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Canada-Police Out Of Control
http://www.helpjonathan.com/ ^ | July 31 2003 | underdog

Posted on 08/01/2003 5:20:03 AM PDT by underdog

POLICE OUT OF CONTROL

The following atrocity took place in the small village of Baxter, approximately 8 miles south west of Barrie. If you or a family member has ever fired a rifle for target practice this could have been you or someone you know...

This is a short completely factual account of the events that took place as released by the victim's lawyer Mr. Ed Burlew LLB. READ IT CAREFULLY.

THIS COULD HAVE BEEN ME!!

Account as Released: On Tuesday May 27, 2003 the victim, 29 year old Jonathan Logan, who has never so much as had a speeding ticket, was lawfully hunting groundhogs on a farm field approximately 300 yards from Baxter Public School between the hours of 5:20 p.m. and 6:00 p.m. keeping in mind that students at the school had been released more then an hour and he had the permission of the land owner to be hunting within the confines of that property.

THE POLICE INVESTIGATED AND CONFIRMED THE FOLLOWING:

Jonathan Logan was indeed hunting ground hogs on a farmer's field approximately 300 yards from the school from 5:20 pm to 6:00 pm after school with permission of the farmer where the farmer had asked him to reduce the groundhog population. He was using a registered non-restricted rifle designed for varmint hunting. He was using the said rifle in a safe manner and Mr. Logan is a holder of a valid Ontario Hunting license.

Mr. Logan was not on school property at any time and did not point the rifle at the school, any person or farm animal at any time. The rifle was transported in a safe manner at all times. Mr. Logan stopped hunting when he noticed that children were back at the school playing soccer and it was dinnertime! The police met him at his home and arrested him for charges that were later determined by the police to be groundless and are not being pursued. Note that he met the police as he pulled into his driveway and was arrested as he exited the vehicle having not entered his home. His rifle was in his vehicle, cased and unloaded and being transported safely in his vehicle when he stopped to meet the police. While under arrest for non-existent offenses, thus making the arrest unlawful, he was placed on the ground, had a .223 caliber Ruger Mini 14 pointed at his head by a police officer and was hand-cuffed in a painful method.

Then he was stood up and taken to the trunk area of the police vehicle and strip searched in full public view. His pants were left dangling just above the knees for between 10 to 20 minutes as neighbors and traffic passed by. While under this unlawful arrest the police refused to let him or any other person into his home. The police insisted he sign consent to a search of his home without a warrant. This is significant because his 3-year-old child Joshua is a heart transplant recipient and was due for his hourly feeding and medication, which was kept in the house. The police would not let Mrs. Logan, Jonathan or Jonathan's father or any other person into the house to get the food or medication, without the police being given consent to search. The police had been shown the stomach tube for the 3-year-old Joshua's hourly feeding and were also told by Mrs. Logan and Jonathan Logan that all of the firearms in the home were safely stored. The police at that time had no reasonable or probable grounds to believe there was any illegal items in the home or that there was any evidence of an offence in the home. They know Jonathan Logan had broken no law. Jonathan had proof in his wallet that all his firearms were registered. Under the physical duress of having at least a dozen police officers armed with non-restricted, restricted and prohibited firearms and with many shotguns and rifles being pointed by police at all of the Logan's was coerced by the police into signing a consent to search which he was not allowed to read.

The police then entered the house. Mr. Logan firmly believes his rights under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms to be free from unreasonable search and seizure was breached and that the alleged unsafe storage of one unloaded .22 rifle and .22 caliber ammunitions is based on the unlawful police actions. He was taken to the police station and released on a simple recognizance after 6 hours.

Some of the more disgusting and inhuman things that Jonathan was subjected to such as the internal search with rubber gloves and flashlight and the cruel treatment and lewd suggestions made to him when he pleaded with the officers to at least pull up his pants so he was no longer exposed to the members of the public and his young children, had not been included in the original press release but beg to be told. Was this the actions of caring police officers trained and sworn to protect our individual rights or a group of thugs out of control? Ask yourself, "What if it had been me or my Son or Daughter?"

Due to his son's illness and the time spent at hospital, Jonathan lost his job recently, now he must give police 24 hours notice before starting any new job. Oddly enough once notice is given the potential employers have been visited before he starts work and all perspective jobs fall through!!!

We are all sports men and women and Jonathan is one of our own and he needs our help, both financially and with moral support, to get him through this crisis in his families life. I would hope that the sporting community and all people who want justice served, will help in any way they can, no matter how little, we have strength in numbers. Jonathan is not a terrorist but only a young man involved in a legal activity that we all love. He did not deserve this treatment.

Please help Jonathan and his family find justice... Donations may be dropped of at the Wolf's Den Sporting Supplies Ltd. located at 7560 Con 8, RR #1, Utopia, Ontario L0M 1T0. Our phone number is (705) 424-4867. Receipts will be issued.

Please show your support and express your concerns for Jonathan and his family c/o Wolf's Den Sporting Supplies (at the above address).

Lets wake the sleeping GIANT. Let us show everyone how we feel and how we can stand together for one of our own. Let us show that we are law-abiding citizens of this country and will not allow anyone to treat us with anything but respect, no matter whom they are. Be sure that you send a message, write your local newspapers, radio stations, MP'S, MPP'S, telling them we will not stand for this. Don't wait for someone else to do it, stand up and be counted; let us all take a stand. We must correct this travesty of justice now or the next time it could be one of us.

Yours in Conservation and Justice,

Staff of Wolf's Den Sporting Supplies Ltd.,

Carl, Gary, Tammy and Lynn


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: guns; police; policestate
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Although owning guns is still "legal" in Canada, this is how they treat gun owners. This kind of garbage is going on all over the place. They are picking off gun owners one by one, laying ridiculous charges, doing warrantless search and seizures, busting down doors (sometimes the wrong house) and basically treating law abiding citizens like they are dangerous criminals. If this nonsense doesn't stop innocent people are going to get shot (by the police of course) at which time I'm sure they'll get off scott free. This type of behaviour by our police will eventually create a Waco. What recourse do our law abiding gun owners have?
1 posted on 08/01/2003 5:20:04 AM PDT by underdog
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To: underdog
The leftists and jihadists have turned a formerly pleasant country into Al Qanada. This needs to be reversed before it hits the point of no return.
2 posted on 08/01/2003 5:25:51 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: underdog
Was this the local police or the OPP? THe reason I'm asking is becasue I know that the OPP rarely station oofficers local to their area. They are typically Toronto transplants that have the gun-hating ultra-liberal orthodoxy drilled into them before they even leave high school.
3 posted on 08/01/2003 5:44:12 AM PDT by doc30
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To: underdog
When people around here say that police would NEVER enforce draconian anti-gun laws, I think that they are whistling in the wind. Most police will do what they are told -- just like these were.
4 posted on 08/01/2003 5:47:02 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: underdog
When guns are banned only criminals and the govt are left to savage honest people.
TAke away our guns at your own peril.
5 posted on 08/01/2003 5:50:28 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: jim_trent
You mean "they were just following orders"? :-(
6 posted on 08/01/2003 5:52:41 AM PDT by underdog
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To: underdog
Was this the actions of caring police officers trained and sworn to protect our individual rights or a group of thugs out of control? Ask yourself, "What if it had been me or my Son or Daughter?"

They'd have to hire some new police officers.

7 posted on 08/01/2003 5:53:16 AM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Joe Boucher
When guns are banned only criminals and the govt are left to savage honest people. TAke away our guns at your own peril.

The Norinco 7.62 steel cored rounds being sold at gun shows a few years ago are no respecters of Kevlar fabric.

A word to the wise on both sides.

8 posted on 08/01/2003 5:55:36 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Contents may have settled during shipping, but this tagline contains the stated product weight.)
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To: underdog
What, exactly, was this person charged with? The article isn't really clear.
9 posted on 08/01/2003 6:00:30 AM PDT by TomB
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To: underdog
Sorry, I just don't believe this is completely true.
10 posted on 08/01/2003 6:00:32 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA
Sorry, I just don't believe this is completely true.

Yea, if he has to give police 24 hours notice before starting a job, he must have been charged with something. But the article doesn't say.

It must have something to do with hunting and the school.

11 posted on 08/01/2003 6:06:13 AM PDT by TomB
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To: underdog
There are more gun owners than policemen in Canada. And there is NO ONE more interested in protecting your rights than you.
12 posted on 08/01/2003 6:10:54 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: DManA
Sorry, I just don't believe this is completely true..

I can imagine someone getting questioned for carrying a scoped rifle 300yds from a school, even during hunting season in Texas.

I find the whole "strip search in the driveway" a little odd; what purpose does this serve? Or are we to believe this was department procedure?

And of course the heart patient infant stretches credibility as well.

No doubt, Canadian gun owners have problems. I'm surprised Canadians are even allowed to hunt with firearms, registered or not.

13 posted on 08/01/2003 6:17:55 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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I can imagine someone getting questioned for carrying a scoped rifle 300yds from a school, even during hunting season in Texas.

You are correct. Below is an article with more information. Someone reported a man in camo with a rifle near the soccer game. But this guy got hosed royally. Welcome to the People's Republic of Canada.

'A terrifying and senseless ordeal'

14 posted on 08/01/2003 6:22:50 AM PDT by TomB
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To: xsrdx
A local cop in my town was quietly given the word to move on after pulling down the pants of a kid stopped on at the roadside on suspicion of pot posession.

Power-tripping is a common disease. Seems to be spread by contact with blue polyester.
15 posted on 08/01/2003 6:23:53 AM PDT by eno_
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To: underdog
fascism
16 posted on 08/01/2003 6:29:24 AM PDT by thinking
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To: underdog
Immigrate.
17 posted on 08/01/2003 6:34:31 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.)
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To: TomB
He was eventually charged with improper storage of a firearm that they came across in his home AFTER he signed an agreement to allow them to search his home without warrant. The firearm in question had NOTHING to do with this incident.
18 posted on 08/01/2003 6:34:46 AM PDT by underdog
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To: underdog
While under arrest for non-existent offenses, thus making the arrest unlawful, he was placed on the ground, had a .223 caliber Ruger Mini 14 pointed at his head by a police officer and was hand-cuffed in a painful method.

What the hell would any real police officer be doing with a mini-14? That's a rifle more suited for varmint hunting than law enforcement. If they really wanted to use that caliber, why not an AR-15?
19 posted on 08/01/2003 6:34:56 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: underdog
"You mean "they were just following orders"? :-("

Yeah, right.....What orders?
20 posted on 08/01/2003 6:36:54 AM PDT by freekitty
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