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In Speech, Bush to Ask Americans and Allies for Teamwork on Iraq
Washington Post ^
| 9-7-03
| Mike Allen
Posted on 09/06/2003 8:39:16 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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posted on
09/06/2003 8:39:17 PM PDT
by
dogbyte12
To: dogbyte12
Pathetic.
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posted on
09/06/2003 8:43:55 PM PDT
by
ambrose
(Fight The Real Enemy...)
To: dogbyte12
I have a feeling this speech will not go over well with many freepers. I do not like the 'put the disagreements behind' posturing crap.
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posted on
09/06/2003 8:44:39 PM PDT
by
rintense
(9-11-01: Never Forget.)
To: dogbyte12
"Bush does not plan to announce the discovery of any nuclear, chemical or biological weapons in Iraq, his staff said."
Will he even mention the status of WMD? We are owed at least that!
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posted on
09/06/2003 8:46:37 PM PDT
by
KantianBurke
(The Federal govt should be protecting us from terrorists, not handing out goodies)
To: dogbyte12
do not be un-equally yoked
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posted on
09/06/2003 8:47:09 PM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: dogbyte12
why do they release the text of these speeches in advance, don't they know the media will just edit and cut it up and trash it before he actually delivers it?
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posted on
09/06/2003 8:49:08 PM PDT
by
oceanview
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To: ambrose
consider the source....this is a pre attack to set the
" he didn't meet expectations " bar.
bet ole Dubya is famously classic tomorrow.
To: dogbyte12
If (notice I say if)he says this can you say one term.
There is no reason to go to the reast of the world.
He have the resources and the man power to do any job we put our minds to, of course, maybe we no longer have the will and we should all submit to Allah.
FMCDH
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posted on
09/06/2003 8:50:51 PM PDT
by
dts32041
("Moderate Arab" he's the one who detonates his bomb via remote control.)
To: rintense
I have a feeling the administration know this won't go over to well with the base, so they are slowly leaking details out to cushion the blow.
The problem is cost and troops. I do blame some of the president's advisors for this one. Wolfowitz was bragging right as the Saddam statue fell that we would be scaling back to 30,000 troops in country by the fall. He really believed that the Baathists would just give up.
The problem as I have seen it, from sources that I believe are non-biased, is that we won too quickly in the south. We basically only did structural damage in the north, but not much damage to personnel.
It was always one of my worries. Some of Saddam's people are so evil, that there is no place for them other than in a grave. The people who were abused by these murderous scum, are not going to forgive and forget. These Baathists are stuck. They can't all just blend in, and let bygones be bygones. They have every incentive to keep attacking us, and hoping our will falters.
In their place, (if I was a murderous scum sucker like them), I would be doing the same. Unless they get a genuine amnesty,(which in itself is unacceptable) there really is no reason for them to quit fighting a guerrilla war.
A guerrilla war takes time, it takes money, it takes bodies. Wolfowitz was wrong. We need help from other nations now that it has devolved into this. The president is doing right by our troops by asking for assistance. Losing face is less important than losing any troops unneccessarily.
To: dogbyte12
He also will reveal the amount of money he plans to request from Congress for Iraq next year, officials said. Congress aint paying a nickel of this...the taxpayers are
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posted on
09/06/2003 8:54:30 PM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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bet ole Dubya is famously classic tomorrow.Right. They've had a long time to prepare. This will shore up domestic support, as people who want to believe we did the right thing will hear what they want to hear (minus WMDs).
Noone in their right mind will think it will sway any Dean lefties! Nor many Euros. But this will start a drumbeat for the international push.
To: rintense
. I do not like the 'put the disagreements behind' posturing crap."Why can't we all just get along" -- Rodney King.
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posted on
09/06/2003 8:57:30 PM PDT
by
templar
To: oceanview
It's a crappy speach; it sucks no matter when and how it is released.
This pretty mush sums it up for me:
"Analysts called the address an attempt by Bush to take command at a time when his justification for the war has proved factually flawed, his planning for the occupation is being criticized as inadequate, and Iraq is beset by rising sectarianism, sabotage and chaos."
I remember that in the old days international diplomacy took place behind close doors and only the resolutions were included in speaches. When, you try to negotiate world opinion in a speech, you just make an ass out of yourself. Bush should consider firing his entire State Department.
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posted on
09/06/2003 8:59:01 PM PDT
by
ARCADIA
(Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
To: dogbyte12
What's very worrisome is that having miscalculated on what's required for the reconstruction of Iraq and having failed to discover WMDs, which is bad enough, the administration then compounds the error by going begging to the french as a solution. Does anyone really think that the french would say that all is forgiven and they're ready to play ball now? This is crazy. It's clear that the President is being badly advised.
They're now spending close to $400 billion for defense. If this Iraqi campaign is stretching our forces to the breaking point, then where is all that money going? We still have 110,000 troops in Germany. Bring them in if more force is required in Iraq. Don't go begging to the french. The President has no right to have our country humiliated like this.
Of course, we don't know what's in the speech, do we? He may announce that they found those 38,000 liters of anthrax for all I know. What I do know is that there is a perception that things are going wrong. If that perception is false then the administration has done a terrible PR job, and if it's right then we need better solutions than asking the french to save our bacon.
I'm really steamed. Ted Kennedy is running our domestic agenda and we need the french to save us in Iraq. At this rate they'll be swearing in Hillary Clinton before you can say "hail to the chief".
To: dts32041
We don't have the resources-- especially to meet threats from nations that might take advantage of our committment in Iraq. We absolutely have enough resources to win wars like we did in Iraq. We are occupying Iraq now and that requires much more than we have at hand.
To: KantianBurke; Burkeman1; JohnGalt; sheltonmac
Will he even mention the status of WMD? We are owed at least that!Heck I'll tell you that and you won't even have to watch. Hussein didn't have them at the levels suggested by this administration. Did he have any? Frankly I don't know and don't care. Iraq did not present a direct and immediate threat to this nation of states. The WMDs weren't moved to Syria, Iraq, or Lebanon either. This is a speech that I expected to come. Bush realizes now they weren't prepared for 'post liberation' (although I have heard the 'O' word coming from some reports) Iraq. The PNAC has got better things to do now with Liberia and Iran. So they're just going to hand it over to the UN to clean up.
Granted Wolfowitz was right in that troops will be there for 10-12 years at least (I suspect longer) but that's no nevermind. We're fighting the 'war of terror'! How we've somehow missed Saudi Arabia, our 'ally', in this war, I'll never know....
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posted on
09/06/2003 9:00:12 PM PDT
by
billbears
(Deo Vindice)
To: dogbyte12
We need help from other nations now that it has devolved into this. Isn't that what we had in Somalia?
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posted on
09/06/2003 9:01:18 PM PDT
by
templar
To: cars for sale
if he goes on TV and grovels for the U.N. help, you can say hello to President Dean.
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posted on
09/06/2003 9:01:32 PM PDT
by
ambrose
(Fight The Real Enemy...)
To: templar
Yeah, and look what happened to Rodney King.
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posted on
09/06/2003 9:01:32 PM PDT
by
rintense
(9-11-01: Never Forget.)
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