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The Poll The Media Will Not Conduct in California
August 31, 2003 | Allan J. Favish

Posted on 08/31/2003 9:39:35 AM PDT by AJFavish

The media and many Republicans are telling us that only Arnold can beat Cruz and unless we vote for Arnold, Cruz will win. Even people who state publicly and privately that they think McClintock is the best person for the job. But this kind of talk is a self-fulfilling prophecy and will doom McClintock by keeping down in the polls because nobody is asking the right question needed to gauge the real support for McClintock. If the right question was asked, I think McClintock would do great in that poll and that will turn the tide of his candidacy.

Somebody has to do a major credible poll, and fast, that asks a question like the following:

Among the candidates running to replace Gray Davis as Governor, who do you think would be the best Governor, without regard to who you think will win and without regard to trying to defeat any particular candidate?

Regards,

Allan J. Favish
http://www.allanfavish.com


TOPICS: Government; US: California; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: mcclintock

1 posted on 08/31/2003 9:39:36 AM PDT by AJFavish
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To: AJFavish
The media and many Republicans are telling us that only Arnold can beat Cruz and unless we vote for Arnold, Cruz will win.

Not withstanding the rapidly increasing percentage of Hispanics within the California electorate, there is sufficient cultural bigotry within the state, aggravated by the illegal alien issue, that Bustamante has, at the very least, an uphill battle.

2 posted on 08/31/2003 9:47:48 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag
Large Breasts in all the polls gets just 35% of the vote. He should be over the top by now in a state where Democrats have 45% of the electorate.
3 posted on 08/31/2003 9:56:26 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: AJFavish
Who cares who they think would be best regardless of winning.
Reagan or Elvis would probably win this poll.

Who will you vote for to win is all that matters in this race.

SO9

4 posted on 08/31/2003 9:56:48 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: Amerigomag
Don't kid yourself. Liberals aren't bothered in the least by the illegal alien issue. Their "more the merrier" attitude is reinforced by the thought that an increase in the population of the collective can only help their party. If they can make these people citizens they'll surely one day vote democRAT.
5 posted on 08/31/2003 9:59:43 AM PDT by South40
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To: AJFavish
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6 posted on 08/31/2003 10:08:47 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: goldstategop
This is an unusual situation, though.

* Many people in the middle may blame the Democratic party for the Davis fiasco - and they'll be right.

* 35% of the vote might win this one, with 134 other candidates, including at least two others with over 10%.

* Nobody knows much about Bustamante, and the consensus based on what we do know appears to be that he's not terribly bright and certainly not up to fixing our problems.

D
7 posted on 08/31/2003 11:28:33 AM PDT by daviddennis
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To: South40
Liberals aren't bothered in the least by the illegal alien issue. Their "more the merrier" attitude is reinforced by the thought that an increase in the population of the collective can only help their party. If they can make these people citizens they'll surely one day vote democRAT.

If Davis and the Dems give the illegals drivers licenses isn't it just one short step from drivers license to registered voter? I think that is the plan.

8 posted on 08/31/2003 11:35:53 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: AJFavish
The questiuon you want to pose is of NO interest to pollers, and for good reason.

It is totally hypothetical and unrelated to actual voter behavior.

That's why it is of no interest to me either. Heck, without concern for reality, I think that Walter Williams would make a bang-up Governor.
9 posted on 08/31/2003 11:59:27 AM PDT by John Valentine (In Seoul, and keeping one eye on the hills to the North...)
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To: AJFavish
McClintock voters are important to help put the first question concerning the recall of Davis over the top, so he does not stay in office.
10 posted on 08/31/2003 12:40:07 PM PDT by RJayneJ (To see pictures of Jayne's quilt: http://bulldogbulletin.lhhosting.com/page50.htm)
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To: John Valentine
The questiuon you want to pose is of NO interest to pollers, and for good reason.

It is totally hypothetical and unrelated to actual voter behavior.

That's why it is of no interest to me either. Heck, without concern for reality, I think that Walter Williams would make a bang-up Governor.

Walter Williams is not "Among the candidates running to replace Gray Davis as Governor" so that would not be responsive to the question. The point of the question is to see if a plurality of the people polled would like to see McClintock as Governor. With the present polls, we don't know the answer to that question because people are basing their answers on who can beat somebody else. If McClintock has the strong support I suspect he has, then the results of this poll will make people realize that the person they most want as Governor can also win if they would just vote for him!

11 posted on 08/31/2003 12:43:49 PM PDT by AJFavish
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To: AJFavish
I remember very clearly that Prop. 187 was never, ever going to pass - even on election day.

And it passed - with a 60% majority.

12 posted on 08/31/2003 12:54:20 PM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
If Davis and the Dems give the illegals drivers licenses isn't it just one short step from drivers license to registered voter? I think that is the plan.

I guess I've never understood this issue. Clinton's motor-voter law required the DMV to provide voter registration application forms with drivers license application forms. You don't need the latter to apply to vote; you just have to provide name/birthdate/address and sign an oath that you're a citizen.

Obviously illegal aliens should be deported, not given drivers licenses that establish (illegal) residency and help them pretend to be legally here. But, how do the licenses help illegal aliens vote in CA, where pollworkers do not check voters' ID?

13 posted on 08/31/2003 12:57:19 PM PDT by heleny
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To: heleny
Perhaps the idea is that by authorizing drivers licenses for illegals that will encourage thousands of them to go to DMV for the licenses and while there they will be encouraged to fill out the voters registration cards. Most will have been prepped as to what to do. Then, bingo! A bonanza of new Democrats.
14 posted on 08/31/2003 3:00:13 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Perhaps the idea is that by authorizing drivers licenses for illegals that will encourage thousands of them to go to DMV for the licenses and while there they will be encouraged to fill out the voters registration cards. Most will have been prepped as to what to do. Then, bingo! A bonanza of new Democrats.

You've got the idea! - - - And, always remind them WHO gave them this privilege.

15 posted on 08/31/2003 10:00:22 PM PDT by Susannah (Over 200 people murdered in L. A.County-first 5 mos. of 2003 & NONE were fighting Iraq!!)
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To: AJFavish
I accept your point about Walter Williams, too bad he's not on the list.

But still, this kind of question is really not normally included in objective polling.

Now, in push polling, that is turned right round and this kind of question is de rigeur, as the intent of the poll is not to try to discover voter intent, but to influence voter thinking.

And that's what you are after, too. You want to give people some motive for pushing the McClintock candidacy. That may well be a delightful prospect for a McClintock supporter, and a strategic objective of the McClintock campaign, but it certainly is not an agenda item for a "objective" polling organization.
16 posted on 09/01/2003 10:29:31 PM PDT by John Valentine (In Seoul, and keeping one eye on the hills to the North...)
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To: AJFavish
Allen, with all due respect, I am not sure McClintock would be the best governor. He is / sounds like a great conservative, but my DH had some communications with him years ago and ended up with Tom falling from grace in his eyes. He may not be as much of an achiever as a talker. He also seems to have a little mean streak apparent in the campaign. It really gets him and us nowhere when he spends whole interviews bashing Arnold and not Cruz.

I think McClintock supporters just might be wearing rosy sunglasses, and the glint off of Arnold's past might be blinding everyone. The man has achieved everything he set out to achieve. He is not pretending to be a Republican; he really means it even if he is to the center side of the party. Life would be much easier for him if he were a Democrat, both personally and business-wise. He had no qualms about sticking to his party through THIN. I am going to give him my vote.

17 posted on 09/01/2003 10:40:16 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: AJFavish
Easy quiz.
Answer: McClintock
18 posted on 09/02/2003 10:52:07 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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