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Megapastor Rick Warren's Damascus Road experience
WorldNet Daily ^ | 11/20/2006 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 11/20/2006 6:23:25 PM PST by Alex Murphy

WASHINGTON – Rick Warren, the superstar mega-church pastor and bestselling author of ''The Purpose Driven Life,'' had a Damascus Road experience last week – and like Saul of Tarsus, one of the after-effects appears to be blindness.

Warren went to Syria and could find no persecution of Christians. He could find no persecution of Jews. He could find no evidence of extremism. He could find no evidence of the sponsorship of terrorism.

Despite the temporary loss of vision that prevented him from seeing any evil in the totalitarian police state, Warren's hearing was apparently not affected – for his ears were tickled by what he heard and apparently accepted lock, stock and barrel from the second-generation dictator, Bashar Assad, and his state-approved mufti.

But that's not the story Warren is telling – at least not in the official press releases he is sending out from Rwanda in response to my confrontations with him last week in which I accused him of betraying his own country in a hostile foreign land and of being a propaganda tool of the Islamo-fascist regime in Damascus.

In fact, after I called him out last week in my column, Warren e-mailed me claiming to have been misquoted by the official Syrian news agency.

''Joseph, why didn't you contact me first and discover the fact that I said nothing of the sort?'' he pleaded. ''The trip was a favor to my next door neighbor, had nothing to do with policy, and was done with the State Department's knowledge – who told us to expect exactly what Syria did – a PR blast. I don't pretend to be a diplomat. I'm a pastor who just gets invited places.''

I pointed out to Warren that WND had indeed attempted to contact him about his trip. No one from his Saddleback Church ever returned our calls the day the story broke.

''I'm sure since you were warned in advance by the State Department that you took the precaution of recording your own words,'' I suggested in my response. ''We look forward to seeing the transcripts or hearing the recordings.''

I also asked if he could respond specifically to the words put in his mouth by the Syrian news agency. And lastly I suggested that he should have ''counseled with me, or other people knowledgeable about the Middle East before doing so much damage with your reckless trip.''

I really didn't expect to hear back from Warren – but, a few minutes later, I did, with an absolutely stunning retort.

He let me know he is a close friend of President Bush ''and many, if not most, of the generals at the Pentagon.''

He also told me he did not tape anything while in Syria, ''because it was a courtesy call, like I do in every country.''

Warren explained that he had also counseled with the National Security Council and the White House, as well as the State Department, before his little courtesy call for a neighbor.

''In fact,'' Warren added, ''as a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and Oxford Analytica, I might know as much about the Middle East as you.''

He continued: ''I hope you'll not choose to believe Syrian propaganda even though, as you pointed out at the start of your article, you've been wanting to criticize me for some time. In spite of your rush to judgment, I think you write great, insightful columns. You are almost batting 1,000.''

No sooner had I received this surprising response from Warren, I also got an e-mail providing a link to a YouTube video of Rick Warren in Syria explaining how great the Assad regime treats Christians and Jews and how Damascus ''does not permit extremism of any kind.''

Not one to let lies go unchallenged, I wrote back to Warren with a link to the YouTube video: ''If you didn't tape anything, what's this? Do you really believe Syria does not allow extremism of any kind? There are more terrorist organizations based in Syria than anywhere else in the world!''

It might be that Rick Warren, deep in the bush of Rwanda, never received those last questions, because he never responded – at least not in the last three days.

He did, however, within minutes make sure the YouTube video he recorded independent of his meetings with the Syrian brown shirts was removed from the network. Vanished. Kaput. Sterilized. Cleansed.

Stay tuned for more on Rick Warren's ''Agenda-Driven Life'' in the coming days – sponsored, of course, by the Council on Foreign Relations.


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: cfr; evangelical; rickwarren
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Note: this is a follow-up to Joseph Farah's first editorial, which I posted to FR last week.

''In fact,'' Warren added, ''as a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and Oxford Analytica, I might know as much about the Middle East as you.''

Oh, that qualification is going to go over great with the global conspiracy crowds....

1 posted on 11/20/2006 6:23:25 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

I'm not such a Farah fan, nor do I get into church squabbles, but the first coupla paragraphs were very well written.


2 posted on 11/20/2006 6:27:04 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (* nuke * the * jihad *)
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To: Inishglora

It's still not too late to learn to NOT LISTEN to what totalitarians say you said.


4 posted on 11/20/2006 6:29:13 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Alex Murphy

Pastors who think they can venture into politics and remain "neutral" are unspeakbly naive.


5 posted on 11/20/2006 6:35:34 PM PST by Taliesan
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To: Inishglora

Warren lost me when he said God doesnt want Christians to be wealthy in Newsweek I think.


6 posted on 11/20/2006 6:38:41 PM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Alex Murphy

Rick Warren has crossed over the line to being an enemy of the body of Christ.

If anyone on FR goes to his church, you should leave, and begin working out your salvation with fear and trembling.


7 posted on 11/20/2006 6:39:09 PM PST by farmer18th
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To: Alex Murphy

Already posted.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1741468/posts


8 posted on 11/20/2006 6:42:42 PM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: Alex Murphy

Yes, and it also tells me that this man, held up by so many, is half a bubble off plumb.

But at least he believes his life has a Purpose.


9 posted on 11/20/2006 6:44:40 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: muawiyah

The Syrian thing ... I figure you can't believe anything out of Syria, and Joseph Farah's got his own Agenda-Driven Life.

But inviting Barack Obama to speak at his church is pure poison.


10 posted on 11/20/2006 6:44:44 PM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: Inishglora

Any "Scripture" that includes "live-birth abortion" is straight from Satan. I've been completely neutral on Mr. Warren up until now - many nice people I know have found his books helpful - but one has to assume he's flipped when he invited Obama into his pulpit.


12 posted on 11/20/2006 7:07:53 PM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: ConservativeMind
But at least he believes his life has a Purpose.

13 posted on 11/20/2006 7:14:59 PM PST by Lee N. Field
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To: Alex Murphy

***Warren went to Syria and could find no persecution of Christians. He could find no persecution of Jews. He could find no evidence of extremism. ***

And Walter Duranty found perfection in the USSR in the 1920's and '30's.

Maybe Warren will get a Pulitzer also.


14 posted on 11/20/2006 7:16:26 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Inishglora

A little power, a little money, a little politics. Always thought everyone should own their own church.


16 posted on 11/20/2006 8:13:37 PM PST by gotribe (There's still time to begin a war in Iraq.)
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To: aft_lizard

God wants us to prosper. He's the one who gives wealth. I don't believe in the name it and claim it kind of prosperity but when your soul prospers, you prosper in many different ways, even financially. Christians who are wealthy should be sharing that with others in need. I wish I could do more to send kids who want to be missionaries. Since I can no longer go anywhere like that, I feel it's important to help send those who can. It's not money that's the problem. It's your attitude about it and what you do that counts.


17 posted on 11/20/2006 8:57:44 PM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Alex Murphy
It shouldn't be too hard for Warren to issue a statement clarifying the Syria remarks. We're waiting...and waiting...and waiting...

BTW-Where are all the Warren supporters these days?

18 posted on 11/21/2006 2:15:07 AM PST by HarleyD (Mat 19:11 "But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Hitler had a purpose driven life, if I recall....


19 posted on 11/21/2006 5:11:04 AM PST by Bainbridge
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To: HarleyD
BTW-Where are all the Warren supporters these days?

You know, it's quite a statement about one's priorities (and discernment) that so many previously refused to abandon Warren when he was promoting bad theology and lousy exegesis - and so many have withdrawn support from the good ship Saddleback, now that Warren is out promoting politically/socially liberal causes and personalities.

20 posted on 11/21/2006 10:46:39 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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