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‘THE LAST ACCEPTABLE PREJUDICE’
Jewish World Review ^
| July 28, 2003 / 28 Tamuz, 5763
| Suzanne Fields
Posted on 07/28/2003 8:19:02 AM PDT by yonif
Edited on 07/28/2003 2:47:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator.
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The "new" anti-Semitism is as virulent as ever, but it's often easy for Americans Christian and Jew alike not to notice.
Christians and Jews get along here. Evangelical Christians have become some of the best friends Jews have, and, for their part, most Jews are not as suspicious of Evangelical motives as they once were. Since the anti-Semites abroad regard America as the great Satan and Israel the little Satan, we all feel equal-opportunity hate.
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posted on
07/28/2003 8:19:03 AM PDT
by
yonif
To: SJackson; Yehuda; Nachum; adam_az; LarryM; American in Israel; ReligionofMassDestruction; ...
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posted on
07/28/2003 8:19:28 AM PDT
by
yonif
To: yonif
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posted on
07/28/2003 8:27:22 AM PDT
by
Alouette
(Every politician should live next door to a pimp, so he can have someone to look up to.)
To: yonif
Sadly, I do see a rise in anti-Semitism.
Just another sign...
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posted on
07/28/2003 8:34:29 AM PDT
by
MikeWUSAF
(“If I do my full duty, the rest will take care of itself.” - General George S. Patton)
To: yonif
Noam Chomsky, whose anti-Israel and anti-American books are best sellers on campus, catalogs the imperfections of American and Israeli democracies but forgives the total lack of democracy in Islamic countries. He forgives them because deep down he doesn't expect anything from them. Although you'll never get leftists (like Chomsky) to admit it, this is one of the main reasons they're harsh on America and Israel and let atrocities in third-world nations slide --- they're racist to the core.
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posted on
07/28/2003 8:39:22 AM PDT
by
Mr. Mojo
To: yonif
I'm writing this as I feel this post will be read be a lot of Jewish people or at least people that know a lot about them.
I dont know a lot of Jews but the handful that I do know are all Liberal Democrats. What is it that pulls them over to that side? The Christians , like myself, that love and care for them are almost always Conservative Republicans. Am I wrong in this? Maybe I just dont know enough Jewish people to get the whole picture. Our God is One.
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posted on
07/28/2003 8:39:49 AM PDT
by
fish hawk
To: fish hawk
Jewish Republican. . .or Independant as the case may be . . .but definately not *liberal*
To: yonif
I agree with practically everything in the article except the title... THE LAST ACCEPTABLE PREJUDICE. The Serbs of eastern europe have suffered grievously at the hands of duplicitous west, the vatican and their islamic terrorist "tools". Furthermore, Israel and the American jews, almost without exception, supported the clinton/NATO anti-Serb "pogroms" of the 90's as "humantarian" intervention. They seem to forget their own history when it comes supporting "politically correct" notions like annihilating the Orthodox Christian population of eastern europe. The universal prejudice practiced against the historical peoples of the Balkans ranks with anything the jews have experienced.
To: yonif
The rest of the article. . .
As a feminist, she's particularly outraged that many feminists have muted their criticism of Islamist misogyny, or how others are oblivious to their own self-interests. What could be more ludicrous, she asks, than to see grown men marching against Zionism behind a banner proclaiming "Queers for Palestine." Queer, indeed. If these men lived in an Islamic culture they would be harassed or worse. Much worse.
Some of the enemies she identifies are familiar. Noam Chomsky, whose anti-Israel and anti-American books are best sellers on campus, catalogs the imperfections of American and Israeli democracies but forgives the total lack of democracy in Islamic countries. Edward Said, the "prestigious" professor of literature at Columbia University, compares the Palestinians under Israeli rule to the plight of the European Jews under the Third Reich.
What has emerged in the past decade is how the new anti-Semitism has become politically and psychologically respectable among western intellectual elites: "The American and European Left have made a marriage in hell with their Islamic terrorist counterparts."
The new anti-Semitism drips into the mainstream with surprising ease. Since she went to print, a popular columnist in The Observer, one of the most popular of Britain's liberal papers, piously announced that he would no longer even read letters to the editor about anti-Semitism if they were signed with Jewish names.
The Chicago Tribune, with several newspapers following its lead, only recently ran a particularly nasty political cartoon depicting Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon with a stereotypical hooked nose and the Jewish star sewn on his jacket, staring down with pleasure as President Bush satisfies his greed by paving "the roadmap to peace" with dollar bills. (The Tribune apologized for failing to recognize the anti-Semitic slurs.)
The Belgian affiliate of Oxfam International, organized to fight poverty, posted a cartoon on its Web site depicting a slice of orange dripping with blood-red juice: "Israeli fruit tastes bitter. Say no to the occupation of Palestine. Don't buy any fruit from Israel." The Simon Wiesenthal Center, a Jewish human rights organization," protested on its Web site with a reproduction of a Nazi poster from April 1933: "Germans! Protect yourselves! Don't buy from Jews!"
The new anti-Semitism passes unnoticed among those who should know better. Writes Phyllis Chesler: "In a politically correct, multicultural world, anti-Semitism is the last acceptable prejudice."
Even in America, the land of the free and the home of the bravest.
Along with prejudice against Christianity, firearms, constitutionalists, marriage, white men, husbands of all colors and conservatism.
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posted on
07/28/2003 9:01:35 AM PDT
by
William Terrell
(People can exist without government but government can't exist without people)
To: yonif
INTSUM
I have just as hard a time believing this as I do the constant wailings of the black leadership. When the president of NBC is Jewish it is hard to argue that America hates Jews. I like Jews, and I think they're talented, hard-working, focused people. But oppressed? Not in America. The rest of the world, maybe, but don't sit there and blame the United States, which is the most Jew-friendly state on the face of the earth save for Israel.
In reality, the last acceptable prejudice is against Christians who actually believe and act like Christians.
To: yonif
Labeling dissent as racism (or
treason) is dangerous. How does one criticize Israeli politics or policy without being dismissed and reviled as anti-Semitic?
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posted on
07/28/2003 10:29:38 AM PDT
by
Maurkov
To: Maurkov
1. Base the criticism on actions rather than the existancce of Israel.
2. Do not ignore the terrorist actions of the Arabs.
3. Don't hark to conspiracies or use claims of dual loyalty.
Otherwise, you can say almost anything.
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posted on
07/28/2003 11:14:32 AM PDT
by
rmlew
("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
To: kimosabe31
Furthermore, Israel and the American jews, almost without exception, supported the clinton/NATO anti-Serb "pogroms" of the 90's as "humantarian" interventionThe Israeli government never expressed an official position with respect to NATO's war against Serbia. Now, you can argue that they should have come out in support of the Serbs, but your claim is unsupported by the record.
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posted on
07/28/2003 11:18:17 AM PDT
by
tictoc
To: yonif
I'm getting concerned about the rapidly increasing amount of racism/religionism present in the Jewish community against non jews. Its a problem that is not being addressed in the media or on this forum.
To: Abe Froman
>I like Jews, and I think they're talented, hard-working, >focused people.
This is an odd statement.
It is somehow considered less bigoted to stereoptype people in the positive than to stereotype them in the negative?
Wouldn't you like or dislike individuals irrespective of their race or religion?
To: Abe Froman
To follow up, may I ask which group(s) you dislike?
To: yonif
I'm beginning to detect a pattern here....
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:03:03 PM PDT
by
Cyber Liberty
(© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
To: Stu Cohen
Dang....recalibrate your hypersensitivity there.
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:03:54 PM PDT
by
Cyber Liberty
(© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
To: Cyber Liberty
>Dang....recalibrate your hypersensitivity there.
Elaborate?
To: StolarStorm; SJackson; Yehuda; Nachum; adam_az; LarryM; American in Israel; ...
I'm getting concerned about the rapidly increasing amount of racism/religionism present in the Jewish community against non jews. Its a problem that is not being addressed in the media or on this forum. Can you provide some examples?
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:05:31 PM PDT
by
yonif
("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
To: William Terrell
"Along with prejudice against Christianity, firearms, constitutionalists, marriage, white men, husbands of all colors and conservatism."
I second that! No doubt about it.
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:06:04 PM PDT
by
PigRigger
(Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
To: Stu Cohen
Sure. I see you badgering another poster in a hypersensitive way -- picking at what was said -- because someone's feelings may be hurt....
If you need further elaboration, you are beyond any help I could offer.
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:06:44 PM PDT
by
Cyber Liberty
(© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
To: Mr. Mojo
"the soft racism of low expectations"
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:09:04 PM PDT
by
adam_az
(This space for rent.)
To: Cyber Liberty
Sure. I see you badgering another poster in a hypersensitive way -- picking at what was said -- because someone's feelings may be hurt.... My feelings were in no way hurt.
I asked some followup questions to a post that struck me as odd. This seems a logical thing to do on a Free Republic Message Board. No?
If you need further elaboration, you are beyond any help could offer.
Does this reflect an excessive need for help on my part, or a deficient ability to provide it on your part?
To: yonif
Sure. This article for one. For others, just read the Pollard threads.
To: StolarStorm; yonif
Will you quantify the 'rapidly' in "rapidly increasing?"
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:18:01 PM PDT
by
Binyamin
To: StolarStorm
I'm getting concerned about the rapidly increasing amount of racism/religionism present in the Jewish community against non jews. Its a problem that is not being addressed in the media or on this forum. There have been about a milion threads here about Mel Gibson's new movie. So what else is it that you feel is not being addressed?
Want to give some other examples of "racism/religionism present in the Jewish Community" that is being ignored in the media and on Free Republic? Are they beating up Christians in the streets? Vandalizing churches? Kidnapping little Christian toddlers in order to drain out their blood for the Passover matzah?
Hint: the excrementitious droolings of the ADL, AJC, RAC, PFAW and other ultra-liberal organization DO NOT REPRESENT THE ENTIRE JEWISH COMMUNITY.
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:19:09 PM PDT
by
Alouette
(Every politician should live next door to a pimp, so he can have someone to look up to.)
To: kimosabe31
Actually Israel was one of the few nations to stay neutral, despite US pressure.
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:22:18 PM PDT
by
SJackson
To: StolarStorm
The main points I saw her making:
Christians and Jews get along here. Evangelical Christians have become some of the best friends Jews have
Anti-Semitism is no longer the preserve of the Ku Klux Klan
at home are nurtured now on the left, by domestic radicals allied with the usual suspects abroad
Islamic reactionaries and Western intellectuals and progressives who may disagree on every other subject have agreed that Israel and America are the cause of all evil. Israel has fast become the Jew of the world - scorned, scapegoated, demonized and attacked
Some of the enemies she identifies are familiar. Noam Chomsky
Edward Said
The American and European Left have made a marriage in hell with their Islamic terrorist counterparts."
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Whats the problem to be addressed on the forum, attacking the KKK, the left, Islamic reactionaries, Noam Chomsky or Edward Said.
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:27:03 PM PDT
by
SJackson
To: Binyamin
Primarily on this forum. Some posters seem obsessed with posting articles that make most gentiles out to be bigots. I'm getting tired of it and I'm not 100% gentile either. It's starting to get out of hand. Just yesterday, I read on a thread that the USA wants to kill Jews.... what a load of cr*p. Some of the Israel centric posters need to do some serious introspection and root out their own bigotry. Bigotry begets bigotry.
I'm also still waiting for the Pollard supporters to campaign for the release of other traitors. But they won't. Because their support for him mostly stems from what country he helped and his religion. Not what he did. Anyone who supports him needs to have their head examined.
To: Alouette
the excrementitious droolings... LOL! That's a keeper. Peristalsis reversus!
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:28:02 PM PDT
by
Binyamin
To: Binyamin
I can not honestly say that the United States and the overhwlming marjority of the people here have been anything but wonderful to myself and family.
For the record, I do not detect any "increasing" anti-semetism in this country. I will admit to not actively seeking it out, however.
There are now, always have been, and always will be people who do not like other groups of people. That is an inevitable consequence of human freedom and the will to choose. I find that trying to force people to like another group, or ostracizing them because they do not, has never in the history of mankind converted the opinion of one single person. Rather, it more often that not reinforces that person's opinion.
Let them be. Let them like who they wish, and dislike who they wish. Wringing hands over who or who may not like you is a waste of time that could otherwise be better spent.
Just be a good person and do the right thing yourself. It is not our job to judge others.
To: Alouette
"Hint: the excrementitious droolings of the ADL, AJC, RAC, PFAW and other ultra-liberal organization DO NOT REPRESENT THE ENTIRE JEWISH COMMUNITY." Just like the Islamofascists and others don't represent the vast majority of Gentiles... However we keep seeing thread after thread after thread from yonif and others about the various evil Gentiles being bigoted toward Jews. We got the point already.
To: StolarStorm
I don't know of any posters who make gentiles out to be bigots. If I did I would ignore them.
I think the fact that president Bush is driving a policy guaranteed to destroy Israel may complicate perceptions.
As for Pollard, that topic has been debated ad nauseum.
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:35:42 PM PDT
by
Binyamin
To: Stu Cohen
Let's say that I am deficient at what is required.
Take it as you will. I predict you will call me "stupid", claim victory and dance a nice little jig.
Then, I'll know you're really a Democrat.
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:40:09 PM PDT
by
Cyber Liberty
(© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
To: Alouette
Humorously, the Neo-Commies like to portray the ADL as a fanatical Neo-Conservative organization.
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:42:43 PM PDT
by
adam_az
(This space for rent.)
To: StolarStorm
However we keep seeing thread after thread after thread from yonif and others about the various evil Gentiles being bigoted toward Jews. First you said in your previous post that these "topics (of alleged Jewish "racism" against non-Jews) are never addressed in this forum." Now you say we keep seeing thread after thread and you're sick of it.
Make up your mind.
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:43:14 PM PDT
by
Alouette
(Every politician should live next door to a pimp, so he can have someone to look up to.)
To: StolarStorm
"Just yesterday, I read on a thread that the USA wants to kill Jews...."
That's because Bush is coddling Palestinian terrorists, just as much as he adopted the DNC platform as his domestic agenda.
Next!
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:44:23 PM PDT
by
adam_az
(This space for rent.)
To: Cyber Liberty
"Take it as you will. I predict you will call me "stupid", claim victory and dance a nice little jig."
Accusing other people of things without being able to point to specific examples isn't stupid, it's ignorant.
Take that as you will.
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:46:20 PM PDT
by
adam_az
(This space for rent.)
Comment #41 Removed by Moderator
To: Alouette
I was making a very simple point.
To: Alouette
AND inconsistent.
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:47:38 PM PDT
by
adam_az
(This space for rent.)
Comment #44 Removed by Moderator
To: adam_az
Who the eff asked you? You used to be so good at minding your own business, too.
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:49:00 PM PDT
by
Cyber Liberty
(© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
Comment #46 Removed by Moderator
To: adam_az
Fine. In the same vein I could say that "Israel wants to kill Americans" because of their use and support of Pollard ... knowing that intelligence 'leaks' may result in the death of field agents.
To: Cyber Liberty
SHOW ME THE THREADS
You are so offended by "anti-Gentile posts," show me some.
We are still waiting.
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:50:04 PM PDT
by
adam_az
To: StolarStorm
Are you going to bring up the USS Liberty accident too?
Where are the posts?
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posted on
07/28/2003 12:50:44 PM PDT
by
adam_az
To: Cyber Liberty
Let's say that I am deficient at what is required. Okay, but I really don't think anything is "required", do you?
Take it as you will. I predict you will call me "stupid", claim victory and dance a nice little jig.
Have missed a critical aspect of our dialog?
Why would I call you stupid? I have read nothing from you that would suggest such a thing. The fact that we hold differing opinions refelects nothing on intelligence, but merely differing perceptions. There is do victory or defeat in rationale discourse.
As for dancing, neither you nor anyone within my immediate proximity would like to see that. And I don't believe that I have ever done a jig. Lord of the Dance I am not.
Then, I'll know you're really a Democrat.
I can assure you that I am not a Democrat. Then again, neither am I a Republican. I find that neither party adequately addresses the issues that our country faces. When we cast off the shackles of a party line, I believe that we will find better solutions to our challenges.
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