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The New Case Against the NIV, NASB, NRSV, ... bible versions
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Posted on 06/25/2006 11:23:05 AM PDT by freedom9

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The Message ... all » - The emerging 'new' Christianty---with its substitution of riches for righteous, a crown for a cross, and an imitation for a new creation---is shown to be a direct result of the wording in the new versions.

Documented are the thousands of words, verses, and doctrines by which new versions will prepare the aspostate churches of these last days to accept the religion of the Antichrist--even his mark, image, and Lucifer worship. The Men -

Each page opens a door exposing new version editors--in agreement with Luciferians, occultists, and New Age philosophy--in mental institutions, seance parlors, prison cells, and court rooms for heresy trials--and most shocking of all--denying that salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ. Five have lost their ability to speak.

The Manuscripts - The Greek manuscripts, critical editions, lexicons and dictionaries behind the new versions are examined, revealing their occult origins, contents, and yet unreleased material--a blueprint for the Antichrist's One World Religion and government. THE TEACHERS and their 74 AUDIO MESSAGES with filenames:


TOPICS: Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: bible; bibleversions; niv
This is long, but intresting video with an intellegent, conservative? lady that explains in depth why different Bible versions should be avoided. Link to Video
1 posted on 06/25/2006 11:23:10 AM PDT by freedom9
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To: freedom9

There is plenty of reason to be critical of a lot of what's going on with the inclusive language in translations, and even high level scholarly reasons why one might prefer one standardized text used for translation over another (there are 3, not just 2 major sets, btw).

But this is an ad hominem attack. Those type of things are never justified. If your case won't stand up without attacking the person's character, then you don't have a case. Moreover, it is calumny.

Myself, I used the Revised Standard Version as my mainstay, but I read all the decent translations and know why some things happen the way they do.

The inclusive language stuffis because people want to recreate the Bible with modern sensibilities. And those modern sensibilities are the real problem.

IMHO


2 posted on 06/25/2006 11:31:42 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: freedom9

I use several Bibles including the KJV, NIV, NASB 1995, NRSV, ESV, NLB and those in the original languages. I find the KJV lacking in many areas.


3 posted on 06/25/2006 12:34:24 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: freedom9
My, my, my.... you guys are still at it. Let me kindly ask you one question. What in the world did God use prior to 1611 to communicate with man??? King James hated the Geneva Bible (the translation of the Reformers) He hated the Reformation with a passion and wanted that Bible eradicated. God inspired the original Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic versions. Translations are not "verbally inspired." Take a simple hermeneutic class or something.
4 posted on 06/25/2006 2:04:18 PM PDT by sola gracia
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To: freedom9

James White - King James Only Controversy / tektonics
http://www.tektonics.org/books/whitekjvorvw.html

King James Only-ism

An aberrant teaching that considers the King James Version - specifically the '1611 Authorized Version' - to be the only legitimate English-language Bible version.

KJV-onlyists who go so far as to insist that people who do not use the King James Version are not saved, are heretics (in that they violate the Biblical doctrine of salvation by adding conditions not taught in Scripture).

Click link below and scroll down to King James Only-ism http://www.apologeticsindex.org/k00.html


5 posted on 06/25/2006 4:36:59 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: sola gracia

***God inspired the original Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic versions. Translations are not "verbally inspired." Take a simple hermeneutic class or something.***

Excerpt from THE TRANSLATORS TO THE READER. origional preface to the KJV.

Now to the latter we answer, That we do no deny, nay, we affirm and avow, that the very meanest translation of the Bible in English, set forth by men of our profession, (for we have seen none of their's of the whole Bible as yet) containeth the word of God, nay, is the word of God: As the King's speech which he uttered in Parliament, being translated into French, Dutch, Italian, and Latin, is still the King's speech, though it be not interpreted by every translator with the like grace, nor peradventure so fitly for phrase, nor so expressly for sense, every where.

...The like we are to think of translations. The translation of the Seventy dissenteth from the Original in many places, neither doth it come near it for perspicuity, gravity, majesty. Yet which of the Apostles did condemn it? Condemn it? Nay, they used it, ...


6 posted on 06/25/2006 4:39:23 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross in your yard, the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: freedom9
It was the NIV that convinced me that the Good News was the Good News. I won't take seriously anybody that disses the NIV.

And yes I've read the King James, a very beautiful, spirit-filled translation, extensively.

7 posted on 06/25/2006 4:42:07 PM PDT by Tribune7
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I like the New King James. The old King James is beautifully written, and that appeals to the flesh. The Greek doesn't have use highbrow language (all the thees, thous, etc.) The King James added that flavor, which appeals to the flesh, but isn't in the original.

Preachers who use the old King James end up wasting time translating archaic English to modern day language.

8 posted on 06/25/2006 5:01:44 PM PDT by aimhigh
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