one’s own white stone with our own unique signature known only to self and to God) similar to the relationship Christ has with his father!


172 posted on 10/28/2007 8:19:47 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: proxy_user

Your post involves a confusion of the persons of the All-Holy Trinity, and perhaps an error in Christology.

The Fathers teach that what He (Christ) is by nature, we are to become by grace. (cf. 2nd Peter and Christ’s own quotation of the psalm verse “I have said ye are gods” for the Scriptural basis).

Grace, however, involves the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Trinity, not union with the Divine Logos, the second person, who is Christ—save in the sense that the Church, bound together by the Spirit is His mystical body, and we are united to His Body and Blood in the Holy Eucharist.

Even so, even in Christ Himself, His human will did not ‘merge’ with the pre-eternal Word. That is the error of monotheltism—an attempt to compromise between Orthodoxy which upholds the unity of Christ’s person and the duality of His natures, human and divine, with monophysitism that holds His humanity ‘merged’ with His divinity—and error for which Patriarch Sergius of Constantinople and Pope Honorius of Rome were anathematized by the Sixth Ecumenical Council.


256 posted on 10/29/2007 7:29:56 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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