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Was it really a secret that Joe Wilson's wife worked for the CIA? (AWESOME Dirt On Joe Wilson!)
National Review ^ | September 29, 2003 | Clifford D. May

Posted on 09/29/2003 11:52:21 AM PDT by Pubbie

It's the top story in the Washington Post this morning as well as in many other media outlets. Who leaked the fact that the wife of Joseph C. Wilson IV worked for the CIA?

What also might be worth asking: "Who didn't know?"

I believe I was the first to publicly question the credibility of Mr. Wilson, a retired diplomat sent to Niger to look into reports that Saddam Hussein had attempted to purchase yellowcake uranium for his nuclear-weapons program.

On July 6, Mr. Wilson wrote an op-ed for the New York Times in which he said: "I have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq's nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat."

On July 11, I wrote a piece for NRO arguing that Mr. Wilson had no basis for that conclusion — and that his political leanings and associations (not disclosed by the Times and others journalists interviewing him) cast serious doubt on his objectivity.

On July 14, Robert Novak wrote a column in the Post and other newspapers naming Mr. Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, as a CIA operative.

That wasn't news to me. I had been told that — but not by anyone working in the White House. Rather, I learned it from someone who formerly worked in the government and he mentioned it in an offhanded manner, leading me to infer it was something that insiders were well aware of.

I chose not to include it (I wrote a second NRO piece on this issue on July 18) because it didn't seem particularly relevant to the question of whether or not Mr. Wilson should be regarded as a disinterested professional who had done a thorough investigation into Saddam's alleged attempts to purchase uranium in Africa.

What did appear relevant could easily be found in what the CIA would call "open sources." For example, Mr. Wilson had long been a bitter critic of the current administration, writing in such left-wing publications as The Nation that under President Bush, "America has entered one of it periods of historical madness" and had "imperial ambitions."

What's more, he was affiliated with the pro-Saudi Middle East Institute and he had recently been the keynote speaker for the Education for Peace in Iraq Center, a far-Left group that opposed not only the U.S. military intervention in Iraq but also the sanctions and the no-fly zones that protected Iraqi Kurds and Shias from being slaughtered by Saddam.

Mr. Wilson is now saying (on C-SPAN this morning, for example) that he opposed military action in Iraq because he didn't believe Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and he foresaw the possibility of a difficult occupation. In fact, prior to the U.S. invasion, Mr. Wilson told ABC's Dave Marash that if American troops were sent into Iraq, Saddam might "use a biological weapon in a battle that we might have. For example, if we're taking Baghdad or we're trying to take, in ground-to-ground, hand-to-hand combat."

Equally, important and also overlooked: Mr. Wilson had no apparent background or skill as an investigator. As Mr. Wilson himself acknowledged, his so-called investigation was nothing more than "eight days drinking sweet mint tea and meeting with dozens of people" at the U.S. embassy in Niger. Based on those conversations, he concluded that "it was highly doubtful that any [sale of uranium from Niger to Iraq] had ever taken place."

That's hardly the same as disproving what British intelligence believed — and continues to believe: that Saddam Hussein was actively attempting to purchase uranium from somewhere in Africa. (Whether Saddam succeeded or not isn't the point; were Saddam attempting to make such purchases it would suggest that his nuclear-weapons-development program was active and ongoing.)

For some reason, this background and these questions have been consistently omitted in the Establishment media's reporting on Mr. Wilson and his charges.

There also remains this intriguing question: Was it primarily due to the fact that Mr. Wilson's wife worked for the CIA that he received the Niger assignment?

Mr. Wilson has said that his mission came about following a request from Vice President Cheney. But it appears that if Mr. Cheney made the request at all, he made it of the CIA and did not know Mr. Wilson and certainly did not specify that he wanted Mr. Wilson put on the case.

It has to be seen as puzzling that the agency would deal with an inquiry from the White House on a sensitive national-security matter by sending a retired, Bush-bashing diplomat with no investigative experience. Or didn't the CIA bother to look into Mr. Wilson's background?

If that's what passes for tradecraft in Langley, we're in more trouble than any of us have realized.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blackshirts; cia; clifforddmay; communistsubversion; espionagelist; green; joewilson; niger; traitorlist; wilson; yellowcake
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To: Pubbie
Ok, you guilted me...I sent it to Hannity. The email that I had for him was seanshow@abc.com

If this isn't right, someone let me know.

41 posted on 09/29/2003 1:08:41 PM PDT by mattdono
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To: CyberAnt
For those of us Americans who have lived overseas in recent years, it is all too obvious how many Clinton leftovers/loyalists are still on the payrolls at US consulates and embassies abroad.

The Bush administration needs to clean house at the State Dept. with the help of some rat-catching pest-control experts.
42 posted on 09/29/2003 1:41:22 PM PDT by MissouriForBush
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To: Pubbie
Thanks for posting that. I called called away from my FRED (computer:) I see Chuckie cancelled his presser...
43 posted on 09/29/2003 1:53:54 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: ravingnutter
Because Novak never said administration officials gave him that info.


7777

Sean Hannity just read a comment from Novak, issued today, that he got the info on wilson's wife, from a CIA official, NOT from anyone at the White House.
44 posted on 09/29/2003 2:18:34 PM PDT by maica
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To: Republican Red
It is legal for a State Department person to be married to a spook. Sounds like a conflict to me.
Count on C-Span to provide a mike for any anti-Bush ranters.
The MORNING JOURNAL couldn't be worse if it were paid for by the DNC. . . they certainly are allowed to provide all the responses. Hate Bush line is straightforward while the
like Bush line starts with but I used to like Bush and then the same rant.
45 posted on 09/29/2003 2:53:29 PM PDT by SouthCarolinaKit
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To: SouthCarolinaKit
Greg Knapp, Talk Radio, KLIF 570 AM, Dallas/Ft Worth, TX

Greg will be covering the Wilson/Yellowcake/Whitehouse "Leak" issue in the next hour (5:05pm CST). Greg and his staff always do excellent research, and Greg is as sharp as a tack. Must listen. Oline here:

http://www.streamaudio.com/listen?station=KLIF_AM

46 posted on 09/29/2003 2:59:14 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Pubbie
Mr. Wilson is now saying (on C-SPAN this morning, for example) that he opposed military action in Iraq because he didn't believe Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and he foresaw the possibility of a difficult occupation. In fact, prior to the U.S. invasion, Mr. Wilson told ABC's Dave Marash that if American troops were sent into Iraq, Saddam might "use a biological weapon in a battle that we might have. For example, if we're taking Baghdad or we're trying to take, in ground-to-ground, hand-to-hand combat."

In additon to Wilson's comments to ABC's Maresh, he spoke with Bill Moyers in February 2003 (after SOTU speech, but no comment from Wilson about any quarrel he had with President Bush's uranium refererence):

In Depth — Transcript, February 28, 2003, Bill Moyers talks with Joseph C. Wilson, IV

EXCERPT:

MOYERS: President Bush's recent speech to the American Enterprise Institute, he said, let me quote it to you. "The danger posed by Saddam Hussein and his weapons cannot be ignored or wished away." You agree with that?

WILSON: I agree with that. Sure. I...

MOYERS: "The danger must be confronted." You agree with that? "We would hope that the Iraqi regime will meet the demands of the United Nations and disarm fully and peacefully. If it does not, we are prepared to disarm Iraq by force. Either way, this danger will be removed. The safety of the American people depends on ending this direct and growing threat." You agree with that?

WILSON: I agree with that. Sure. The President goes on to say in that speech as he did in the State of the Union Address is we will liberate Iraq from a brutal dictator. All of which is true.

47 posted on 09/29/2003 3:12:05 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Fred Mertz
Why is Novak getting the kid glove treatment?

NOVAK: 'NOBODY IN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION CALLED ME TO LEAK THIS'

Excerpt:

According to a confidential source at the CIA, Mrs. Wilson was an analyst, not a spy, not a covert operator, and not in charge of an undercover operatives...

48 posted on 09/29/2003 3:15:26 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: aristeides
Absolutely!! And .. I hope the WH admin will follow through and fire them!!
49 posted on 09/29/2003 3:15:31 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America - The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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To: aristeides
Whoever revealed this classified information on which lives depended

Why are you buying the Wilson/lib line that this was classified information on which lives depended?

First, the very first part of the article this thread is based on says:

It's the top story in the Washington Post this morning as well as in many other media outlets. Who leaked the fact that the wife of Joseph C. Wilson IV worked for the CIA?

What also might be worth asking: "Who didn't know?"

And, as I just posted a link to Novak's latest comments, Plame was not a spy, under-cover or any of that. She was an analyst.

50 posted on 09/29/2003 3:19:37 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: seamole
You have such great data, I think I will just click on 'seamole' when I open FR. It will save me a lot of time just to read what you are presenting.
53 posted on 09/29/2003 4:16:03 PM PDT by maica
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To: Pubbie
Here's an interesting Beeb link. Apparently the CIA source was popping off to the Beeb last July.
54 posted on 09/29/2003 4:17:50 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: seamole
http://www.instadv.ucsb.edu/93106/2003/January21/calendar.html

"Former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson speaks on "Iraq: Disarmament or Conquest? The Case against Regime Change" in a free lecture. "

He was speaking against the war on Jan 22, 2003
55 posted on 09/29/2003 6:02:08 PM PDT by claudiustg
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