Official Feast of the Lady of LaSalette Sept. 19( along with St. Januarius)

Anyone wishing to purchase the little booklet of the Lady Of LaSalette apparation-send 1.00 to: MLOR 1186 Burlington Dr. Hickory Corners, Mich. 49060 U.S.A. Pray the rosary,teach it,preach it !

1 posted on 09/19/2005 7:31:23 AM PDT by Rosary

2 posted on 09/19/2005 7:34:14 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Behold thy mother." -Our Lord Jesus Christ, John 19: 27)

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The Apparition
by Marcel Schlewer and Maurice Sublet, MS

Near a little fountain the two children lay down on the grass and fell asleep. How long their slumber lasted is not certain - half an hour perhaps, or three quarters of an hour or possibly more. In any case Melanie suddenly awoke and called Maximin: "Memin, Memin, let us go and find our cows, I cannot see them anywhere."

Of course, being at the bottom of the little ravine, they could not see the meadow where they had left them. Quickly they climbed the slope opposite Mount Gargas (hence they were standing on what is now the esplanade in front of the basilica). Turning around they could view the entire alpine pasture land and were greatly relieved to see that their cows had remained where they had been left, peaceably chewing the cud. Reassured, Melanie began to redescend towards the dried-up fountain to recover her little sack of provisions before once again watering the cows. Half-way down the grassy slope she paused immobilized, frozen with fear. "Memin," she called out, "look at that great light over there." "Where is it?" the boy replied, as he ran and stood at her side. (At the place of the Apparition two statues represent the children on the slope of the ravine, in the first stage of the Event.)

At the very spot where they had slept was a globe of fire, as if, in the children's words, "the sun had fallen there." The light swirled, then grew in size and, opening, disclosed within it a woman, seated, her head in her hands, her elbows on her knees, in the attitude of one oppressed with grief.

Melanie, in her fright, raised her hands and dropped her shepherd's staff. Maximin thought only of defending himself. "Keep your stick," he said to her, "I will keep mine and will give it a good whack if it does anything to us..." Even after she conversed with them, the children could not identify their heavenly Visitor. They would simply call her " the Beautiful Lady."
The Beautiful Lady

The beautiful Lady now stood up while the children remained transfixed where they were. She said to them in French: " Come near, my children, be not afraid. I am here to tell you great news."

Fully reassured by these words the children hurried to meet her. Her voice, they said, was like music. They approached so near her that, as they later expressed it, another person could not have passed between them and her. The Lady also took a few steps towards them.

They looked at her and noticed that she did not cease weeping all the time she spoke to them. As Maximin put it, "She was like a mama whom her own children had beaten and who had escaped to the mountain to weep." The beautiful Lady was tall and seemed to be made of light. She was dressed like women of the region with a long dress, an apron nearly as long as the dress, a shawl that crossed over her breast and was knotted in the back, and a cap or bonnet similar to the ones worn by peasant women. Roses crowned her head while another wreath of roses adorned the edges of her white shawl and a third garland surrounded her shoes. Over her brow shone a light in the form of a diadem. On her shoulders shone a heavy chain and from a smaller golden chain hung a resplendent crucifix with a hammer and pincers placed on each side of the Cross, a little beyond the nailed hands.
The Message

The unknown Lady now spoke to the children. "We were drinking her words," they would say later, adding, "she wept all the time she spoke to us."

"Come near, my children, be not afraid; I am here to tell you great news.

If my people will not obey, I shall be compelled to loose my Son's arm. It is so heavy that I can no longer hold it.

How long have I suffered for you! If my Son is not to abandon you, I am obliged to entreat him without ceasing. But you take no heed of that. No matter how well you pray in the future, no matter how well you act, you will never be able to make up what I have endured on your behalf.

I have given you six days to work. The seventh I have reserved for myself yet no one will give it to me. This is what causes the weight of my Son's arm to be so heavy.

The cart drivers cannot swear without bringing in my Son's name. These are the two things that make my Son's arm so heavy.

If the harvest is spoiled, it is your own fault. I warned you last year by means of the potatoes. You paid no heed. Quite the contrary, when you discovered that the potatoes had rotted, you swore, you abused my Son's name. They will continue to be spoiled, and by Christmas time this year there will be none left."

The French word potatoes (pommes de terre) puzzled Melanie. In the local dialect the word is "la ruff." The word "pommes" reminded he only of apples. She turned to Maximin for help. But the Lady said "Ah! You do not understand French, my children? Well then, listen. I shall say it differently...Si la recolta la gasta..."

Changing into the local dialect, she repeated these last sentences and continued speaking to Maximin and Melanie: "If you have wheat, it will do no good to sow it, for what you sow the vermin will eat, and whatever part of it springs up will crumble into dust when you thresh it.

A great famine is coming. But before that happens, children under seven years of age will be seized with trembling and die in the arms of those holding them. The others will pay for their sins by hunger. The grapes will rot and the walnuts will become worm-eaten."

Suddenly Melanie no longer heard the Lady's voice although her lips were still moving. She noticed that Maximin was listening very attentively. Then she, in turn was able to hear words that Maximin could not hear. Maximin's native restlessness won out over his effort to behave. He toyed with his hat, taking it off, putting it on again, and with the tip of his walking stick he poked at pebbles. "Not a single stone touched the Beautiful Lady's feet," protested Maximin a few days later. She said something to me and told me, "You will not repeat this and this. After that I could not hear her, and I began diverting myself."

Finally they both heard the Lady's voice again: "If my people are converted, the very stones will become mounds of wheat and the potatoes will grow self-sown.

Do you say your prayers well, my children?"

The children answered with one voice: "Not too well, Madame, hardly at all!"

The Lady said: "Ah, my children, it is very important to do so, at night and in the morning. When you don't have time, at least say an Our Father and a Hail Mary, and whenever you can, say more.

Only a few rather elderly women go to Mass in the summer. Everyone else works every Sunday all summer long. And in winter, when they don't know what else to do, they go to Mass only to scoff at religion. During Lent, they go to the butcher shop like dogs.

Have you ever seen spoiled wheat, my children?"

"No, Madame," declared Maximin, quick to speak for Melanie as well as for himself. Turning toward Maximin, the Lady replied:

"But you, my child, must have seen some once near Coin with your papa. The owner of the field said to your papa, 'Come and see my spoiled wheat.' The two of you went. You took two or three ears of wheat in your hands. You rubbed them together and they crumbled into dust. Then you came back from Coin. When you were only a half-hour away from Corps, your papa gave you a bit of bread and said: 'Here, my son, eat some bread this year anyhow. I don't know who will be eating any next year if the wheat continues to spoil like this.'"

"Oh, yes, Madame, now I remember! Until now I didn't," admitted Maximin.

The Beautiful Lady concluded, no longer in dialect but in French:

"Well, my children, you will make this known to all my people."

These were her last words.

Meanwhile the two witnesses were still standing motionless at the spot where the conversation had taken place, when suddenly they realized that the heavenly Visitor was already some steps away from them. In their eagerness to join her again, they ran across the brook and were with her in a moment. Thus, in the company of Maximin and Melanie, the Lady moved along, gliding over the tips of the grass without touching it, until she reached the top of the hillock where the children, after their sleep, had gone to look after their cows. Melanie preceded her by a few steps, and Maximin was at her right.

On reaching the summit the Lady paused for a few seconds, then slowly rose up to a height of a meter and a half. She remained suspended in the air for a moment, raised her eyes to Heaven, then glanced in the direction of the southeast. At that moment, Melanie, who had been standing at the left of the Lady, came in front in order to see her better. Only then did she notice that the celestial Visitor had ceased weeping, although her features remained very sad.

The radiant vision now began to disappear. "We saw her head no more, then the rest of the body no more; she seemed to melt away. There remained a great light," related Maximin, "as well as the roses at her feet which I tried to catch with my hands; but there was nothing more." "We looked for a long time," added Melanie, "to see if we could not have another glimpse of her," but the Beautiful Lady had disappeared forever.

The little shepherdess then remarked to her companion: "Perhaps it was a great Saint." "If we had known it was a great Saint," said Maximin, "we would have asked her to take us with her."

3 posted on 09/19/2005 7:51:38 AM PDT by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)

Isn't it, like, pretty much Wrong to use Our Lady to advance some sketchy anti-Vatican II agenda?

4 posted on 09/19/2005 8:26:21 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (I'm marrying a woman before they make gay marriage mandatory!)

You're purveying a hoax. The secrets of LaSalette have NEVER been released. In 1916, the Holy See condemned anybody - clergy or laity - who disseminates the "secrets":

THE SUPREME SACRED CONGREGATION OF THE HOLY OFFICE GIVES A DECREE
CONCERNING THE COMMONLY CALLED "SECRET OF LA SALETTE."

It has come to the attention of this Supreme Congregation that certain ones are not lacking, even from among the ecclesiastic assemblage who, responses and decisions of this Holy Congregation itself having been disregarded, do proceed to discuss and examine through books, small works and articles edited in periodicals, whether signed or without a name, concerning the so-called Secret of La Salette, its diverse forms and its relevance to present and future times; and, this not only without permission of the Ordinaries, but, also against their ban.

So that these abuses which oppose true piety and greatly wound ecclesiastical authority might be curbed, the same Sacred Congregation orders all the faithful of any region not to discuss or investigate under any pretext, neither through books, or little works or articles, whether signed or unsigned, or in any other way of any kind, about the mentioned subject. Whoever, indeed, violates this precept of the Holy Office, if they are priests, are deprived of all dignity and suspended by the local ordinary from hearing sacramental confessions and from offering Mass: and, if they are lay people, they are not permitted to the sacraments until they repent.

Moreover, let people be subject to the sanctions given both by Pope Leo XIII through the Constitution of the offices and responsibilities against those who publish books dealing with religious things without legitimate permission of superiors and by Urban VIII through the decree "Sanctissimus Dominus Noster" given on 13th March 1625 against those who publish asserted revelations without the permission of ordinaries. However, this decree does not forbid devotion towards the Blessed Virgin under the title of Reconciliatrix commonly of La Salette.

Given at Rome on 21st December, 1915. - Aloisius Castellano, S. R. and U. I. Notary.

5 posted on 09/19/2005 8:36:31 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

THE LITTLE WORK IS CONDEMNED:
"THE APPARITION OF THE VERY HOLY VIRGIN OF LA SALETTE" DECREE
Wednesday, 9th May 1923

In a General Session of the Supreme Holy Congregation of the Holy Office, eminent and reverend Lord Cardinals appointed for protecting the faith and morals, proscribed and condemned the little work The Apparition of the Most Holy Virgin on the holy mountain of La Salette, Saturday 19 September 1845. - Simple Reprinting of the entire public text by Mélanie, etc. Society Saint-Augustine, Paris-Rome-Bruges, 1922; ordering those to whom it looks to take care to withdraw examples of the condemned book from the hands of the faithful.

And the same holiday and day of the Most Holy Lord. N. D. by the foresight of divine providence Pope Pius XI, in the customary audience of R. P. D. Assessor of the Holy Office has commissioned the report himself and approved the resolution.

Given at Rome from the Holy Office on 10th May, 1923. - Aloisius Castellanus, S. R. and U. Notary.

6 posted on 09/19/2005 8:38:28 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

To: Rutles4Ever; Rosary

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God our Father, enable us who honor the memory of St. Januarius to share with him the joy of eternal life. Grant this through our Lord Jesus Christ, your Son, who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit, one God, for ever and ever.

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September 19, 2005

Optional Memorial of St. Januarius, bishop & martyr

Old Calendar: St. Januarius and his Companions; Our Lady of La Salette

Little is known about St. Januarius. He was Bishop of Benevento in Campania. He died near Naples, about the year 305, martyred under the persecution of Emperor Diocletian. Around the year 400 the relics of St. Januarius were moved to Naples, which honors Januarius as a patron saint. He supposedly protected Naples from a threatened eruption of the volcano Mt. Vesuvius. The "miracle of Januarius" has world-wide fame. At least three times a year—on his feast day, December 16 and the first Sunday of May—the sealed vial with congealed blood of the saint liquifies, froths and bubbles up. This miraculous event has occurred every year, with rare exceptions. Popular tradition holds that the liquefaction is a sign that the year will be preserved from disasters. (In 1939, the beginning of World War II, the blood did not bubble up.)

St. Januarius
Together with his deacons Socius and Festus, and his lector Desiderius, Januarius, bishop of Beneventum, was subjected to most atrocious torturing during the Diocletian persecution (about 304). Nevertheless, with God's aid they were preserved unmaimed. The wild animals let loose upon them would not attack. Beheaded at Puteoli, their bodies were reverently interred in the neighboring cities. Eventually the remains of St. Januarius became the prized possession of the city of Naples.

"Even to the present time the blood of the saint that is preserved in a glass vial will become fluid shortly after it is brought close to the head of the saint; then it bubbles up in a remarkable manner, as if it had just been shed" (Breviary). Cardinal Schuster makes this statement in his Liber Sacramentorum (vol. 8, p. 233): "The author has seen the marvel of the blood liquefaction at closest range and can give witness to the fact. Taking into consideration all the scientific investigations that have been made, he would say that a natural explanation of the phenomena does not seem possible."

Excerpted from The Church's Year of Grace, Pius Parsch.

Patron: patron of Naples, Italy; blood banks; volcanic eruptions.

Symbols: heated oven; two red vials on Bible; bishop's mitre (headdress); palm frond (symbol of martrydom); crown (of martyrdom).

Things to Do:

Find out more about this "miracle of Januarius", including pictures.
Have an Italian dinner.
If you live close to New York city you can participate in The Feast of San Gennaro celebrated in lower Manhattan.

Our Lady of La Salette

On September 19, 1846, the Blessed Virgin Mary appeared to Maximin Giraud and Melanie Calvat on the mountain of La Salette, France. After thorough investigation the Catholic Church gave approval to the message and secret of La Salette as written by Melanie. The account was published in Lecce on November 15, 1879 with the imprimatur of Bishop Zola of Lecce. Mary's message was much the same as at Fatima, "If my people do not wish to submit themselves, I am forced to let go of the hand of my Son. It is so heavy and weighs me down so much I can no longer keep hold of it." She lamented with tears those who do not keep Sunday holy and who take the name of the Lord in vain. She indicated that if men did not stop offending Our Lord the potato crop would fail. She gave Maximin his secret which he never revealed. She then turned to Melanie and gave her a secret which she revealed 30 years later. This secret was given to the Holy Father, who gave orders that it was never to be revealed.

7 posted on 09/19/2005 8:49:07 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)

To: Rutles4Ever; Rosary

**She then turned to Melanie and gave her a secret which she revealed 30 years later. This secret was given to the Holy Father, who gave orders that it was never to be revealed.**

8 posted on 09/19/2005 8:49:52 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)

9 posted on 09/19/2005 9:21:49 AM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)

My my...then why in Heavens name is it an OFFICIAL DATE and FEAST on the Roman Catholic Calendar???? because as you think-
the Holy See condemned it.....I think NOT.

10 posted on 09/19/2005 1:28:43 PM PDT by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)

To: Salvation; Rutles4Ever

Then also say...that there are countless Roman Catholic Religious Orders dedicated to the Mother of God under the official title of Our Lady of La Salette...countless religious medals of her,and statues...to honor the Mother of God not to pretent she never came and said what she did...get the booklet...she came,she said what she said and the booklet will NOT hinder one person from loving God ...BUt lead them Closer to HIM..AMEn...of course the whole secret is only held by the Pope or perhaps recent Pope...like Fatima you only gets parts and pieces...BUT IT HAPPENED IT WAS TRUE AND IS COMING TRUE WHAT SHE SAID...(I capitalize..only to reinforce..not to be harsh)the only hoax is that you do not believe...perhaps you should travel to the OFFICIAL SHRINE IN France and say that does not exist either..??????

11 posted on 09/19/2005 1:37:23 PM PDT by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)

To: Rosary; Salvation; Rutles4Ever

La Salette

Located in the commune and parish of La Salette-Fallavaux, Canton of Corps, Department of Isere, and Diocese of Grenoble. It is celebrated as the place where, it is said, the Blessed Virgin appeared to two little shepherds; and each year is visited by a large number of pilgrims.

On 19 September, 1846, about three o'clock in the afternoon in full sunlight, on a mountain about 5918 feet high and about three miles distant from the village of La Salette-Fallavaux, it is related that two children, a shepherdess of fifteen named Mélanie Calvat, called Mathieu, and a shepherd-boy of eleven named Maximin Giraud, both of them very ignorant, beheld in a resplendent light a "beautiful lady" clad in a strange costume. Speaking alternately in French and in patois, she charged them with a message which they were "to deliver to all her people". After complaining of the impiety of Christians, and threatening them with dreadful chastisements in case they should persevere in evil, she promised them the Divine mercy if they would amend.

Finally, it is alleged, before disappearing she communicated to each of the children a special secret. The sensation caused by the recital of Mélanie and Maximin was profound, and gave rise to several investigations and reports. Mgr. Philibert de Bruillard, Bishop of Grenoble, appointed a commission to examine judicially this marvellous event; the commission concluded that the reality of the apparition should be admitted. Soon several miraculous cures took place on the mountain of La Salette, and pilgrimages to the place were begun. The miracle, needless to say, was ridiculed by free-thinkers, but it was also questioned among the faithful, and especially by ecclesiastics. There arose against it in the Dioceses of Grenoble and Lyons a violent oppposition, aggravated by what is known as the incident of Ars. As a result of this hostility and the consequent agitation, Mgr. de Bruillard (16 November 1851) declared the apparition of the Blessed Virgin as certain, and authorized the cult of Our Lady of La Salette. This act subdued, but did not suppress, the opposition, whose leaders, profiting by the succession in 1852 of a new bishop, Mgr. Ginoulhiac, to Mgr. Bruillard, who had resigned, retaliated with violent attacks on the reality of the miracle of La Salette. They even asserted that the "beautiful lady" was a young woman named Lamerliere, which story gave rise to a widely advertised suit for slander. Despite these hostile acts, the first stone of a great church was solemnly laid on the mount of La Salette, 25 May, 1852, amid a large assembly of the faithful. This Church, later elevated to the rank of a basilica, was served by a body of a religious called Missionaries of La Salette. In 1891 diocesan priests replaced these missionaries, driven into exile by persecuting laws.

As said above, the Blessed Virgin confided to each of the two children a special secret. These two secrets, which neither Mélanie or Maximin ever made known to each other, were sent by them in 1851 to Pius IX on the advice of Mgr. de Bruillard. It is unknown what impressions these mysterious revelations made on the pope, for on this point there were two versions diametrically opposed to each other. Maximin's secret is not known, for it was never published. Mélanie's was inserted in its entirety in brochure which she herself had printed in 1879 at Lecce, Italy, with the approval of the bishop of that town. A lively controversy followed as to whether the secret published in 1879 was identical with that communicated to Pius IX in 1851, or in its second form it was not merely a work of the imagination. The latter was the opinion of wise and prudent persons, who were persuaded that a distinction must be made between the two Mélanies, between the innocent and simple voyante of 1846 and the visionary of 1879, whose mind had been disturbed by reading apocalyptic books and the lives of illuminati. As Rome uttered no decision the strife was prolonged between the disputants. Most of the defenders of the text of 1879 suffered censure from their bishops. Maximin Giraud, after an unhappy and wandering life, returned to Corps, his native village, and died there a holy death (1 March, 1875). Mélanie Calvat ended a no less wandering life at Altamura, Italy (15 December, 1904).

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My comment: It would appear that Melanie went off the reservation, and that anything to do with her supposed 'secret' is suspect at best, but otherwise this would appear to be a legitimate apparition.

12 posted on 09/19/2005 1:52:38 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)

To: ArrogantBustard

Thank You - I hope your good effort will be rewared by Mary.

13 posted on 09/19/2005 3:09:34 PM PDT by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)

I dont hink so as Our Lady well knows ,or rather knew the future...Once the Mass was the same no matter what part of the world you were in,in the past 40 yrs. the Catholism has been tested and changed and modernized...the altars alone cast from parishes,ect.ect.ect.....Vatican ll, very well was what Mary was referring to...in the booklet,these days are described..in the way the priests have changed(many not all YET) the nuns as well,as well as all the weather erruptions of huricanes,drought,floods ect....and the lives of people in general...good from bad>< worse to worst. God forgotten. No, the story explains and Mary ,herself WEPT.

14 posted on 09/19/2005 3:15:22 PM PDT by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)

No one is saying the vision did not occur. No one is saying that she did not receive a secret from the Virgin. What we are saying is the that the popularly published secret is a fraud and not what was approved by the Church.

Perhaps there are elements of truth to the ammended message, however, it's been roundly condemned. Satan is devious. Melanie was not under some divine shield. He can manipulate the weak, and the weak are typically disobedient. So, it's a two-parter. Part One - good, accepted by the Church as authentic. Part Two - not good, condemned multiple times.

LaSalette is an extremely holy shrine. No doubt. This second, inflammatory message of the "violent" Virgin is not authentic and should not be disseminated as such.

15 posted on 09/20/2005 5:06:02 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

My my...then why in Heavens name is it an OFFICIAL DATE and FEAST on the Roman Catholic Calendar???? because as you think- the Holy See condemned it.....I think NOT.

Again, the Holy See did not condemn the apparition. They're condeming this ammended "secret". It's not from God. The original disclosure was accepted and is still accepted.

16 posted on 09/20/2005 5:08:26 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

I was not peaking of the SECRET- that so many people like yourself,and those at Fatima harp on-BUT the fact that Our Lady came and foretold many things and wht is in the little booklet is only a Frightening part..if the whole secret like this story would b understood for wht it is instead of being pulled apart and spoken of with the gossiping ways of people to be twisted and turned....there would be not nee to go further.
Some FACTS are in the smalll booklet,some in the other books written,only Mary knows ALL of it and those who see the book will know it relaes very much to these days.So whynot spend a buck?

17 posted on 09/20/2005 5:21:24 AM PDT by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)

18 posted on 09/20/2005 5:21:26 AM PDT by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)

I was not speaking of the SECRET- that so many people like yourself,and those at Fatima harp on-BUT the fact that Our Lady came and foretold many things and what is in the little booklet is only a Frightening part..if the whole secret like this story would be understood for what it is instead of being pulled apart and spoken of with the gossiping ways of people to be twisted and turned....there would be not need to go further.
Some FACTS are in the smalll booklet,some in the other books written,only Mary knows ALL of it and those who see the book will know it reveals very much to these days.So whynot spend a buck? Or are you not wanting to see the Truth

19 posted on 09/20/2005 5:23:26 AM PDT by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)

sorry hit the wrong button for post 3 times oops...who the heck knows what the SECRET is???? NOT I< but the BOOKLET is eyeopening,with the Imprimature of the Bishop of Lecce- tells me something

20 posted on 09/20/2005 5:25:52 AM PDT by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)

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