Teofilo:"But why? Why are you so obsessed with changing the metaphors? Why are these "cartoons" to you but your quaint attempt to restore an updated view of Ptolemy, "gospel truth" and all of the sudden, central to Catholic truth? "
I am not the one who changed metaphors, Teofilo. Keep that in mind. Corpenicus, Galileo, Kepler, etc., caught the popular imagination of man (under whose guidance, I wonder) using incorrect models of the universe and they changed the metaphor. They placed the sun at the center of the universe instead of the earth. This had as much to do with anti-Christian mysticism as it did with cosmology. Of course in todays view (acentrism), they too are considered wrong.
Still, the amazing thing is that no scientist has been able to demonstrate that the earth moves (in a manner distinguishable from counter movement of the universe).
Why accept the changed metaphor, Teofilo? It has been more than 2000 years since Christ came. What has Lucifer been doing all this time? Do you not think he was behind the Orthodox Schism, the Protestant Revolution, Galileo, the rise of masonry, communism, abortion as a civil right, etc.?
How sucessful has the deception become? Is it to the point that man willingly pulls the cosmological wool over his own eyes in some distorted notion of truth?
There does not have to be a naturalistic explanation for the universe being in the configuration it actually is in. If it is geocentric, there really is only one explanation- God willed it so. The acentric view is easily reduced to a cosmic accident.
Mark Wyatt
www.veritas-catholic.blogspot.com
Still, the amazing thing is that no scientist has been able to demonstrate that the earth moves (in a manner distinguishable from counter movement of the universe). Of course there is! Is called parallax. The stars "shift" position against the background as the Earth moves around the Sun. Of course, this only can be measured on the closest stars. The farther off a star is, the more difficult it gets to measure its parallax.
Also, orbital mechanics demand it. There are several probes in solar orbit, some of them in polar solar orbit. Their orbits are well known and would been quite impossible to figure out if the Solar System were geocentric.
It seems to me that your confusing a great deal of things regarding knowledge domains, and the interrelationship between natural philosophy ("science") and theology. This an old argument which I think was solved in one of the Lateran Councils of the Middle Ages. Back then, there were some that said that what is true in philosophy may not be true in theology and vice-versa, there was no Unity of Truth.
That's what you're doing, but you don't do it through dialectics, but by blurring the line, confusing categories, and special pleading.
I think that your protest against modernity has made you take an off-the-wall stance, a kind of sede vacantism of reason and faith, where both seem to be temporarily absent from your wits.
By adopting this stance, you undermine your own credibility, but thankfully, not that of the Church.
-Theo