Posted on 12/10/2005 5:48:34 AM PST by fruitarian
GREATER THINGS SHALL YOU DO THAN I HAVE DONE SAID JESUS CHRIST TO HIS FOLLOWERS: What you have done to these the least of My brethren you have done unto Me. CATHOLIC VEGETARIANS St Francis of Assisi, St Clare, stigmatist St Therese Neumann, St. Martin de Porres, St John Chrysostom, St Anthony of Padua who preached to fishes when humans would not listen.. St Nicholas of Tolentino* believed they were following the example of Jesus in not eating His animals. Trappists, Cistercians, Benedictines, Franciscans all have had a tradition of vegetarian diet, to which many still adhere. The pretzel was says George Cornell former AP religion writer a Lenten bread, symbolizing arms folded in prayer.. Lentils were named as such because they were a Lenten vegetarian alternative to animal flesh. Meatless Fridays were the last vestige of early Christian abstinence from meat in following Christ's example. A papal bull once excommunicated anyone who attended a bullfight because the barbaric cruelty in them. This was later amended to excommunicate only priests who blessed bullfighting. BIBLICAL ORIGINS Genesis 1: 29, Isaiah 65, Daniel 1 Exodus 26: 34 are some of the thousands of quotes in the Bible on vegetarian diet. The command to feed the hungry, given by Jesus in His Sermon on the Mount, implies vegetarianism since the flesh of animals yields 100 to 1000 lbs an acre, dairy products around 10,000 lbs. an acre, some vegetables, 81,000 lbs. an acre, and fruits from centenarian fruit trees 450,000 or more lbs. an acre. Therefore Genesis fruit trees yield 450 times what slaughterhouses yield. Daniel O'Steen, of National Right To Life, felt he must be consistent in his prolife stance and so many years ago became a vegetarian.
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With all the research on Omega-3 fatty acids coming from cold-water fish, this is in serious doubt. Not to mention the B vitamins in chicken and any number in beef.
One of the most beloved parables involves killing a fatted calf. Did Jesus really ask for vegetarianism? That's doubtful.
Whatever.
If you believe that vegetarianism is the best way to enjoy God's bounty, I see no problem with that. But if, as you may be implying, eating meat is sinful, then how do you reconcile this view with Luke 24: 41-43, in which Jesus Himself asks for, and receives, meat for food?
I don't think so.
AB, something is tickling my memory here, maybe some wacko vegan from the past has returned...
I had a great pot roast last night. I did say grace before eating though. Yummy!
I smell OZONE!
Hi fruitarian, why are you so concerned with nonviolence? I'm not trying to be funny, it's a serious question - I think there is a time for violence and a time for nonviolence. If you don't want to eat meat, that's fine for you, but me and my family plan to use the incisors and canines God gave us.
CW, Catholic nurse, was nursing her child one day when a mosquito landed on her arm. She decided to nurse him too.
One Catholic seminarian experimented with pot once.. and his perceptions slowed down. The chicken leg he was gnawing on became the leg of a chicken. That day he stopped eating meat and stopped smoking pot.
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believed they were following the example of Jesus in not eating His animals.
Do fish count or just mammals? There's at least Biblical account of Jesus eating fish, and others of Jesus providing fish to be eaten.
Being Orthodox we still fast throughout the year, but in every Church that I have been a member of the Priest will always say to us you have got fast. So one day I was at the health food store and I was a little curious about fasting and what exactly it does for you on a health level and what I found out was that whenever and whatever you eat you do not eliminate everything or 100%. What you do eliminate is more like 99.7% what remains behind that .03 or less simply clogs up stuff and causes disease. when you fast you remove everything that has stayed behind from God knows when and the same book that I bought that day provided an example of medication that was taken many years earlier came out. The other thing if you talk to Indian people about fasting what they will tell you is to get into a fast Day 1 go with fruits and juices in abundance then on Day 2 go with just the juices in abundance and then on Day 3 only water and you are in. Also Prayer and Holy Water everday will only help you.
Being Orthodox we still fast throughout the year, but in every Church that I have been a member of the Priest will always say to us you have got fast. So one day I was at the health food store and I was a little curious about fasting so I bought a book about what exactly fasting does for you on a health level and what I found out was that whenever and whatever you eat you do not eliminate everything or 100%. What you do eliminate is more like 99.7% what remains behind that .03 or less simply clogs up stuff and causes disease. when you fast you remove everything that has stayed behind from God knows when and the same book that I bought that day provided an example of medication that was taken many years earlier came out. The other thing if you talk to Indian people about fasting what they will tell you is to get into a fast Day 1 go with fruits and juices in abundance then on Day 2 go with just the juices in abundance and then on Day 3 only water and you are in. Also Prayer and Holy Water everday will only help you.
"Beef...............it's what's for dinner."
I have an older brother who has been a very strict vegetarian for close to 30 years now. He worked in a slaughterhouse back in the mid 60s. At that time they used to kill cattle by beating them over the head with sledgehammers. I mean, there really is something so grotesque about that. So inhumane! He said the cries that they uttered just chilled you to the bone, because it takes more than one blow to kill them. That's probably the biggest reason he was turned off of meat.
If I had to kill to acquire meat, the only thing I think I'd eat would be chicken, pheasant, that sort of thing. I think I could kill a chicken or shoot a pheasant. Chickens don't seem to have faces, so it wouldn't be that hard. At least I think it wouldn't be. But I could never look a cow in the eye and kill it. There so peaceful, and gentle. I couldn't do it.
Was Daniel a vegetarian? I seem to recall reading in the Book of Daniel that he was.
Finally, the non-violence thing is groovy and all that, but I don't think God commands us to avoid meat. We are to be good stewards, and loving masters of the beasts, but my canines are there for a reason.
Many times when I buy beef, I buy from a source that is reputed to use humane methods when killing their cattle. I don't eat veal, cause to take the life of a creature that young seems wrong to me. Same with lamb. Same with baby-back ribs. Little piglet is too small to slaughter. Pork: the other white meat!
I really like the old Jewish customs or kosher laws whatever their properly called. They recognize that the living creatures we eat, give their lives for our sustenance.
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