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Giant star caught swallowing three planets
New Scientist ^ | 09/17/03 | Emma Young

Posted on 09/17/2003 7:27:05 AM PDT by bedolido

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To: bedolido
Bad, Star, bad!
21 posted on 09/17/2003 7:45:19 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: bedolido
Easy come, easy go.
22 posted on 09/17/2003 7:46:10 AM PDT by js1138
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To: bedolido
Planet Rock

Afrika Bambaataa/Kraftwerk hip-hop/techno bump

23 posted on 09/17/2003 7:46:45 AM PDT by csvset
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To: bedolido
analysis of light emissions from the star indicates that it was a red giant that expanded and successively swallowed three relatively massive planets

... Existing models of what will happen when our Sun expands to become a red giant, in about one billion years, suggest that Venus and Mercury will both be engulfed. The likely fate of the Earth is unclear. "Our work suggests that once one planet is engulfed, there is an eruption, and then further expansion - so it might suggest that Earth will indeed be swallowed. But this will need to be checked carefully with the models," Retter says.

I really doubt the expanding sun swallowing Mercury or Venus will have much of an effect on the total expansion.

The planets that caused the eruptions in V838 Mon were "relatively massive", probably putting them in a range of 10-20 Mj, possibly up to 35 Mj -- almost enough to trigger fusion on their own, and definately enough to emit more radiation then they absorb.

In terms of mass, the sun swallowing both Mercury and Venus would add .0002 percent more mass to the sun. Now, if the sun were to swallow three 10 Mj planets, it would add 3% to the Sun's mass. Quite a difference.

24 posted on 09/17/2003 7:50:30 AM PDT by jae471
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To: StriperSniper
A giant star has been caught in the act of swallowing three planets, one after the other, with each "meal" accompanied by a massive eruption.


25 posted on 09/17/2003 7:54:09 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (proudly taunting calvinists (my Christian brothers) since 2001)
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To: bedolido
when our Sun expands to become a red giant, in about one billion years

I thought we had 5 billion years before that happened. What happened to our other 4 billion years?

Time to invest in beachfront property on Mars, I guess.

26 posted on 09/17/2003 7:55:52 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: bedolido
Giant star caught swallowing three planets

Jeremy Shockey opened his mouth again???

JK. This is cool stuff. To capture it on film is awesome.

27 posted on 09/17/2003 7:59:39 AM PDT by rintense (9-11-01: Never Forget.)
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To: bedolido
Ancient mythology states that Saturn swallowed several of it's moons. Big Red Spot on Juptiter perhaps a swallowed moon?
28 posted on 09/17/2003 8:02:46 AM PDT by #3Fan
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To: bedolido
Giant star caught swallowing three planets

Well, the Giants sure "caught their lunch" on Monday night.

29 posted on 09/17/2003 8:07:27 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: bedolido
A giant star has been caught in the act of swallowing three planets,

and while police had some difficulty handcuffing the stellar body, he reportedly went without struggle.

"We intend to charge him with Fiery and Disorderly, Disturbing the Cosmos, and Unlicensed Planet Annihilation," said Sheriff Fess Green. "While they may be stars, they are not above the law."

30 posted on 09/17/2003 8:11:48 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: bedolido
Barry Bonds?
31 posted on 09/17/2003 8:16:09 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: bedolido
Monoceros always seemed like such a quiet, well-behaved constellation...the kind of neighborhood where it was safe to take a walk after dark...kind of dull and inoffensive, really. I'm shocked to learn that this kind of conduct is going on there.
32 posted on 09/17/2003 8:28:50 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: bedolido
Horrors!! The extinction of millions of unique species, no doubt.

An ecological nightmare!! Evolutionary masterpieces----gone forever!!

And remember----it happened on George Bush's watch!

33 posted on 09/17/2003 8:33:42 AM PDT by cookcounty
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To: csvset
Old school bump! Play at your own Risk
34 posted on 09/17/2003 8:40:57 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: RadioAstronomer; longshadow; PatrickHenry
Ping
35 posted on 09/17/2003 8:53:52 AM PDT by Aracelis
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To: Pyro7480; bedolido
Today's APOD image is one of the most thought-provoking I've ever seen:

The image of the 'soap-bubble distribution' of galaxies in the universe is truly striking (but not unexpected).

However, I find the "from the inside-looking out" view of our own galaxy (the blue "sash" across the middle that wraps around the edges) to be profound evidence of where we as a planet -- and as beings -- fit into the whole scheme of things.

The full-size (1496K) image of today's photo (which can be reached by visiting today's APOD page and clicking on the reduced-size image shown above) is absolutely mind-blowing! In it, you can see familiar dust-lane features of our Milky Way galaxy -- especially where it "wraps around" the edges of the image. (...looking back toward galactic center...)

If you think about it and visualize how the image was made (from our viewpoint), you can tell that we are out on one edge of a discoidal mass of stars -- and that the image is as if the 'camera' 'panned' around a circle at right angles to the disc of our galaxy.

Notice that the blue band of our galaxy doesn't wrap completely around the edge of the image; (its form is that of a great "S" lying on its side). Just below center in the blue "sash" is the lowest-density point; I interpret that to be the direction of view out through the nearest edge of our galactic disc.

That's quite an exercise in spatial visualization, but the insights to be gained are well worth the effort... Its ramifications for fundamentalist Creationists (who insist that the Earth and Man are the center and raison d'etre of all Creation ) should strain their simplistic, geocentric, homocentric, and egocentric views of the universe...

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(Let's see how long it takes before someone sneeringly mentions "the E-word"...)

36 posted on 09/17/2003 9:21:46 AM PDT by TXnMA (No Longer!!! -- and glad to be back home in God's Gountry!!)
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To: bedolido
Giant star caught swallowing three planets

Is Oprah off her latest diet?

37 posted on 09/17/2003 9:23:58 AM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: Larry Lucido
Time to invest in beachfront property on Mars

Mars will go, too. Take a look at Europa, or as it will be known, Waterworld.

38 posted on 09/17/2003 9:26:31 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: mhking
1. This is way cool
2. This deserves an awe-filled "just... daaaaaaaamn!"
3. the thread has headline-induced riotous potential.
39 posted on 09/17/2003 9:30:10 AM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: RadioAstronomer
I'd appreciate your comments re my musings in #36...

(The photo brings to mind that old image of the galaxy with an arrow pointing to a spot 'way out near the edge -- with the caption, "You Are Here!"...

40 posted on 09/17/2003 9:37:53 AM PDT by TXnMA (No Longer!!! -- and glad to be back home in God's Gountry!!)
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