[freedomcrusader]

And given the clout and numbers of those groups who disagree with them, it's definitely one they can lose, although I can't put odds on it right now.

[ahadams2]

You wrote "And given the clout and numbers of those groups who disagree with them, it's definitely one they can lose, although I can't put odds on it right now."

From everything I've seen the odds are strongly in favor of ecusa at least being sidelined (moved to observer only status) and possibly even being completely excommunicated. However, as recently as today (5 Dec 03) frank the heretic has released a letter to the house of bishops claiming everything is just fine and no one outside of ecusa will be doing anything Anglican in the United States. I've got to wonder who is buying this line of garbage at this point in time - even the most heretical elements in ecusa know that things are NOT going their way either nationally or internationally. So I'm left wondering if frank the heretic is really that delusional, or is this simply a little game to try to negotiate a better outcome by pretending to be blindsided when everything else falls down?