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Those with a protestant mindset still use Honorius as a battering ram to try and destroy Christian unity and attack the Living Magisterium

Of course that's true, but it's also true that Honorius came the closest a Pope has ever come to teaching error, so it is an instructive historical case on how far the Pope can go in being, well, wrong.

11 posted on 05/16/2006 11:19:29 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Claud

Dear Claud,

"Of course that's true, but it's also true that Honorius came the closest a Pope has ever come to teaching error,..."

I disagree. Honorius merely refrained from teaching orthodoxy, while not actually ever enunciating anything that was at fault.

I think John XXII is the closest we had to a pope who actually taught error. Pope John actually held, as a private theologian, though while pope, that the blessed dead would not behold the Beatific Vision until the Last Judgment. He didn't teach this from the Chair of Peter, and attached no authority to his views. He eventually repudiated his own view, and taught authoritatively that the blessed dead do behold the Beatific Vision before final judgment.

I think that's as close as we've seen a pope to teaching error. Although, even here, he held a view as a private theologian that had not yet been definitively decided, and thus, did not hold what was yet formally heretical.


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13 posted on 05/16/2006 11:29:05 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Claud

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07452b.htm


15 posted on 05/16/2006 11:45:40 AM PDT by bornacatholic (Pope Paul VI. "Use of the old Ordo Missae is in no way left to the choice of priests or people.")
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