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These men murdered or helped plan the murder of 58 tourists in 1997. I recall reading that some were shot, while others were hauled from their bus and hacked to death with swords while their friends and family watched and waited for their turns to die.

Now, the Egyptians are freeing the mastermind of this grisly act (and many other attacks), along with his minions. Note that the only support for this action cited to by the staff author is the Egyptian government-owned al-Ahram.

Tasty Manatees
1 posted on 09/30/2003 11:27:35 AM PDT by TastyManatees
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Is it any wonder the Middle East must be reshaped and the islamic jihad waged against non-islamotrash must be snuffed out to the last drop of blood?
2 posted on 09/30/2003 11:29:45 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: TastyManatees
Hmmmmm. And the Gitmo translator who was arrested at Logan just returned from Egypt.
3 posted on 09/30/2003 11:31:51 AM PDT by Quilla
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What on earth is going on in Egypt? Is Mubarak being blackmailed by the Gama'a?
4 posted on 09/30/2003 11:35:19 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: SJackson; Yehuda; Nachum; Paved Paradise; Mr. Mojo; Thinkin' Gal; Bobby777; adam_az; Alouette; ...
Reinforcements....
6 posted on 09/30/2003 11:37:25 AM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/343207.stm

World: Middle East

Bin Laden 'behind Luxor massacre'

Four Egyptians and 58 tourists died in the attack

May 13, 1999

By Barbara Plett in Cairo

Egypt has told a Swiss delegation it believes the Saudi dissident, Osama bin Laden, financed the 1997 massacre of tourists in Luxor.

Four Egyptians and 58 tourists - 35 of them Swiss nationals - were killed in the attack by Muslim militants.

Switzerland's federal police chief, Urs Von Daeniken, told journalists that Egypt suspects the Luxor massacre was ordered by an Egyptian named Mustafa Hamza and carried out with funding from Osama bin Laden.

Mr Hamza is said to be a military leader of Egypt's largest Muslim militant group, the Gamaa al-Islamiyya, and appeared to have given either direct or indirect instructions for the attack from Sudan.

He is now believed to be living in Afghanistan, where Mr bin Laden has his headquarters.

The United States has accused Osama bin Laden of masterminding a terrorist network suspected of bombing two American embassies in Africa last year.

Washington responded with missile attacks on sites in Afghanistan and Sudan said to be linked to Mr bin Laden, but has failed to produce strong evidence to support the Sudanese connection.

Mr Von Daeniken said Switzerland was satisfied with Egypt's conclusion in light of the available evidence.

He was in Cairo with Switzerland's Attorney General to follow up the Egyptian investigation.

Eighteen months after the massacre, Egypt still has not given Switzerland a final report.

Officials here say the inquiry is still open, but have promised to provide written answers to a list of Swiss questions within 15 days.

Mr Von Daeniken confirmed that Egypt has not yet been able to identify the sixth terrorist - the other five were young men from southern Egypt, most of them students.

All were killed in unclear circumstances after the att

Methinks we need to issue a worldwide alert against traveling to Egypt. Thanks, Mubarak. Poseur.

7 posted on 09/30/2003 11:40:59 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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It's OK with me as long as they stay in Egypt. The surest sign that the War on Terror is working, is that the terrorism is occurring closer and closer to the terrorists homes. When their bombs start going off in Mecca we can all breath easier.
8 posted on 09/30/2003 11:41:54 AM PDT by The_Victor
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We don't see this nearly enough...

Massacre In Luxor: Islamic Schools to Blame, Says Egyptian Editor

Normally the Western press, after such massacres as that of Luxor on November 17, 1997 explicitly try to exonerate Islam itself from responsibility for the murders. The argument usually goes something like this: "These barbarians are dishonoring a great religion, they are simply manipulating Islam for their political purposes. The real Islam advocates peace, and has nothing in common with its fundamentalist interpretation. These fanatics have arisen because the corrupt regimes supported by Western powers have forced Western secularization down their throats. Indeed, it is this more subtle, insidious, Western neo-colonialism that is responsible for the barbarous slaughter of 100,000 people in Algeria, Egypt, Afghanistan...."

How refreshing then -- nay, even revolutionary -- to read in the Egyptian daily Al Goumhouriya on the day after the massacre that the real responsibility lies with all Egyptians in general, and the religious schools in particular: "All Egyptians are responsible. It is our society which has incubated these criminals and we are their refuge since they live, hide, kill and come back amongst us. [The religious Islamic University of Al Azhar and its Koranic schools] fill the heads with Islamic teaching, which is but a kind of brain-washing," states Mahfouz al Ansari. Describing the Al Azhar and its religious schools as factories for producing extremists, Ansari also drew a direct parallel with the massacres in Algeria, and criticized the silence of the religious sheikhs.

Reported by Ibn Warraq

12 posted on 09/30/2003 11:48:31 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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. . . whose jailed leaders renounced violence six years ago . . .

Sure, right after they hacked 58 tourists to death. They're cold-blooded murdering savages. Why not also believe they might be liars?

14 posted on 09/30/2003 11:49:41 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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This is what will happen in GITMO when the DemoCraps regain the White House.
15 posted on 09/30/2003 11:54:18 AM PDT by OrioleFan
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This is what will happen in GITMO when the DemoCraps regain the White House.
16 posted on 09/30/2003 11:54:18 AM PDT by OrioleFan
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To: TastyManatees
Well I hate to bring this up, but Egypt is only doing what the US has urged Israel to do in the interest of furthering the peace process.
18 posted on 09/30/2003 11:58:33 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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Analysts said that freeing so many members of the outlawed al-Gama'a al-Islamiya (Islamic Group), whose jailed leaders renounced violence six years ago, would help the movement gain a political voice and could strengthen the hand of more moderate Islamists in the Arab world's most populous country.

White is black
up is down
right is left and
square is round

22 posted on 09/30/2003 12:09:25 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9711/18/egypt.attack.mubarak/

Most of the victims were from Switzerland, Japan, Germany, Britain, Bulgaria, Colombia and France. Authorities were still trying to identify some of the victims, and hospital sources said there were signs that the attackers had mutilated some of those killed.

"They shot everyone in the arms and legs. Then they killed everyone who was still alive with a shot to the head," said one victim, who said she survived because she was covered by the bodies of two tourists killed when her group was attacked.

Most of the victims were Swiss, and Switzerland's President Arnold Koller denounced the attack

24 posted on 09/30/2003 12:21:26 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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Mad Mo's book the Koran should be renamed "Appetite for Blood"
28 posted on 09/30/2003 1:04:54 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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Three Iranian immigrants arrested at Pilgrim nuclear plant in Plymouth

By Maureen Boyle, ENTERPRISE STAFF WRITER

PLYMOUTH — Three men caught with camera equipment on the grounds surrounding the nuclear power plant were arrested and interrogated by federal and local authorities.

The trio, who police say came to the United States as teenagers from Iran, were spotted at the Pilgrim Nuclear Power Station Saturday morning walking along a restricted beach near the plant. They were arrested on trespassing charges. The men told authorities they were hiking.

"It sounded at first a little ominous," said David F. Tarantino, spokesman for Entergy, owner of the plant. "The beach is very difficult to navigate. It is not like a stroll along a sandy beach. It is a beach with big boulders and rocks. It is really a tough exercise to navigate."

The men told authorities they were touring Plymouth, he said. "They said they like to hike and they were hiking along the shore," he said.

Fariborz Motamedi, 42, of 23 Panettieri Drive, Lakeville; Amir M. Lashgari, 41, of 2001 Marina Drive, Quincy, and Hamid H. Ahmadi, 49, of 7 Brahman Drive, Norton, were arrested, charged and later released after extensive questioning by authorities.

Attempts to reach the three men this morning were unsuccessful.

A phone number listed to Motamedi in Taunton was disconnected and there was no listing for him in Lakeville. There was no phone listing for Ahmadi in Norton. The number of Lashgari in Quincy was nonpublished.

Plant security staff first noticed the three men as they neared the posted restricted area and stopped them when they got in, Tarantino said.

"They had been under constant surveillance," he said.

Plymouth police and the FBI were called in and digital camera equipment the men had with them was confiscated, he said.

Authorities examined all the photographs, he said. There were no known photographs of the plant taken, he said.

The men told police they parked at White Horse Beach and hiked onto the grounds. Police said the men had been in town before in the last two weeks.

Tarantino said security surrounding the plant has been increased since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. There have been several arrests of people who have crossed into the restricted area, either by land or water, he said. Those cases included a person in a kayak who landed on the beach and fishermen who strayed into restricted waters.

"Our policy is to arrest," Tarantino said of anyone who strays into the restricted area surrounding the plant.

32 posted on 09/30/2003 2:40:48 PM PDT by getget
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These men murdered or helped plan the murder of 58 tourists in 1997.

All 900 of them? On what charges were they imprisoned, I wonder? I'd like to see a list for all 900. After all, it was the Egyptian goverment that imprisoned them. Not a government that I would trust to identify terrorists in the first place.

The same group that assassinated Sadat? What game is Mubarak playing? Is it appeasement of terrorism or bribery?

I don't think I'm being perverse in asking these questions, and I certainly wouldn't doubt that any of the 900 are folks who shouldn't be running around free. Nevertheless, there has to be more to this story.

35 posted on 09/30/2003 3:27:04 PM PDT by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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These men murdered or helped plan the murder of 58 tourists in 1997. I recall reading that some were shot, while others were hauled from their bus and hacked to death with swords while their friends and family watched and waited for their turns to die.

Anybody who goes to the Middle East, especially Egypt and Saudi Arabia, is asking for trouble. Let's see how well the uncivilized people of the ME get along ON THIER OWN, without US tourist income. After they have shown that they can behave in a civilized manner for, say 30-40 years, they can call us.

37 posted on 09/30/2003 6:08:38 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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"...and gained infamy for the murder of 58 tourists in the town of Luxor in 1997 by a faction opposed to the cease-fire."

As you pointed out.........these bloodthirsty a**holes didn't just shoot these poor tourists; they committed unspeakable atrocities upon them, and these innocent visitors to that God-forsaken country died horrible deaths.

.....and the government there decides to call "allie-allie-outs-in-free" because their leaders by golly gee whillakers just SWEAR they don't want to hurt anyone any more.

God forgive me for how I hate the Middle East 'culture'. They're swine.

39 posted on 09/30/2003 6:35:41 PM PDT by RightOnline
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"This shows the Egyptian government is sure now there is no threat of problems from the group. They are sure of its transformation from violence to a political group," said Diaa Rashwan, an expert on Islamic militant groups at the Cairo-based al-Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies.

Is that really what this shows? I don't think so.

42 posted on 10/01/2003 8:26:40 AM PDT by samtheman
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