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Agents can't force illegal immigrants to pick up
The Sierra Vista Herald ^ | August 12, 2003 | Bill Hess

Posted on 08/12/2003 4:30:14 PM PDT by HiJinx


A Hereford resident on Monday shows the refuse left by a large number of illegal immigrants in the wash area between Ash Canyon and Turkey Track Road over the weekend. The U.S. Border Patrol says that it can't force illegal immigrants to pick up trash that they didn't leave.
Mark Levy ~ Herald/Review

HEREFORD -- The U.S. Border Patrol cannot force illegal immigrants to pick up trash if it cannot be proven they caused the debris left on private or public property, a spokesman for the agency's Tucson Sector said Monday.

A Hereford area resident is the latest to complain about the actions of illegal immigrants trashing private property in one of the Huachuca Mountain canyons where he lives.

Last week the federal agency picked up more than 50 people on private property near the local resident's land, but a large amount of trash, including backpacks, clothing and other items were left, said the resident, who did not want to be identified.

One item left behind, which fits a pattern when it comes to illegal immigrants, was an airline ticket.

One found at the Hereford scene was for a passenger named Juan Carlos Popoca. It was for a July 28 flight from Mexico City to Hermosillo, the capital city of the Mexican state of Sonora, on Mexicana Flight 448H that departed at 9:15 p.m. According to the document, the flight was paid for in cash.

Greg Maier, a spokesman with the Tucson Sector, said agents do have illegal immigrants take items with them, but often the material is not everything they bring across the border.

Too often the people stay at what is called "lay up spots," waiting for their ground transportation and it is at these sites where the illegal immigrants change their clothes and leave the majority of things behind, Maier said.

The illegal immigrants then go a short distance to meet the vehicles and jump aboard them, he said.

In some cases the vehicles "do not come to a full stop," Maier said.

When a group is spotted by the agents and apprehended, whatever items they have with them are put aboard Border Patrol vehicles, he said.

"We can't make them pick up someone else's trash," Maier said.

The object is to get the apprehended illegal immigrants moving quickly so it is not possible to have them held for a couple of hours, especially when it is dark, to pick up trash, Maier said.

As for whose responsibility it is to pick up trash on public and private property, the spokesman said the managers or owners of land are ultimately responsible.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: borderpatrol; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration; littering; trash
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Where have we heard all of this before? I have a co-worker and former FReeper who told us all about airline tickets. And if you want to see who's going to pick up the trash, check out this old FR Post.

1 posted on 08/12/2003 4:30:15 PM PDT by HiJinx
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To: gubamyster; madfly
ping
2 posted on 08/12/2003 4:32:28 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: HiJinx
having had my innings with illegals and their garbage... in Atlanta... I can only imagine my wrath if I lived on the border right about now.
3 posted on 08/12/2003 4:35:15 PM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; Carry_Okie; FITZ; Spiff; Tancredo Fan; ...
Bump-Ping!!!
The Border List TM

4 posted on 08/12/2003 4:35:17 PM PDT by HiJinx (The Right person, in the Right place, at the Right time...to do His work.)
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To: King Prout
It's frustrating to think that nobody in power cares. I wonder what would happen if this garbage was being dumped in Texas, South Dakota, or Tennessee.
5 posted on 08/12/2003 4:37:08 PM PDT by HiJinx (The Right person, in the Right place, at the Right time...to do His work.)
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To: HiJinx
maybe the citizen militias on the border ought to collect a lot of that rubbish, put it in a truck, haul it to DC, and dump it out on the Capitol Bldg's front steps.
7 posted on 08/12/2003 4:40:45 PM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: HiJinx
F' ing disgusting and typical. We are gutless when it comes to these parasitic border jumpers.
8 posted on 08/12/2003 4:40:48 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: King Prout
maybe the citizen militias on the border ought to collect a lot of that rubbish, put it in a truck, haul it to DC, and dump it out on the Capitol Bldg's front steps.

Either that, or bag the trash and catapult back into Mexico.

9 posted on 08/12/2003 4:48:32 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: King Prout
maybe the citizen militias on the border ought to collect a lot of that rubbish, put it in a truck, haul it to DC, and dump it out on the Capitol Bldg's front steps.

Or at the gates of a certain ranch in Crawford, Texas - or at the Arizona residences of McCain, Kolbe, and Flake. I'll volunteer to make the Kolbe trash haul.

10 posted on 08/12/2003 4:57:14 PM PDT by Spiff (Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: DumpsterDiver
I really LIKE that idea. Somewhere there has to be someone who has a spare catapult or a trebuchet just sitting around. Here's what we do, we get a bunch of people to get together with a whole lot of garbage bags, then we go around and collect up a whole bunch of trash, then we go right up to the Mexican border and send it all back.

Wonderful idea. I love it.
11 posted on 08/12/2003 5:26:36 PM PDT by Elliott Jackalope (this tagline is currently under construction....)
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To: Elliott Gigantalope
We could add rotten maggot-infested meat in with the trash and create Giant Stink Bombs.

I also liked Spiff's idea of hauling the trash over to the homes of certain politicians.

12 posted on 08/12/2003 5:45:42 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Elliott Gigantalope; HiJinx; Spiff
HiJinx you beat me to the posting!!! Again!!!!

Somewhere there has to be someone who has a spare catapult or a trebuchet just sitting around. Here's what we do, we get a bunch of people to get together with a whole lot of garbage bags, then we go around and collect up a whole bunch of trash, then we go right up to the Mexican border and send it all back.

Why not make it a Science project for the local H.S.'s, Community College, and the Engineering students at U of A and ASU?

It might be such a hit that it would take the place of ROBOT-WARS on cable TV.

13 posted on 08/12/2003 5:54:41 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: King Prout
maybe the citizen militias on the border ought to collect a lot of that rubbish, put it in a truck, haul it to DC, and dump it out on the Capitol Bldg's front steps.

Yeah, and take along the bill of about 100 billion that illegals have cost Americans.

14 posted on 08/12/2003 5:59:27 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: HiJinx
It's frustrating to think that nobody in power cares. I wonder what would happen if this garbage was being dumped in Texas,

You think the Rio Grande Valley is not full of this crap???

My wife and I lived in Harlingen for three years. She told me one morning that she was moving back to Houston. I asked her what I had done and she responded, "nothing". I just can't live here anymore.

We both quit our jobs and moved to Houston. I would not go back there for less than 200k per year, and then it would just be to build a nest-egg and leave again.

Most parking lots had at least one dirty diaper every 100 ft/2.

Disgusting.

15 posted on 08/12/2003 6:10:38 PM PDT by Eaker (This is OUR country; let's take it back!!!!!)
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To: Cedar of Lebanon

SSS? What does that mean?

16 posted on 08/12/2003 6:10:57 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
er... Shoot Shovel Shut up?
17 posted on 08/12/2003 6:14:50 PM PDT by sarasmom (Punish France, Ignore Germany, Forgive Russia. Canada-well they ARE mostly French)
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To: Spiff
Or at the gates of a certain ranch in Crawford, Texas

I like this idea the best. Since GWB is shown burning brush on the ranch during his August vacations, he could just throw the illegals trash right in with it.

20 posted on 08/12/2003 6:47:07 PM PDT by Missouri
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