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Woman Reportedly Slits Throat of Infant Daughter
Pioneer Press ^ | Aug. 04, 2003 | LISA DONOVAN

Posted on 08/04/2003 7:48:51 PM PDT by wallcrawlr

35-year-old woman reportedly slit the throat of her 6-month-old daughter in St. Paul this morning, killing the baby, police said. Mine An Ener, who had apparently been suffering from depression, confessed to the slaying inside a home in the Desnoyer Park neighborhood on St. Paul’s western edge, police said.

About 9 a.m., Ener reportedly finished feeding the infant in a relative’s house in the 500 block of Desnoyer Avenue. She carried the baby into the bathroom and, moments later, walked out and told a relative in the house: "I think I killed the baby," said St. Paul police Sgt. Bruce Wynkoop.

The relative called 911 immediately. As medics tried to assist the baby, police took Ener into custody.

The slaying occurred at the home of a relative where Ener and her daughter, who reside in Pennsylvania, had been visiting for an undetermined amount of time, police said.


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To: Doctor Stochastic
Robots cannot care. They can only exhibit tropisms.
81 posted on 08/05/2003 10:22:14 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: SarahW
Assuming that you are correct and this is post-partum depression, does the "pathologic chemical imbalance" that we assume she had also keep her from recognizing that something was wrong with her? Did it keep her from seeking help? I know several women who became depressed (to varying degrees and due to various causes) and then sought help. This woman has no excuse. She chose to kill.
82 posted on 08/05/2003 10:54:29 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: pram
"Back to the witch burnings, then. "

Straw man argument, based on Social Darwinism.

Sheesh! The comment was in reference to the 20th century discovery that diminished mental capacity is now a legal factor in culpability. In days of old, such mental problems were attributed to witchcraft, and they were burned forthwith.

83 posted on 08/05/2003 10:57:01 AM PDT by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
Back to the witch burnings, then.

I'm in awe of your logical abilities.

84 posted on 08/05/2003 11:23:31 AM PDT by A.J.Armitage
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To: jlogajan
Sheesh! The comment was in reference to the 20th century discovery that diminished mental capacity is now a legal factor in culpability. In days of old, such mental problems were attributed to witchcraft, and they were burned forthwith.

Those Victorian witch-burnings were a bitch, eh?

85 posted on 08/05/2003 11:26:05 AM PDT by A.J.Armitage
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To: Clara Lou
Yes is the short answer, it's entirely possible she had no insight into her distorted thinking.
86 posted on 08/05/2003 11:27:30 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: hopespringseternal
society doesn't hate children. People who would rather focus on stringing up a mentally ill murderer than preventing the harm in the first place hate children.
87 posted on 08/05/2003 11:28:46 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: hopespringseternal
And quit playing word games. Post-partum depression can make a mother a danger to herself or others...but for the brain disorder, no murder would have occurred.
88 posted on 08/05/2003 11:30:26 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: hopespringseternal
Pregnancy and childbirth can trigger mental illness. Fact.
It can be treated. FACT. Harm can be prevented. FACT.

You can intervene in what you won't acknowlege.
89 posted on 08/05/2003 11:32:32 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: SarahW
Not all depressed people, treated or not, have a tendency to kill.

If there is a tendency present, medication doesn't fix that.
90 posted on 08/05/2003 11:32:39 AM PDT by Calpernia ('Typos Amnesty Day')
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To: SarahW
edit - you can't intervene in what you won't acknowlege.

91 posted on 08/05/2003 11:33:39 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: Calpernia
What does that have to do with anything? The fact is, mental illness resulting from childbirth sometimes does.
It CAN lead to harm to self or others.

The fact that some women never have even "baby blues", let alone a full blown psychosis triggered by parturition, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It can happen to any woman.
92 posted on 08/05/2003 11:36:03 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: SarahW
Fact. Mental illness does not = harm.

The person must have the predisposition to harm in order to have these characteristics highlighted by a depression/illness/psychosis.
93 posted on 08/05/2003 11:38:00 AM PDT by Calpernia ('Typos Amnesty Day')
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To: Calpernia
Medication fixes the disordered thinking. It most certainly can prevent the sequelae of the disordered thinking. Recognition of the illness can also be used to step in with supervision and support that will prevent harm coming to the mother or baby as a result of the illness.
94 posted on 08/05/2003 11:39:34 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: Calpernia
Even granting your assertion, which I don't, it remains true that but for the illness, the murder would not have occurred.
95 posted on 08/05/2003 11:40:47 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: SarahW
>>>Medication fixes the disordered thinking. It most certainly can prevent the sequelae of the disordered thinking.

Prevent the sequelae of disordered thinking? What?

If a person is depressed or has an illness, it does not mean they will become a harm to others. Harm is NOT a sympton of mental illness or depression.

If a person has a predisposition to be a harm, then an illness or depression can enhance this.

This is usually when a person is committed. Until the tendency to harm has passed.
96 posted on 08/05/2003 11:45:16 AM PDT by Calpernia ('Typos Amnesty Day')
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To: hopespringseternal
Psychosis and depression are two entirely separate conditions. This what exhaustively dealt with during the aftermath of Adrea Yate's murders, and post-partum depression is simply not violent. Various dishonest feminists just make that claim.

From the DSM IV: Mood congruent delusions or hallucinations may accompany severe Major Depressive Disorder.

97 posted on 08/05/2003 11:57:23 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: SarahW
edit - you can't intervene in what you won't acknowlege.

You don't need to be able to ride a bull to recognize a big, steaming pile of BS.

98 posted on 08/05/2003 11:59:51 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: ought-six
There have also been alot of men killing their children. Men leaving their children in cars to die. Alleged murderers like Scott Peterson, the man who just recently took his two adolescent children and disappeared with them, authorities are still looking for the two children, the man who shot up his entire family (allegedly).
99 posted on 08/05/2003 12:02:14 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: SarahW
but for the brain disorder, no murder would have occurred.

That is more assumption than fact. In every case, there have been serious moral flaws in addition to the disorder. Depression and homicidal mania just aren't the same thing.

100 posted on 08/05/2003 12:04:13 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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