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"Anti-Zionists. But We Have Nothing Against the Jews as Such"
ChronWatch ^ | 9/12/2003 | Dr. Steven Plaut

Posted on 12/26/2003 4:23:08 PM PST by abu afak

"Anti-Zionists. But We Have Nothing Against the Jews as Such"

Posted by Dr. Steven Plaut Friday, September 12, 2003

Say What? Anti-Semites? Who, us anti-Zionists? Us? We have nothing against Jews as such. We just hate Zionism and Zionists. We think Israel does not have a right to exist. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such. Heavens to Mergatroyd. Marx Forbid. We are humanists. Progressives. Peace lovers.

Anti-Semitism is the hatred of Jews. Anti-Zionism is opposition to Zionism and Israeli policies. The two have nothing to do with one another. Venus and Mars. Night and Day. Trust us.

Sure, we think the only country on the earth that must be annihilated is Israel. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

Sure, we think that the only children on earth whose being blown up is OK if it serves a good cause are Jewish children. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

Sure we think that if Palestinians have legitimate grievances this entitles them to mass murder Jews. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

Naturally, we think that the only people on earth who should never be allowed to exercise the right of self-defense are the Jews. Jews should only resolve the aggression against them through capitulation, never through self-defense. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We only denounce racist apartheid in the one country in the Middle East that is NOT a racist apartheid country. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We refuse to acknowledge the Jews as a people, and think they are only a religion. We do not have an answer to how people who do NOT practice the Jewish religion can still be regarded as Jews. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We think that all peoples have the right to self-determination, except Jews, and including even the make-pretend Palestinian ''people.'' But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We hate it when people blame the victims, except of course when people blame the Jews for the jihads and terrorist campaigns against them. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We think the only country in the Middle East that is a fascist anti-democratic one is the one that has free elections. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We demand that the only country in the Middle East with free speech, free press, or free courts be destroyed. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We oppose military aggression, except when it is directed at Israel. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We really understand suicide bombers who murder bus loads of Jewish children and we insist that their demands be met in full. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We think the only conflict on earth that must be solved through dismembering one of the parties to that conflict is the one involving Israel. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We do not think that Jews have any human rights that need to be respected and especially not the right to ride a bus without being murdered. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

There are Jewish leftist anti-Zionists and we consider this proof that anti-Zionists could not possibly be anti-Semitic. Not even the ones who cheer when Jews are mass murdered. These are the only Jews we think need be acknowledged or respected. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We do not think murder proves how righteous and just the cause of the murderer is, except when it comes to murderers of Jews. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We do not think the Jews are entitled to their own state and must submit to being a minority in a Rwanda-style ''bi-national state,'' although no other state on earth, including the 22 Arab countries, should be similarly expected to be deprived of its sovereignty. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We think that Israel's having a Jewish majority and a star on its flag makes it a racist apartheid state. We do not think any other country having an ethnic-religious majority or having crosses or crescents or ''Allah Akbar'' on its flag is racist or needs dismemberment. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We condemn the ''mistreatment'' of women in the only country of the Middle East in which they are not mistreated. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We condemn the ''mistreatment'' of minorities in the only country in the Middle East in which minorities are NOT brutally suppressed and mass murdered. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We demand equal citizen rights, which is why the only country in the Middle East in need of extermination is the only one in which they exist. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We have no trouble with the fact that there is no freedom of religion in any Arab countries. But we are mad at hell at Israel for violating religious freedom, and never mind that we are never quite sure where or when it does so. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

So how can you possibly say we are anti-Semites? We are simply anti-Zionists. We seek peace and justice, that's all. And surely that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

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1 posted on 12/26/2003 4:23:09 PM PST by abu afak
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To: abu afak
it seems the author has set himself not only against Israel, but also against all conservative Christians who support Israel, and in fact against God himself as well.

Deuteronomy 11:22-25
22“For if you carefully keep all these commandments which I command you to do—to love the Lord your God, to walk in all His ways, and to hold fast to Him— 23“then the Lord will drive out all these nations from before you, and you will dispossess greater and mightier nations than yourselves. 24“Every place on which the sole of your foot treads shall be yours: from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the River Euphrates, even to the Western Sea, shall be your territory. 25“No man shall be able to stand against you; the Lord your God will put the dread of you and the fear of you upon all the land where you tread, just as He has said to you.
2 posted on 12/26/2003 5:46:44 PM PST by ahadams2 (Anglican Freeper Resource Page: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican/)
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To: ahadams2
No No ahadams.

You completely Misunderstood the article.

The author is MAKING FUN OF those people who say they are "Anti-Zionists", but in fact are Anti-Semites.

Geeesh
3 posted on 12/26/2003 6:31:00 PM PST by abu afak
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To: ahadams2
This is satire at its most drippingness.

He clearly makes the case on just how specious are the claims of non anti-semitism the Liberal Left and their associates and accessories Muslims and Old Europe.
4 posted on 12/26/2003 6:36:28 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: abu afak
sooryy! long week, must be experiencing cranial vaporlock...
5 posted on 12/26/2003 6:40:34 PM PST by ahadams2 (Anglican Freeper Resource Page: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican/)
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To: ahadams2
It's OK...

I already had to have anap from my week.

BTW.. for Biblical Support of Israel it's better to use Genesis:

"'''#7: Biblical Support**(See Editor's Note)
I believe very strongly that we ought to support Israel; that it has a right to the land. This is the most important reason:
Because God said so.
As I said a minute ago, look it up in the book of Genesis. It is right up there on the desk. In Genesis 13:14-17, the Bible says:
"The Lord said to Abram,

``Lift up now your eyes, and look from the place where you are northward, and southward, and eastward and westward: for all the land which you see, to you will I give it, and to your seed forever. .....
Arise, walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it; for I will give it to thee.''

That is God talking. The Bible says that Abram removed his tent and came and dwelt in the plain of Mamre, which is in Hebron, and built there an altar before the Lord. Hebron is in the West Bank. It is at this place where God appeared to Abram and said,
``I am giving you this land,''--the West Bank.
This is not a political battle at all. It is a contest over whether or not the word of God is true.

From: Seven Reasons the Land belongs to Israel
(The other 6 are very good too)

http://wordofmessiah.org/seven_reasons.htm

6 posted on 12/26/2003 6:46:06 PM PST by abu afak
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To: abu afak
I think Dr. Plaut's article is ridiculous and dangerous. He condemns, out of hand, anyone who objects to a government's policies or historical missteps as being inherently racist, and implies that they are consequently genocidal. This is simplicity at it's most simplistic. His line of thought would make anyone objecting to the apartheid system in South Africa a racist. It's illogical.
7 posted on 12/26/2003 7:46:49 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: St.Chuck
That'[s FRalse..

He does not even address someone Criticizing "a government's policies".

Zionism is NOT a Government Policy.

Zionism is just the Idea of a State of Israel, NOT whether you agree with the policies of any of it's governments.

You are comparing (unwittingly) Apartheid with Zionism.
Perhaps you are who the author is addressing and perhaps you just have a misimpression of the word 'Zionism'.

I prefer to think the latter.

Try again.
8 posted on 12/26/2003 7:55:23 PM PST by abu afak
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To: abu afak
It is a contest over whether or not the word of God is true.

I'm not clear on this point. In order for God's word to be true, Israel must exist? Does this mean that if Israel (the territory called Israel) did not exist, as it didn't for the past 2000 years, God's word would not be true?

9 posted on 12/26/2003 8:00:08 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: St.Chuck
I was merely giving Biblical support to ahadam who had quoted Deuteronomy.

I do not use the Bibgle when making a case for Israel myself.

You haven't addressed my last point.
10 posted on 12/26/2003 8:02:03 PM PST by abu afak
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To: abu afak
Anti-Zionism is opposition to Zionism and Israeli policies.

I'm just using Dr. Plaut's definition.

11 posted on 12/26/2003 8:03:13 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: St.Chuck
Anti-Zionism is just Anti-Zionism.

Some people also use criticism of the Jewish state as substitute anti-semitism in a PC form; Singling out Israel, a Democracy in the middle of Hellish Regimes.

This is the Gist of the article.

I hope you can appreciate that without comparing Zionism to Apartheid.
12 posted on 12/26/2003 8:12:15 PM PST by abu afak
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To: abu afak
Some people also use criticism of the Jewish state as substitute anti-semitism in a PC form;

A lot of people cry "Anti-semite" at anyone expressing any criticism of Israel.

13 posted on 12/26/2003 8:23:54 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: St.Chuck
Some do.

But I find it's even more common for the Classic Anti-Semite to just use/plug in 'Zionist' instead of 'Jew'...
as in "Zionist Bankers' etc.

Former Canadian PM Brian Mulroney wrote an article entitled "Israel is the New Jew", referring to this particular and now common Phenomenon.

Dershowitz.. who I don't particularly admire, has a good yardstick I think, derived as he fought the Israel Divestiture petition.
To Paraphrase...
Criticizing Isreal isn't anti-semitic, singling it out, IS.



14 posted on 12/26/2003 8:33:51 PM PST by abu afak
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