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To: Markjwyatt
Still, the amazing thing is that no scientist has been able to demonstrate that the earth moves (in a manner distinguishable from counter movement of the universe).

Of course there is! Is called parallax. The stars "shift" position against the background as the Earth moves around the Sun. Of course, this only can be measured on the closest stars. The farther off a star is, the more difficult it gets to measure its parallax.

Also, orbital mechanics demand it. There are several probes in solar orbit, some of them in polar solar orbit. Their orbits are well known and would been quite impossible to figure out if the Solar System were geocentric.

It seems to me that your confusing a great deal of things regarding knowledge domains, and the interrelationship between natural philosophy ("science") and theology. This an old argument which I think was solved in one of the Lateran Councils of the Middle Ages. Back then, there were some that said that what is true in philosophy may not be true in theology and vice-versa, there was no Unity of Truth.

That's what you're doing, but you don't do it through dialectics, but by blurring the line, confusing categories, and special pleading.

I think that your protest against modernity has made you take an off-the-wall stance, a kind of sede vacantism of reason and faith, where both seem to be temporarily absent from your wits.

By adopting this stance, you undermine your own credibility, but thankfully, not that of the Church.

-Theo

20 posted on 12/28/2005 2:43:06 PM PST by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Teófilo

Theo:Of course there is! Is called parallax. The stars "shift" position against the background as the Earth moves around the Sun. Of course, this only can be measured on the closest stars. The farther off a star is, the more difficult it gets to measure its parallax."

Parallax can be explained in geocentric theory, also. Sorry.
See Part I of Geocentricity 101.

Mark Wyatt
www.veritas-catholic.blogspot.com


21 posted on 12/28/2005 7:49:08 PM PST by Markjwyatt (No, Teofilo, you should reconsider)
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To: Teófilo

In a way, geocentrism has a valid meaning. All of our observations are from this place in the universe, and so far as man is concerned he is the center of the universe. Likewise all knowledge is anthropocentric. Even Revelation must be expressed in human terms, so that God is described in Anthropeic terms. The culmination of this, of course, is the doctrine of the Incarnation. When the Vulcans land, of course, all this will change ;-)


38 posted on 01/18/2007 4:16:33 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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