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"Groping" tales won't stop Arnie
Reuters | 10/03/03 | Dan Whitcomb

Posted on 10/03/2003 3:01:41 AM PDT by kattracks

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Newly published allegations that Arnold Schwarzenegger groped six women are probably too little, too late to derail his surging campaign for California governor in the state's recall election, analysts from both sides of the political spectrum say.

The experts predicted on Thursday that tales of boorish behaviour by Schwarzenegger -- printed prominently on page one of the Los Angeles Times -- would likely be shrugged off by voters tired of the issue and suspicious of its timing just four days before the 0ct. 7 election.

Most also gave the actor-turned-politician credit for handling it well with a quick apology and acknowledgement that he had sometimes "behaved badly" in the past.

"My impression is that it's going to be too little, too late," Democratic political consultant Rich Lichtenstein said. "Whoever made the strategic decision to round up these ladies needed to consider doing that sooner. It's too late to try to smear Arnold at this point. By now the voters are saying, 'Hey, we've heard this before.'"

Lichtenstein said the allegations would also be suspect to voters because the Times story, which the paper said was investigated by three reporters over seven weeks, was reported largely with unnamed sources. Four of the six women interviewed by the paper would not allow it to use their names.

"If these ladies were to come forward and if others come forward in the next few days and established a pattern it could have a dramatic impact on the election," he said. "But the story won't have legs unless there is further embellishment."

He added: "What seems so odd is that the Times would put something with this dramatic impact on the front page without individual names. If you're not prepared to come forward it doesn't resonate with people. He has a right to face his accusers. That's what makes it thin."

LAST-MINUTE SMEAR?

Republican political consultant Allen Hoffenblum agreed that the allegations were probably not enough to cripple Schwarzenegger, who has a solid lead in the polls over his fading rivals.

"For the issue to derail the Schwarzenegger campaign they had to come up with something completely new and this is not a new issue, almost everybody knows about it," Hoffenblum said, referring to charges throughout the campaign that Schwarzenegger was insensitive to women.

"The timing also helps Schwarzenegger because it looks like a last-minute smear. If this was so important the Times should have run it 10 days ago, before the debate," Hoffenblum said.

Hoffenblum said that if the Times story dominates campaign news Schwarzenegger could lose votes, but probably not enough to change the outcome of an election where the "Terminator" star was ahead in the polls and his rivals sinking fast.

Democratic political consultant Joe Cerrell said that the impact of the allegations was blunted in the post-Clinton era, referring the former president who was engulfed in scandal over his dalliance with a young intern.

"It's not the shock it once was," Cerrell said. "If this was 20 years ago they'd be saying he should pull out (of the race). I think it will impact some people, especially the undecideds and the hard-line Republicans who are already living with the fact that he is pro-gay and pro-abortion. It's an embarrassment to the Republican party."

Cerrell said Democrats could capitalise on the issue, but would have to tread carefully to avoid looking like they were behind the story or were slinging mud.

"We don't need to comment on it, the Los Angeles Times did it for us," Cerrell said. "If I were Davis I'd say, 'Hey, that's Mr. Schwarzenegger's problem.' I'd be so pontifical I'd be like a cardinal, above the fray. I'd turn to my wife, Sharon, and say: 'We don't know about this sort of stuff.'"



TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: groper; recall; schwarzenegger
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1 posted on 10/03/2003 3:01:41 AM PDT by kattracks
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2 posted on 10/03/2003 3:03:03 AM PDT by kattracks
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3 posted on 10/03/2003 3:04:24 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: kattracks
Since Bill Clinton, revelations of a long list of groped women seems to INCREASE the popularity of a politician.
4 posted on 10/03/2003 3:13:15 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Stupid Democrats. They just bumped Arnold up another 10 pts in the polls.
5 posted on 10/03/2003 3:17:49 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kattracks
"We don't need to comment on it, the Los Angeles Times did it for us," Cerrell said. "If I were Davis I'd say, 'Hey, that's Mr. Schwarzenegger's problem.' I'd be so pontifical I'd be like a cardinal, above the fray. I'd turn to my wife, Sharon, and say: 'We don't know about this sort of stuff.'"

Yeah, bribery and political payoffs with taxpayer's money is more Davis' expertise.

6 posted on 10/03/2003 3:19:47 AM PDT by #3Fan
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To: kattracks
Four of the six women in the tabloid Los Angeles Times story were unnamed and hence unverifiable by anybody else. The first of the only two testable cases happened in 1975, 28 years ago, and involved a fellow body-builder’s wife who says Arnold touched her breast. The Times could find no witness who saw this happen, although she says it happened in crowded Gold’s Gym near Venice Beach, California. Her husband has sustained a longtime envy-filled personal feud against the vastly more successful Schwarzenegger, gaining publicity for himself weeks ago by making accusations that the actor said things that could be interpreted as racist….a fact not mentioned in Thursday’s Times story.

The only other case in which the Times named a purported victim allegedly happened in December 2000 and involved British television host and interviewer Anna Richardson, who says Schwarzenegger touched her left nipple after sitting her on his knee.

In this case there is one eyewitness to the incident, Hollywood publicist Sheryl Main, who the Times acknowledges says “it was Richardson who provocatively approached Schwarzenegger…. After finishing the brief interview, Richardson rose, cupped her right breast in her right hand and said ‘What do you think of these?’ She then sat on his lap and was immediately escorted from the room.” According to Main, “Richardson later concocted her story.” The Times could find no witness who corroborated Richardson’s story. Richardson on her British TV show frequently makes flamboyant sexual displays and statements, another fact not mentioned by the Times reporters.

7 posted on 10/03/2003 3:46:54 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: kattracks
This can be seen as an assault on the intelligence of the California voters. What this last minute "release" says to the voters is: you're too stupid to choose your own candidate. Let we-the-DNC-LA-Times do it for you.
8 posted on 10/03/2003 3:58:05 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman
Why do I get the feeling none of these women would be in the press if the candidate doing the groping and humiliating had been Bubba?
9 posted on 10/03/2003 4:00:16 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
You're right. And the difference is Bubba did his groping (and worse) IN THE WHITEHOUSE, and then he denied it all.

Arnold admits to some bad behavior, NONE AS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL.

Big difference.
10 posted on 10/03/2003 4:01:44 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: #3Fan
Davis has been groping the whole state.
11 posted on 10/03/2003 4:04:50 AM PDT by novacation
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To: kattracks
Any politician running against a dem must plan on two things:

Last minute slime tactics

Winning by at least 5% to overcome voter fraud
12 posted on 10/03/2003 4:20:26 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: kattracks
I california, things like this are a positive, not a negative. Kind of like here in the NorthEast, other than New Hampshire, being a homosexual or lesbain is a political positive, not a negative.

Look at olympia snowe and susie collins, the rumors about them being lesbians has not only not hurt either politically, it has helped them immensley.

13 posted on 10/03/2003 4:47:51 AM PDT by 2timothy3.16
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To: kattracks
Arnnie handled them it well :)
14 posted on 10/03/2003 5:00:55 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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15 posted on 10/03/2003 5:24:37 AM PDT by autoresponder (go ahead libs - Let's see your worst shots!)
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To: AmericaUnited
In this case there is one eyewitness to the incident, Hollywood publicist Sheryl Main, who the Times acknowledges says “it was Richardson who provocatively approached Schwarzenegger…. After finishing the brief interview, Richardson rose, cupped her right breast in her right hand and said ‘What do you think of these?’ She then sat on his lap and was immediately escorted from the room.” According to Main, “Richardson later concocted her story.” The Times could find no witness who corroborated Richardson’s story. Richardson on her British TV show frequently makes flamboyant sexual displays and statements, another fact not mentioned by the Times reporters.

Figures, grrrr... do you have a link for this? :-)

16 posted on 10/03/2003 7:04:02 AM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: kattracks
Thanks!


17 posted on 10/03/2003 7:09:27 AM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: samtheman
Read what Susan Estridge wrote IN the LATimes ABOUT the LATimes!

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-estrich3oct03,1,1427245.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions
18 posted on 10/03/2003 7:20:07 AM PDT by onyx (Ask the Indian$)
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To: kattracks
...and lack of character won't stop him from groping again and breaking promises to those that voted for him. He's the Bill Clinton of the Republican party.
19 posted on 10/03/2003 8:06:34 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: kattracks
If I were Davis I'd say, 'Hey, that's Mr. Schwarzenegger's problem.' I'd be so pontifical I'd be like a cardinal, above the fray. I'd turn to my wife, Sharon, and say: 'We don't know about this sort of stuff.'"

The truth is, Davis doesn't know about this sort of stuff. When Davis puts his hands on a woman it is never with sexual intentions. It is to shake some sense into them.

20 posted on 10/03/2003 8:11:37 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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