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Protesting Homeowners: 'Taxed To Death'
NBC5 Chicago ^ | 8/11/03 | N/A

Posted on 08/11/2003 2:37:08 PM PDT by JustPiper

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To: pierrem15
As per usual the the Cook County Liberals fail to confront the fact the out of control spending is what is bankrupting Cook County. Of course Cook County politicians would like to off load their expenses on the rest of the State; in that way they could export their financial profligacy without reforming thier spending habits.

When a spendthrift goes over his credit limit the indicated procedure is to cut up the credit card and force the profligate on a budget.
21 posted on 08/11/2003 5:32:20 PM PDT by ggekko
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To: JustPiper
$80K tax on a $297K property? That's 27%; something wrong here.
22 posted on 08/11/2003 6:06:32 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: ggekko; TheRightGuy; BillyBoy; cfrels; unspun; Chi-townChief
Cook County Liberals fail to confront the fact the out of control spending is what is bankrupting Cook County.

Why are Treasurer Topinka and the rest of us letting Blago and Quinn steal our lines (as Tom said to Arnold)?

There is hope. Jack Ryan, Cox, Oberweiss and Raushenberger seem ready to articulate reality.

Forget Andy McKenna. I heard him accept the Democrats' lies and try to argue a pro-Bush position from them. Eg. Congress MUST solve the prescription drug crisis, the crisis of people without medical insurance (me) blah, blah, blah.

23 posted on 08/11/2003 6:11:17 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: JustPiper; Taxman
If there were an 8th Deadly Sin, it'd be taxes.

This story here is an excellent example of how the consequences of taxation hurt the individual & community.

24 posted on 08/11/2003 6:38:54 PM PDT by jla
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To: facedown
ping
25 posted on 08/11/2003 7:09:11 PM PDT by sistergoldenhair (Don't be a sheep. People hate sheep. They eat sheep.)
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To: sistergoldenhair
I would bet the realtors LOVE this taxing; because it causes MORE property turnovers, on which they will earn? big commissions.

Twenty years ago I enrolled in a real estate course, and discovered the beloved concept "highest and best use", by which the realtors mean the use of the property which would generate the most income or highest sales price ! It has NOTHING to do with whether the existing owners wish that "use" or not; in fact, public policy, TAXES and zoning, are seen as legitimate tools by realtors for gov't to force unwilling sellers to give up their family farm, ancestral home, or affordable retirement cottage.

It is all about GREED, and I believe the most dangerous person in gov't is a realtor. We would not NEED realtors to sort through all the regulations and restrictions if they had not been instrumental in pushing those rules in the first place.

26 posted on 08/11/2003 7:25:12 PM PDT by hoosierham
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To: JustPiper
Would you please provide a link to the actual web page for the story? The link you provided only goes to a single image that is used to track web page accesses.
27 posted on 08/11/2003 8:25:25 PM PDT by jimkress (Go away Pat Go away!)
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To: spintreebob
"There is hope. Jack Ryan, Cox, Oberweiss and Raushenberger seem ready to articulate reality."

yeah, I went to a Raushenburger political gathering. I must have had $400 of the best stone crab claws I ever had. He can spend with the best of them.

28 posted on 08/11/2003 9:42:49 PM PDT by bulldogs
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To: ggekko
their expenses on the rest of the State

The laughable part is that the State is broke and probably derives a goodly portion of its existing revenues from Cook County (income tax & higher sales taxes).

So we (the chumps) would continue to get whacked just as hard, but John "Hi, I'm Daley's House N-----" Stroger would be able to blame the State pols.

It's like Haiti, but with running water.

29 posted on 08/11/2003 9:58:47 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: FITZ
Why don't you cut the crap about blaming EVERYTHING on immigrants. Got a headache ? Kick two immigrants out of the country and call me in the morning. This is a property tax thread, not an immigrant thread.
30 posted on 08/11/2003 10:07:13 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: JustPiper
When asked if homeowners should be pleased by increases in the value of their properties because they could sell for large profits, Quinn replied that people would have to leave the community, damaging its social fabric.

Is it me, or is this a really strange sentence meant to further confuse the ignorant?

31 posted on 08/11/2003 10:30:13 PM PDT by Concentrate (Unintended consequences are, well, unintended.)
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To: JustPiper
"It's an idea that goes back to biblical times," the lieutenant governor said. "Taxes ought to be based on ability to pay."

It goes right back to Karl Marx.

32 posted on 08/11/2003 10:32:42 PM PDT by Concentrate (Unintended consequences are, well, unintended.)
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To: staytrue
FITZ has a good point here. All services have to be paid for by someone. And since property owners must pay for public schools in which illegal and some legal immigrants freeload, surely you can see the connection.
33 posted on 08/11/2003 10:38:51 PM PDT by Concentrate (Unintended consequences are, well, unintended.)
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To: Old Professer
I think they mean per unit $70,000 assessment per unit sounds about right and they more than quadrupled that.
34 posted on 08/11/2003 10:42:13 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: JustPiper
"The job of the assessor is to reflect what is going on in the market," Kownacki said. "The problem is, the system is broken. There is a very big over-reliance on property taxes in Cook County."

She said most property-tax dollars go to schools, and she believed state sales and income taxes need to play a larger role in funding education.

No. The school system is over burdened with multiple layers of management working overtime to justify their high salaries and pointless jobs.

If the red tape and wasteful layers of management in the schools systems can be eliminated then the property tax system could be made fair and taxes reduced.

First order of business fix the school system in this country by getting the Feds out of the schools, return control back to the States.

Second break the Teacher’s Unions, return the control of the local schools back to the people.

Do these two things and high property taxes will disappear unless that is what the people want.

35 posted on 08/11/2003 10:52:59 PM PDT by Pontiac
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To: Concentrate
We are talking taxes, not spending. Plus, Fitz is on every thread bashing immigrants. By his logic, somehow you could blame the columbia explosion on immigrants. He would say, "if we did not spend so much money on immigrants, we could have spent more on the shuttle, ergo immigration caused the columbia to blow up". If a wife hacks up her kids, his explanation is, "overpopulation by immigrants caused her to flip out". His solution for every problem in america is to kick two immigrants out and call me in the morning.
36 posted on 08/11/2003 11:00:15 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: JustPiper
From California......FIGHT THEM, people....fight them hard.

If we can do it, you can too. Just band together. You have our support!!!
37 posted on 08/11/2003 11:02:51 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE)
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To: Concentrate
When asked if homeowners should be pleased by increases in the value of their properties because they could sell for large profits, Quinn replied that people would have to leave the community, damaging its social fabric.

"We don't want people to move out of the neighborhood," Quinn said. "They have a stake in the neighborhood and its institutions."

Is it me, or is this a really strange sentence meant to further confuse the ignorant?

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Well, it appears to mean that they are saying your house is worth more, and that you should be abe to sell it for more, but that they don't actually want you to do that.

This Quinn gives some silly response about people shouldn't leave because it would damage the community, but of course it really means they do not want the current property owners to sell out.

38 posted on 08/11/2003 11:10:58 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: pierrem15
Cook County taxes us on everything!
39 posted on 08/12/2003 12:12:56 AM PDT by JustPiper (Moving Sale: U.N. Going to Toronto!)
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To: sirchtruth
It sounds like the need for our senior citizens renting buses for a group to go to canada just for cheaper prescriptions, how sad! We need a tax revolt in this country. Yes we ejoy Freedoms, but at the cost of working 3-4 months a year FOR FREE!!!
40 posted on 08/12/2003 12:15:37 AM PDT by JustPiper (Recall Blago! Recall Blago!!! Recall Blago!!! Protest Taxes!!!)
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