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To: kawaii; Kolokotronis

What's the EP doing that's provoking this reaction? I couldn't understand that last paragraph in the article.


6 posted on 11/22/2006 10:15:55 AM PST by Claud
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To: Claud

A few years back the Orthodox in Estonia wanted to schism and form their own church, and the EP rubber stamped them.

About a year ago, an MP Bishop asked the MP to move his parish under the EP hoping to focus on non-immigrants. The MP said no, and the EP took the Bishop, though not the parish. To do this the EP is SUPPOSED to get a letter from the MP releasing the Bishop first.

Most recently a church under the EP in the United States (one of a slew of splinter Ukrainian Orthodox churches) invited the head of yet another schismatic church in Ukraine for dinner, and apparently prayer. The head they invited is a former MP bishop who was defrocked, who subsequently started his own church amid vapid nationalist banter. He's also auded to coming into communion with Catholics; its not hard to question the Orthodoxy of said Bishop (Filaret), and thus wonder why a more less canonical EP church would be inviting him as the guest of honor at dinners.

Also the EP has been reguraly intervening in lands which at least for the last 500 years or so have been considered canonically to be under the Russian church, putting schismatic national churches directly under the EP.

Frankly it seems like a sad attempt to increase the EP's control over Orthodoxy, more than 70% is under the Russian church directly or indirectly. And growing with the ROCOR-MP union.


7 posted on 11/22/2006 10:24:03 AM PST by kawaii
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To: Claud; kawaii

I know virtually nothing about this situation, but as always, take what comes out of Moscow with a grain, or perhaps a pound, of salt (same goes for Constantinople too, by the way).

Here's a link which attempts to explain what's happening. I have no idea if it is accurate but at least it doesn't seem polemical.

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Diocese_of_Sourozh


8 posted on 11/22/2006 10:28:31 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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