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America dumps felons in Cambodia
Asia Times ^ | 09.05.03 | Richard S Ehrlich

Posted on 09/04/2003 9:44:18 AM PDT by Dr. Marten

America dumps felons in Cambodia
By Richard S Ehrlich

PHNOM PENH - Fresh from America's prisons, dozens of convicted gang-bangers, sex criminals, thieves, drug abusers, stalkers and other felons have been forcibly sent to Cambodia as part of 1,400 ex-cons who are being handcuffed, shackled and flown here on US government planes.

"I was convicted of assault and battery of a police officer in Massachusetts, an aggravated felony. After I was incarcerated for one year in Massachusetts, I was sent here," said Phok Chhoeuth in an interview in the Cambodian capital.

He was also a manic depressive who spent years eating Ritalin, lithium and Thorazine. When he arrived in Cambodia with no medication, he flipped out and went hostile. Without his "meds", he became a raving lunatic in the streets of Phnom Penh and Siem Reap, hallucinating, suffering bizarre beliefs and getting beaten and jailed by terrified locals, he said.

"I can't think straight when I'm manic," Chhoeuth said, depressed that the US government dumped him here on the other side of the world, in a dismal land still traumatized by the legacy of the late Pol Pot's "killing fields".

The US government insists its forced deportations are a magnificent solution to crime. Under a March 2002 agreement signed by Washington and Phnom Penh, the US Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) can deport any Cambodians convicted of aggravated felonies after the criminals finish their prison terms in the United States.

Even if the ex-cons grew up as kids and teenagers in the US, or have lived in the US as adults for many years, if they neglected to secure US citizenship, they are shoved out of airplanes into the country of their birth, even if they can't speak the language and don't know anyone.

After their arrival in Phnom Penh, their handcuffs and shackles are unlocked. They are then free to wander Cambodia's slums, minefields and jungles, but forbidden to return to the US.

Some were ripped away from their children, spouses and other relatives in the US when the INS locked them in a Kafkaesque maze of jails and detention centers before deportation.

One of the weirdest cases occurred when a Cambodian man was busted in Houston for urinating in public, which was interpreted as a sex crime similar to exhibitionism - taboo especially because children might see it. Five years into a six-year parole for the crime, cops caught him again pissing in the street. Urinating in public was not a major crime, but his breaking a law while on parole was a felony. So he was deported to Cambodia, despite being a construction-site supervisor in Houston.

At least 67 felons from the US are currently in Phnom Penh and other Cambodian cities, including many who display street-gang tattoos, baggy pants, colored bandannas and sweatshirts common in the US but curiously freaky in Southeast Asia.

"I didn't know what was going on - I didn't know what INS was or what it stands for," Chhoeuth said, wincing in confusion.

In 1998, he had just finished a year behind bars for a 1997 police assault and expected to be released and allowed to return home, just like any other inmate. Prison authorities, however, handed him over to INS agents who had discovered he was born in Battambang, Cambodia, even though he had lived in the US since he was seven years old.

INS held him in federal detention centers and hospitals in Louisiana, Missouri and Oklahoma for an additional four years, he said. Several thin, straight, whitish scars marked his forearm where he said he slashed himself while languishing under INS control. Last September, ignoring his plea for political asylum, US officials escorted him - handcuffed and shackled - on a one-way flight to Phnom Penh.

"My dad asked me to go to a citizenship ceremony in 1990, when I was 18, but I didn't go," Chhoeuth said. "I was already a permanent resident, so I thought to be a citizen just meant I could vote ... I didn't know when you do something wrong, you get deported."

The felons from the US are now either peacefully blending into Cambodia's traditional, Buddhist-majority society or establishing themselves as the newest, roughest gang in town.

Many find shelter at the Returnee Assistance Project (RAP) recently set up by Bill Herod, 58, an American who has spent many years in Cambodia working on projects designed to mend this country's social wounds.

RAP includes a modest guesthouse, Internet link and counseling center while functioning as a place where "returnees" can mix with each other, snuggle with neighborhood girlfriends and learn how to adapt to life in one of the world's poorest countries.

On the wall, however, a RAP "security notice" warns: "The undercover officers who enjoy your companionship so much at The Heart [nightclub] and other nightspots many of you frequent can be expected to be fairly aggressive in their search for suspects to take into custody on suspicion of being troublemakers or even terrorists."

The warning advised them "to practice your low-profile mode" to avoid arrest.

Some deportees, meanwhile, treat RAP's halfway house with crude indifference. One heavily tattooed resident chuckled while his puppy tugged on a leash and urinated on RAP's red concrete floor next to a picnic table in the front yard. "My cat never does that," the white-haired Herod quipped before meekly mopping up the yellow puddle while the young man snickered, smirked and sauntered away.

"There was an incident at The Heart when four of our guys [returnees] had been arrested after a British gentleman was savagely beaten, a bottle broken over his head and a cheekbone kicked in," Herod said later in an interview, describing other difficulties in running the RAP center. "It became clear our guys had done it ... just a gang-bang beating, there was no point to it. Everybody was drunk and they decided to beat him. He was a likable guy, not the sort of person who would cause a commotion in a bar.

"The police said they had enough evidence to go before a judge. So we paid an amount equivalent of his lost salary and medical treatment. "I shelled out the cash," Herod added.

Other cases were more upbeat. Some felons have found work and prospered in Cambodia, using their managerial skills, US education and fluency in English to fill positions where Cambodians couldn't compete.

But a lot more felons will soon be arriving. "There are 67 returnees in-country now and about 1,400 to come. We expect the US to send 12-15 people a month for the next 10 years," Herod said. "We don't have any women who have arrived yet but they are in the pipeline, mothers who are being deported for corporal punishment of their children, and female gang members."

RAP receives US$1,000 a month from the American Friends Services Committee, and scored one-time grants of $5,000 each from Oxfam America and Refugees International, plus other donations, he said. "Our operating costs are $6,000 a month and salaries haven't been paid for months," he said, anxious about future funding.

"With a felony conviction resulting in a year or more jail time - even if suspended - deportation is mandatory," Herod said.

"The vast majority went to the US as children and the [citizenship] paperwork is something their parents should have done, but they didn't know about it, nobody told them about it," he said. "These are political refugees and their resettlement failed. They were put in big cities with poverty, racism, dysfunctional families while struggling to cope with life in the United States."

When Herod reads the name list of new arrivals, he checks for possible violent cases. "If I see street [gang] names, and ages under 25 from California, I worry. I think we already have four of the Tiny Rascals Gang, plus some from the 'Cold-Blooded Cambodian Killers' or some nonsense gang name," Herod said.

The Tiny Rascals Gang began in California in the mid-1980s and is now considered the largest Asian gang in the US, entrenched on the west and east coasts. It is primarily composed of ethnic Southeast Asians, but also includes some Hispanics, Caucasians and others.

"If there is a way I can get back to the States, I want to see my family," Chhoeuth said, insisting he now takes medication to behave. "My son is there. He is six years old. I never even got a chance to see him born. But I'm probably stuck here," he said, looking desperate.

"It's not that you miss America. You miss your family," he said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cambodia; criminals; deported
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"It's not that you miss America. You miss your family," he said"

Oh, please...cry me a river!!

Don't do the crime if you cant do the time.

1 posted on 09/04/2003 9:44:19 AM PDT by Dr. Marten
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To: Dr. Marten
Is this true?

I've never heard of sending US citizens overseas for punishment.
2 posted on 09/04/2003 9:47:29 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Dr. Marten
Poor babies...the little criminals suffer so...
3 posted on 09/04/2003 9:48:23 AM PDT by Rubber_Duckie_27
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To: Dr. Marten
There should have been a barf alert on this title.
4 posted on 09/04/2003 9:49:02 AM PDT by Eala (There is, however, a limit at which forbearance ceases to be a virtue. --Burke)
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To: Dr. Marten
"Holiday in Cambodia"?
5 posted on 09/04/2003 9:51:01 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Dr. Marten
Too bad we can't deport them before they do the crime. I can't understand the pity party crap of this article. The author is a Twit.
6 posted on 09/04/2003 9:51:04 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Dr. Marten
Fine by me. They violated our hospitality so send them back to their own country. We don't need to waste anymore time, money, or fear of future crimes from them.
7 posted on 09/04/2003 9:52:18 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: CJ Wolf
I Couldn't agree with you more. I wish we would do this to every foreign nationale that comits a crime in this country.

Zero Tollerance for crimes comitted by foreign nationales.
8 posted on 09/04/2003 9:52:52 AM PDT by Dr. Marten (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it)
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To: Dr. Marten
Good plan!

I'd just recommend one little improvement. Don't bother to land, just push em out.
9 posted on 09/04/2003 9:57:21 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Ugh!)
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To: Dr. Marten
"I can't think straight when I'm manic,"

Now THAT would make a great FReeper Tagline!

10 posted on 09/04/2003 9:59:06 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Saddam Had No Taepodong-II nuke ICBMs capable of hitting the World's Largest & 2nd Largest Economies)
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To: OXENinFLA
"I've never heard of sending US citizens overseas for punishment."

They're not citizens, and I think this is a great idea. Cry me a river you people. Something tells me that the guy doing the urinating in public wasn't pissing in a corner of a dark alley. He probably whipped it out in the middle of State Street.

11 posted on 09/04/2003 10:09:34 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: Dr. Marten
Even if the ex-cons grew up as kids and teenagers in the US, or have lived in the US as adults for many years, if they neglected to secure US citizenship, they are shoved out of airplanes into the country of their birth, even if they can't speak the language and don't know anyone.

Sorry, but the Cambodian population of Lowell, Massachusetts has few people who speak English. The people of Massachusetts recently passed a referendum requiring English immersion. And what did we learn? We learned that numerous "bilingual" teachers are at best monolingual because they could not pass the English proficiency test allegedly required of all teachers in Massachusetts.

The other thing anyone living to the north-northwest of Boston knows is that Cambodians have little respect for our laws and almost no respect for our police. Many of them are here illegally. Others who are here legally routinely commit crimes expecting not to be deported. The federal government is finally deporting those who are not U.S. citizens who commit crimes. The government should have been doing this all along. Wait! You mean they were until 1993?

One of the weirdest cases occurred when a Cambodian man was busted in Houston for urinating in public, which was interpreted as a sex crime similar to exhibitionism - taboo especially because children might see it. Five years into a six-year parole for the crime, cops caught him again pissing in the street. Urinating in public was not a major crime, but his breaking a law while on parole was a felony. So he was deported to Cambodia, despite being a construction-site supervisor in Houston.

So the author thinks urinating in public is an acceptable activity for a construction-site supervisor? Gee, maybe I am in the wrong line of work. I should be a newspaper story writer. Apparently, no brains are required for such a position.

In 1998, he (Chhoeuth) had just finished a year behind bars for a 1997 police assault and expected to be released and allowed to return home, just like any other inmate. Prison authorities, however, handed him over to INS agents who had discovered he was born in Battambang, Cambodia, even though he had lived in the US since he was seven years old.

INS held him in federal detention centers and hospitals in Louisiana, Missouri and Oklahoma for an additional four years, he said. Several thin, straight, whitish scars marked his forearm where he said he slashed himself while languishing under INS control. Last September, ignoring his plea for political asylum, US officials escorted him - handcuffed and shackled - on a one-way flight to Phnom Penh.

So this individual had been living in the U.S. for at least 11 years ( = 18 - 7) but had failed to become a citizen? We need to insist our immigration laws be changed to allow resident aliens to stay for a maximum of 10 years. If they do not become citizens within 10 years, we ought to ship them back.

What the writer does not say is that the INS had to hold him for four more years because they could not deport him until the courts acted upon his claim he needed political asylum. And I can assure you the INS did not IGNORE his plea.

"The vast majority went to the US as children and the [citizenship] paperwork is something their parents should have done, but they didn't know about it, nobody told them about it," he said. "These are political refugees and their resettlement failed. They were put in big cities with poverty, racism, dysfunctional families while struggling to cope with life in the United States."

Bull####! Their parents came to the U.S. with no intention of becoming citizens. These people had no intention of becoming citizens. I don't feel sorry for them in the least.

"It's not that you miss America. You miss your family," he said.

It's so touching hearing someone complain about missing his family. My family and I should not be placed at risk by allowing these felons and gangbangers to stay in this country. Deport all such thugs.

12 posted on 09/04/2003 10:15:00 AM PDT by Thor_Hammar
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To: OXENinFLA
That's the point: they're not citizens. They've never become citizens. They're foreign nationals who committed crimes in the US, and are being returned to their birthplace. I have no problem with it. If they want their families, they can always have them immigrate.

I don't understand the nanny-attitude of the fellow running the "shelter" in Cambodia: he pays for damages his inmates cause, he mops up their puppy pee--for nothing. The criminals are still criminals, ungrateful--there's something to be said for Christian charity, but there's also something to be said for not allowing oneself to be repeatedly used by evil people. After the first time, you remove yourself from the situation.

Regards,

13 posted on 09/04/2003 10:16:06 AM PDT by Missus (We're not trying to overpopulate the world, we're just trying to outnumber the idiots.)
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"I didn't know what was going on - I didn't know what INS was or what it stands for," Chhoeuth said, wincing in confusion.

"My dad asked me to go to a citizenship ceremony in 1990, when I was 18, but I didn't go," Chhoeuth said. "I was already a permanent resident, so I thought to be a citizen just meant I could vote ... I didn't know when you do something wrong, you get deported."

BULLSH!T

First of all these guys are FELONS that were RESIDENT ALIENS, NOT CITIZENS...just because you have a "GREEN CARD" (which is actually pink by the way) doesn't mean you are a Nationalized Citizen. The first thing I did when I moved to the US was to look up all of the information that I could, this guy is pleading ignorance, but how can he when his own father went through the process of becoming a citizen. If he was truly interested in the process he could have asked his father for information..

This document is available at most Social Security offices & online..

http://www.immigration.gov/graphics/services/natz/English.pdf

14 posted on 09/04/2003 10:17:57 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: OXENinFLA
Jeeeez.. Did you not even bother to READ the story?

It's CAMBODIAN criminals that we are deporting to Cambodia. Boo Hoo Hoo.
15 posted on 09/04/2003 10:18:02 AM PDT by John Valentine (In Seoul, and keeping one eye on the hills to the North...)
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To: Dr. Marten
Too bad there's no brass ones at the federal level to deport illegal aliens from south of the borders.

They've already committed a crime - they've violated immigration law. We don't even deport them when they are released from prison.

Ass, meet boot!
16 posted on 09/04/2003 10:29:28 AM PDT by adam_az
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To: Dr. Marten
I don't have a problem with this, anybody else???? For once I see the the Administration doing it job, great!
17 posted on 09/04/2003 10:31:18 AM PDT by chuknospam
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To: John Valentine
Oxen in FL- proudly posting without reading the article since June 12, 2002.
18 posted on 09/04/2003 10:36:44 AM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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" they are shoved out of airplanes into the country of their birth, even if they can't speak the language and don't know anyone"

This sentence makes it sound like the plane doesn't even land.....too bad we can't do the same with Mexican law breakers.

19 posted on 09/04/2003 10:37:40 AM PDT by Feiny (I can't think when I'm MANIC!!!!)
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To: Dr. Marten
What is up with guy who like to urinate in public? I can see it happening once if you are drunk....but after one arrest....you would think he'd find a bathroom.
20 posted on 09/04/2003 10:39:41 AM PDT by Feiny (I can't think straight when I'm MANIC!!!!)
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